Children giving birth to children in Pakistan!

[Samandri]

There is a reason why pregnancy related deaths are so widespread in this country, marriage at an early age being one of the prime ones. Just because you can do something, doesn't always mean that you should too.

The late pregnancy is also risky (after 35 years). The range is 16-35 yrs, the risk increases for pregnancy below or above this range.
Its the gap between two pregnancies, which shouldnt be small.

 

[Secur]

Bache hi de raheen hain wo bhi Insan ke ALIENS ke tou nai na?
When parents and Qazi including Mian biwi razi phir problem keya

The problem is most of the time, the mian and biwi dont even know what they are Razi for. Lol Marriage isn't so simple as practiced by these people. As I see things happening in Pakistan, its marry early and produce more children than you can afford. Whats with seeing everything, as an attack on country and religion?

Its the gap between two pregnancies, which shouldnt be close.

True. There is an optimal age, however that age isn't less than 16 in an overwhelming majority of the studies.

 

[shaheenmissile]

There is a reason why pregnancy related deaths are so widespread in this country, marriage at an early age being one of the prime ones. Just because you can do something, doesn't always mean that you should too.

Its another thing that marriage can be without producing kids and producing kids can be delayed.

 

[Secur]

@syedali73 @Armstrong @Akheilos @Oscar @Irfan Baloch Can you think of any scenario, in which a 12-15 year old, refuses to go ahead with his parent's choice? That is assuming that he isn't looking for girls in that age by himself. 99.9 % of the times, he wont, in my opinion. He wont go against his elder's will, he's too dependent on them and by virture of that dependency, unable to make an independent choice.

Its another thing that marriage can be without producing kids and producing kids can be delayed.

Marrying early is a must, though? Last time, I checked, you people didn't believe in birth controls and condoms were Jewish, has that changed, my dear?

 

[Armstrong]

@syedali73 @Armstrong @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @

Marrying early is a must, though? Last time, I checked, you people didn't believe in birth controls and condoms were Jewish, has that changed, my dear?

Lo @Oscar key tou khuddd 16 saaal key ummmmer mein apnniii eik cousin in Bihar seh mungniii ho chukiii haiii !

Wait contraceptive are Jewish ?

Hmmmn...makes sense otherwise they'd be more Jews init ?

 

[Secur]

Lo @Oscar key tou khuddd 16 saaal key ummmmer mein apnniii eik cousin in Bihar seh mungniii ho chukiii haiii !

Wait contraceptive are Jewish ?

Hmmmn...makes sense otherwise they'd be more Jews init ?

Indeed, its all a conspiracy to reduce Muslim population in the world. Producing more and more is the goal, God will feed them after all, as he made the promise already. And well, he can raise them and provide them shelter, food and all the other necessities too, even though he didn't promise of that.

 

[VCheng]

Indeed, its all a conspiracy to reduce Muslim population in the world. Producing more and more is the goal, God will feed them after all, as he made the promise already. And well, he can raise them and provide them shelter, food and all the other necessities too, even though he didn't promise of that.

With all the preceding discussion, all I can observe is that the age at marriage is not as important as the ability of the newly married couple to support themselves financially in their own home from their own productivity before they decide to have children. Let that be the determinant.

 

[Secur]

With all the preceding discussion, all I can observe is that the age at marriage is not as important as the ability of the newly married couple to support themselves financially in their own home from their own productivity before they decide to have children. Let that be the determinant.

You say that little boys and girls from rural areas aren't financially independent somehow? There is no determinant here, the whole, subconcious and only basis of this discussion is that the West is conspiring to reduce our population and this article well is an attack on the society and at worse, religion. Read the initial few comments, highly uncalled for, since the article was written by DAWN and not some foreign news agency.

 

[VCheng]

You say that little boys and girls from rural areas aren't financially independent somehow? There is no determinant here, the whole, subconcious and only basis of this discussion is that the West is conspiring to reduce our population and this article well is an attack on the society and at worse, religion. Read the initial few comments, highly uncalled for, since the article was written by DAWN and not some foreign news agency.

All I am saying is that boys and girls should be entitled to marry and reproduce if they can be financially independent from their own work. If that age is younger in rural areas than in cities, what is wrong with it? Let each soceity work this out for its coming generations without judging each other by different standards that may not apply.

 

[Secur]

All I am saying is that boys and girls should be entitled to marry and reproduce if they can be financially independent from their own work. If that age is younger in rural areas than in cities, what is wrong with it? Let each soceity work this out for its coming generations without judging each other by different standards that may not apply.

In an ideal world, yes. They wont bother for the couple's permission, these things aren't the way they seem to you. Seeing how young girls would be exploited using such allowances in any future law as is being done today without it, I cant support it. And this is Pakistan, aren't people found marrying their children early despite there being a law and strict enforcement of it, in a country with which you share "special relationship". Imagine, the outcome here.

With this, I will call it a night.

Two-thirds of the world’s neonatal deaths occur in just 10 countries, mostly in Asia. Pakistan is number three among these countries. With an estimated 298 000 neonatal deaths annually and a reported neonatal mortality rate of 49 per 1000 live births, Pakistan accounts for 7% of global neonatal deaths.1–5 Infection (36%), preterm birth (28%) and birth asphyxia (23%) account for 87% of neonatal deaths worldwide.1,2,6 WHO | Neonatal mortality, risk factors and causes: a prospective population-based cohort study in urban Pakistan

According to Pakistan Demographic and Health Survey 2006-07 and UNICEF, Pakistan has an alarmingly high maternal mortality rate (276 maternal deaths per 100,000 births) with an estimated 20,000 women losing their lives every year due to causes related to pregnancy and childbirth. Just 16 per cent of the poorest women give birth assisted by a skilled attendant. Infant mortality in Pakistan is also among the highest in Asia - second only to Afghanistan.The greatest increase occurred among those with the most need: poor, rural, and young couples. 20,000 die during pregnancy, childbirth every year: Report

Child marriage threatens the health and life of girls.[153][154] Complications from pregnancy and childbirth are the main cause of death among adolescent girls below age 19 in developing countries. Pregnant girls aged 15 to 20 are twice as likely to die in childbirth as those in their 20s, and girls under the age of 15 are five times as likely to die. These consequences are due largely to girls’ physical immaturity where the pelvis and birth canal are not fully developed. Teen pregnancy, particularly below age 15, increases risk of developing obstetric fistula, since their smaller pelvises make them prone to obstructed labor. Fistula leaves its victims with urine or fecal incontinence that causes lifelong complications with infection, pain, and smell.[155] Complications during pregnancy and birth are worsened in poor countries where child marriage is prevalent.[15] -Wiki

“Forty-five % of girls in Mali, 42% in Uganda, and 25% in Ethiopia have given birth by the age of 18. In Western nations, the rates are 1% in Germany, 2% in France, and 10% in the United States. Girls between the ages of 10 and 14 years are 5 to 7 times more likely to die in childbirth; girls between the ages of 15 and 19 years are twice as likely.(13) High death rates are secondary to eclampsia, postpartum hemorrhage, sepsis, HIV infection, malaria, and obstructed labor. Girls aged 10 to 15 years have small pelvises and are not ready for childbearing. Their risk for obstetric fistula is 88%.(14) ” (15) Child Marriage and Child Health - Certificate in Maternal and Child Health - Unite For Sight

WASHINGTON, DC, 11 June 2010 (IRIN) - Despite slow progress in increasing the number of skilled birth attendants, Bangladesh has made enormous reductions in maternal mortality by improving girls' education. The maternal mortality rate (MMR) more than halved in less than a decade, from 724 deaths per 100,000 live births in 1990, to 338 per 100,000 in 2008, according to a recent study published in British medical journal The Lancet. By comparison, the 2008 MMR in India was 254 deaths per 100,000 live births, 47 in Thailand and 7 in Japan. Improving the education of women has been a key factor in bringing down the MMR. In 2001, the Bangladesh government began offering free education for girls up to 12th grade, with additional incentives like food for education. Girls' enrolment in secondary schools jumped from 1.1 million in 1991 to 3.9 million in 2005, according to the UN Children's Fund (UNICEF).

Increased access to education has had huge ramifications in socioeconomic development and maternal mortality. "Girls are going to school, getting a better education, getting jobs and, as a result, delaying marriages - it's as simple as that," said Ishtiaq Mannan, of Save the Children.
IRIN Asia | BANGLADESH: Educating girls lowers maternal death rate | Bangladesh | Gender Issues | Health & Nutrition

Child marriages expose girls to early pregnancy and childbirth, which entail significant risk of damaging health consequences for girls and their children. Afghanistan has one of the highest levels of maternal deaths in the world. The World Health Organization and other UN agencies estimate that at 460 pregnancy-related deaths for every 100,000 births Afghanistan has the second highest level of maternal deaths outside sub- Saharan Africa. The recent Afghanistan Mortality Survey found that of every five Afghan women who died in their reproductive years, two deaths were pregnancy-related. One Afghan woman will die every two hours from pregnancy-related causes and one in every 50 Afghan women will die because of pregnancy. The study also found that adolescent pregnancy and motherhood pose serious health concerns. Child Marriage and Domestic Violence A curse For Afghan Society - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency

 

[AXO4D]

There is a reason why pregnancy related deaths are so widespread in this country, marriage at an early age being one of the prime ones. Just because you can do something, doesn't always mean that you should too.

no its not.prime cause of maternal death are complication of pregnancy like hemorrhage,infection,obstructed labour etc
which can be prevented by booking yourself in antenatal clinic, regular ultrasound, proper heath care to which large portion of our population don't have access to. on the top of that there are many fake degree holders doctors who just fuked up even minor pregnancy complication.
the reason why we have high maternal death is because of limited access to health care.
for example
Maternal mortality ratio ( per 100,000 live births)
pakistan 170
india 190
USA 28
saudi arabia 16

Maternal mortality ratio (modeled estimate, per 100,000 live births) | Data | Table

india have more maternal death ratio that us even tho they have marriage law of 18 years min for female.
saudi dont have min marriage law like you can marry when girl reach puberty. and see the difference of maternal death of saudi and pakistan.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Pappu, welcome to PDF

Why you hate Raul Gandi so much?

 

[AXO4D]

Marrying early is a must, though? Last time, I checked, you people didn't believe in birth controls and condoms were Jewish, has that changed, my dear?

wait condoms are jewish WTH!!!
o well still lot better then having a b@stard child

 

[Secur]

no its not.prime cause of maternal death are complication of pregnancy like hemorrhage,infection,obstructed labour etc
which can be prevented by booking yourself in antenatal clinic, regular ultrasound, proper heath care to which large portion of our population don't have access to. on the top of that there are many fake degree holders doctors who just fuked up even minor pregnancy complication.
the reason why we have high maternal death is because of limited access to health care.
for example
Maternal mortality ratio ( per 100,000 live births)
pakistan 170
india 190
USA 28
saudi arabia 16

Maternal mortality ratio (modeled estimate, per 100,000 live births) | Data | Table

india have more maternal death ratio that us even tho they have marriage law of 18 years min for female.
saudi dont have min marriage law like you can marry when girl reach puberty. and see the difference of maternal death of saudi and pakistan.

Read Post #70.

"Complications of pregnancy and childbirth are the leading cause of death in young women aged 15–19. Young girls who marry later and delay pregnancy beyond their adolescence have more chances to stay healthier, to better their education and build a better life for themselves and their families,” says Flavia Bustreo, M.D., Assistant Director-General for Family, Women’s and Children’s Health at the World Health Organization. "We have the means at our disposal to work together to stop child marriage.” “Child marriage makes girls far more vulnerable to the profound health risks of early pregnancy and childbirth – just as their babies are more vulnerable to complications associated with premature labor,” notes Anthony Lake, Executive Director of UNICEF. WHO | Child marriages: 39 000 every day

Child marriage threatens the health and life of girls.[153][154] Complications from pregnancy and childbirth are the main cause of death among adolescent girls below age 19 in developing countries. Pregnant girls aged 15 to 20 are twice as likely to die in childbirth as those in their 20s, and girls under the age of 15 are five times as likely to die. These consequences are due largely to girls’ physical immaturity where the pelvis and birth canal are not fully developed. Teen pregnancy, particularly below age 15, increases risk of developing obstetric fistula, since their smaller pelvises make them prone to obstructed labor. Fistula leaves its victims with urine or fecal incontinence that causes lifelong complications with infection, pain, and smell.[155] Complications during pregnancy and birth are worsened in poor countries where child marriage is prevalent.[15] -Wiki

wait condoms are jewish WTH!!!
o well still lot better then having a b@stard child

Whats with the paranoia though? Of people having wild desires and going insane just because they aren't married at an early age and left to explore the world to make a life for themselves? Mostly poor and illiterate people in rural areas choose early marriages, effectively ending their children's education, ambitions and future prospect. Why aren't their city counterparts not going wild as someone earlier suggested despite actually doing far too well financially and even then marrying late?

How is 12-13 year old fuking random boys and vice versa is better than a marriage?

Whats with the "Since he's in gutter, I must follow him to gutter too" logic seriously? How's an early age marriage better, by any means despite all the health risks and detrimental effects of people's life binding them to a lifelong set of responsibilities when they should be studying, following their dreams and seeing the world?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Why you hate Raul Gandi so much?

He is my hero yaar