Charlie Hebdo Attack: Pakistan Cleric Holds Funerals for Kouachi Brothers

[syedali73]

They are only exercising their right of "freedom of speech". If Muslim's Prophet (PBUH) could be mocked and held responsible for all ills in the name of "freedom of speech" so could someone say funerary prayers of certain people who were gunned down without any court trials. After all they have only said prayers for the downed folks and not killed someone, not yet.

 

[third eye]

if some one is elected as a PM that does not mean that now he is clean and washed in a washing machine he is still a BLOODY KILLER he massacred Muslims in the GUJRAT ....

What are you ranting about ?

Pakistan had a General who was president in 71 who killed Bengalis.. didnt he ?

He wasnt even elected

 

[Bomber]

What are you ranting about ?

Pakistan had a General who was president in 71 who killed Bengalis.. didnt he ?

He wasnt even elected

that is what you have been told ............The truth is every thing which is done is this region is all because of hindus Terrorists on india ...

 

[third eye]

that is what you have been told ............The truth is every thing which is done is this region is all because of hindus Terrorists on india ...

Whatever sails your boat.

 

[Mutakalim]

Interestingly, the people doing this are barelvis(sufi inspired hanafi sect). They are the most militant when it comes to blasphemy killings. The killer of Salman Taseer belonged to the same sect's dawat-e-islami movement. According to observers, they're trying to lure in more followers from the extremist element by conducting such acts.

The barelvi sect is also highly anti-Taliban and salafi movements, for barelvis accuse them of disespecting the prophet(SAW); which Salafis do indeed. The first militia uprising against Taliban in the Swat valley was by a local Barelvi pir. In Tirah valley, the Barelvi militants hasve actively fought the TTP and Lashkar-e-Islam. A Barelvi militant organization, Sunni Tehreek, holds a small turf in Karachi, and has assassinated a number of Taliban supporters and clerics there.

And we are proud of it

 

[Gunsnroses]

"If we draw cartoon of prophet and you will
get violent then we will also get violent if you burn our American flag"

Sorry sir,but your logic is not compatible. Flag vs flag,religion vs religion would be more appropriate. You are actually justifying Charlie's attempt to emotionally hurt Muslims.I call it emotional terrorism and charlie was emotional terrorist.What was done in return was also bad.
What are we humans?all of us-including me and you,animals?
What do we understand by term "freedom of expression" and what is the definition of limitations,concentration, quantitity?
Alright, what happens when you take excess amount of pain killer or sleeping pills?You either die or began to suffer of extreme muscular pain due to chemicals etc.
Okay,consider another example: ever heard of LD50?Yes you have!
I remember my stats teacher's lecture.While he was lecturing us bio-assay. He said:" A medicine can be considered as another type of poison.We never claim to eliminate 100% disease and the tablets taken by you kills only 50-60% or (depends) bacteria. Rest are weakened and killed by immune system."
He further added:
"If we increase it to 100% then medicine will kill to our RBCs and other important constituents as well."
Hence,freedom of speech is like a medicine. It has limitations and rules. See,when you write for a newspaper, they will reject your blog if you have used inappropriate terms such as Bangali,third world instead of Bengladeshi and underdeveloped.
By throwing insults over respected ambassador of god whether essa (A.S) whom you call Jesus or Muhammed (S.A.W) will not make charlie a better person but an idiot who misused his pen and authority.His medicine had become a poison and many suffered of this including me.I can't believe that a sane poster like you who is capable of handling trolls would sound like this.
Regards

If I had the opportunity to "thank" you, I would have done it many times. But I thank you here for a very "easy to understand" message for unbiased, non provocative and rational minds.

Just to add one cannot mixup east and west like he and some other are trying to do. If somebody in US burns a poster of Jinnah, though we would be hurt but the act isn't comparable to burning Quran or Bible. Saying flag is equal to religious dignities is an utterly absurd and illogical comparison. Keep religion away as they always say, and instead burn Pakistani flag or any other of choice, burn posters of Nawaz Shareef, make cartoons of him of any sort but NOT make fun of religious figures. This includes any religion whether Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism etc. Freedom of expression along with freedom in journalism should also exercise ethical values otherwise I will start expressing my joy of passing job interview at midnight in front of my neighbour's door.

 

[Slav Defence]

If I had the opportunity to "thank" you, I would have done it many times. But I thank you here for a very "easy to understand" message for unbiased, non provocative and rational minds.

Just to add one cannot mixup east and west like he and some other are trying to do. If somebody in US burns a poster of Jinnah, though we would be hurt but the act isn't comparable to burning Quran or Bible. Saying flag is equal to religious dignities is utterly absurd and illogical comparison. Keep religion away as they always say, and instead burn Pakistani flag or any other of choice, burn posters of Nawaz Shareef, make cartoons of him of any sort but NOT make fun of religious figures. This includes any religion whether Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism etc. Freedom of expression along with freedom in journalism should also exercise ethical values otherwise I will start expressing my joy of passing job interview at midnight in front of my neighbour's door.

Sir,
I thankyou for your sane response. We need posters like you who talk with logic and sense. It is so tragic to see people acting like retards.
Regards

 

[Gunsnroses]

Sir,
I thankyou for your sane response. We need posters like you who talk with logic and sense. It is so tragic to see people acting like retards.
Regards

Always learning from people like you Sir.
Best.

 

[gambit]

Flag vs flag,religion vs religion would be more appropriate.

No. It is not. An atheist have no religion, so does that mean you can insult him and expect nothing in return ? For someone who is supposed to be in the 'Think Tank', I see very little thinking here.

I agree to the bold part. But you also have to accept the fact that the depiction was solely for the purpose of ill intention to instigate low caliber mobs only for financial gain. Thats criminal as well.

In order for an act to be 'criminal' there has to be a law. As for your purported 'fact', that is no fact but pure conjecture on your part.

 

[Slav Defence]

No. It is not. An atheist have no religion, so does that mean you can insult him and expect nothing in return ? For someone who is supposed to be in the 'Think Tank', I see very little thinking here.

Sir,
You are attacking my title without even understanding my logic and context.
You totally misunderstood. When on earth did I stated that you must attack an atheist. Infact I strongly believe that an atheist is like an orphan child and he needs more care.
Let me make this very clear to you that attacking over anyone's religion or feelings is wrong regardless of country. I condemn Charlie as much as I condemn burning american flag.
You have personally attacked my title and it is really shocking for me-you must realize how rude your tone is.
Regards

 

[Pakistani shaheens]

When they hurt our feelings........its called "Freedom of Speech"
But when we do the same...........its called "terrorism"
What a hypocrisy!

 

[Echo_419]

u hindus mind yr own business.......

How do you know if he is a Hindu,he could be a Muslim or a Sikh too

 

[gambit]

Sir,
You are attacking my title without even understanding my logic and context.
You totally misunderstood. When on earth did I stated that you must attack an atheist. Infact I strongly believe that an atheist is like an orphan child and he needs more care.
Let me make this very clear to you that attacking over anyone's religion or feelings is wrong regardless of country. I condemn Charlie as much as I condemn burning american flag.
You have personally attacked my title and it is really shocking for me-you must realize how rude your tone is.
Regards

You are a 'Think Tank' member. So THINK.

If you want to insult an atheist, certainly religion is out, correct ? So if you want to insult an atheist, you would insult his family, his method of birth, his country of allegiance, how ugly he is, how fat he is, and so on.

But what would you get in return ? If he knows you are a Muslim, he would insult your Prophet. He is not going to think that since you insult his wife, he must insult your wife. This is the absurd line of your argument: 'Flag vs flag,religion vs religion'.

Nobody is going to be that stupid. If I am in a war, if I shot an enemy soldier in the leg, he is not going to shoot me in the leg but he will try to shoot me in the head or chest in order to assure a kill. Likewise, if an atheist is going to insult you, he is going to insult a religionist at the most emotionally significant item available: religion.

'Flag vs flag,religion vs religion' => that is a stupid argument for someone who is supposed to be in a 'Think Tank'.

 

[Slav Defence]

You are a 'Think Tank' member. So THINK.

If you want to insult an atheist, certainly religion is out, correct ? So if you want to insult an atheist, you would insult his family, his method of birth, his country of allegiance, how ugly he is, how fat he is, and so on.

But what would you get in return ? If he knows you are a Muslim, he would insult your Prophet. He is not going to think that since you insult his wife, he must insult your wife. This is the absurd line of your argument: 'Flag vs flag,religion vs religion'.

Nobody is going to be that stupid. If I am in a war, if I shot an enemy soldier in the leg, he is not going to shoot me in the leg but he will try to shoot me in the head or chest in order to assure a kill. Likewise, if an atheist is going to insult you, he is going to insult a religionist at the most emotionally significant item available: religion.

'Flag vs flag,religion vs religion' => that is a stupid argument for someone who is supposed to be in a 'Think Tank'.

See,
That is your interpretation of my statement and you are twisting my statement. I responded to your sentence in which you were comparing mocking Rasool Allah(S.A.W) and Jesus to that of mocking American flag and my context behind such statement is crystal clear in next two lines of my post:
"SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN PATRIOTIC AND SOME ARE MORE PATRIOTIC THEN RELIGIOUS" (you fall in second category my dear!)
I simply intended to say that you are comparing Charlie's religious abuse to that of abusing a country or being fat and your comparison is wrong because some are more patriotic and less religious and vice versa.A man who is religious will never abuse others religion and so on..
But you misinterpreted and took only these two lines out of long post and ignored all rest words thus attacking me and you are still attacking me.But I will not because I understand that you have totally taken my discussion and my response in wrong context.
See you have served in military and you said that if you will shot somebody's leg then he will try to shoot your head.
I know original meaning behind your post but if I think like you then I could have misinterpreted it applied this logic that:
Charlie has hit many people's heart and if some terrorists have shot these innocent people then what is the big deal.?doesn't it suits your logic? So much of professional(disadvantage of cherry picking,lol)

But I will not.Instead I come to make real interpretation of your entire post that since an atheists have no religion therefore he is only affected by flag abuse-mind you that athesium is itself a religion because not believing is also believing of having nothing my dear gambit!
So,why a man of religion needs to attack on atheist country or personality in first place when he is fully aware that atheistic belief is itself a religion.
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Instead of debating over this nonsense why don't we agree that mocking anyone's faith or country is disgusting, hmmm?
Regards

 

[pak-marine]

no one gives a flying fck about those killers here is what i read quoted from opening thread.

The ceremony was delayed by about an hour and attended by only around 40 people despite many entreaties via loudspeaker.