Changing times: Ijtihad and other questions Muslims must revisit

[AXO4D]

can you quote saheeh hadith in which omer aur ayesha said they them self did naskh without the premission of prophet..
or any other hadith in which prophet gave permission to ummah to do naskh on their on..
the hadith you qouted is about naskh that took place during the time of prophet. naskh stop after the death of prophet... like allah said in quran
None of our revelations do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but we substitute
something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?”

[Al-Qur’an 2:106]
thus it is allah who do naskh through massenger and it cant be done by any other person...
do you know that their is fatwa by all school of thought that who ever belief that quran is distorted and this in not the quran left for us by the prophet is a kafir...
as allah himself said about quran.
Allah says: "We have without doubt, sent down the message and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption.)" (15:9)

ok i some how missed a word "IS" accidentally which changes it meaning some what i didnt know either you understood it like i intended or not. but never the less mistake corrected.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

And in the same breath those hybrids blame you guys when will the blame game end? How are you different from them when you are doing the exact same thing as them?
Not sure what that is

No. You misunderstood me.
Indians have no problem with this -

'Hybrid's don't create problems. The 'purists' do that.

 

[Jf Thunder]

In other words prostitution is allowed.

thats why it was banned

Ist only. 4 allowed at a time. Some sources say he had 13 wives and 1 concubine he slaved from another tribe. And the story of marrying zaynab his cousin is interesting as well. Anyways you surely is following true religion. May Allah bless u same honour he blessed prophets wives with. I hope Isis wil come knocking in Pakistan soon

dude four were allowed after he had married all his wives, after which Allah, forbade him either to divorce any of them, and neither he could marry more, the slave girl you are talking about is most probably Hazrat Maria (R.A) he set her free, she converted to Islam and then married her, she was most probably a princess.........
now in case of Muslims, you are allowed to have 4 wives, but are told by Allah (SWT) o marry only one as it will be better for you, and also that you should not marry young widow girls, instead support them and adopt them, get it?
and yes just like you said Islam is the true religion, and as for ISIS, Pakistan will be safe from these sh** people, and why dont you go join them?

 

[Black Mamba1]

It’s unimaginable for a man to suddenly turn lustful at this age, especially as he was constantly traveling, with bloodthirsty enemies on his heels.

Hi , I do not have anything to say about multiple marriages of prophet. It is childish and insensitive to judge events that happened on 1400 years back on the basis of today's concept of morality and social order.

But your concept of men's behavioural pattern is wrong. common . Truly speaking , you will find men (not all) become pervert after 40 only. there are many psychological reason for that.

On the other hand you will find people who are militia and moving around ( eg Naxalites or Taliban or ISIS) are found to be indulged in perverted work.

( this comment is related to common people like us and not extraordinary person like the Prophet)

 

[Jf Thunder]

Hi , I do not have anything to say about multiple marriages of prophet. It is childish and insensitive to judge events that happened on 1400 years back on the basis of today's concept of morality and social order.
But your concept of men's behavioural pattern is wrong. common . Truly speaking , you will find men (not all) become pervert after 40 only. there are many psychological reason for that.
On the other hand you will find people who are militia and moving around ( eg Naxalites or Taliban or ISIS) are found to be indulged in perverted work.
( this comment is related to common people like us and not extraordinary person like the Prophet)

well people who turn pervy after 40 and people of the ISIS and TTP are rare, real rare, you can find them in KSA and Iran (no offense intended) because there are too damn restrictions there, i always say "if you take one thing to an extreme, the other extreme will be produced itself" so its better to stay in between

 

[Zarvan]

Ist only. 4 allowed at a time. Some sources say he had 13 wives and 1 concubine he slaved from another tribe. And the story of marrying zaynab his cousin is interesting as well. Anyways you surely is following true religion. May Allah bless u same honour he blessed prophets wives with. I hope Isis wil come knocking in Pakistan soon

Dumbo PROPHET SAW had few exceptions he was allowed by ALLAH to marry more than 4 and that is mainly political decision and for that you have to understand Arab society in that society if you are some tribes relative they would listen to you and protect you other wise he remained married to first wife who was older than her for 25 years and HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW had to do more things than normal Muslims for him there was 6 compulsory prayers he fasted and didn't opened fast for many days buy follower off ignorance like you never understands @Jf Thunder

 

[Jf Thunder]

Dumbo PROPHET SAW had few exceptions he was allowed by ALLAH to marry more than 4 and that is mainly political decision and for that you have to understand Arab society in that society if you are some tribes relative they would listen to you and protect you other wise he remained married to first wife who was older than her for 25 years and HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW had to do more things than normal Muslims for him there was 6 compulsory prayers he fasted and didn't opened fast for many days buy follower off ignorance like you never understands @Jf Thunder

dude use punctuation marks a bit, now might i ask why was i tagged before i get caught in some misconception.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Islam is a balanced religion; there is neither radicalism nor liberalism in Islam. But there are two groups of (Gumraah)people; one is leading Islam towards radicalism and the other is taking it towards liberalism.

As for the thread title, Ijtihad is present today. Muftis are today's world's Mujtahids; although they get guidance from one of the four great Mujtahids (Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafai and Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal)

 

[Zarvan]

dude use punctuation marks a bit, now might i ask why was i tagged before i get caught in some misconception.

That man was in debate with you that is why I tagged you

 

[Jf Thunder]

That man was in debate with you that is why I tagged you

oh i thought you were calling me an ignorant like him lollllzzzz :p

 

[Zarvan]

oh i thought you were calling me an ignorant like him lollllzzzz :p

No not you him

 

[Jf Thunder]

No not you him

does this mean i am on the "Siraat E Mustaqeem" ?

 

[Norwegian]

@Norwegian
You chose a wrong platform bro. I only read first page and knew where topic was heading to. Please find someone knowledgeable on this subject and discuss your queries with him. There is nothing wrong clarifying confusions.

I won't be going to any ulema based Islamist forum for ijtihad if that's what you want! I hate these dumb braindead ulema who have produced nothing but misery for the 1.6 billion human beings called Muslims for the past 1000 years. I do not expect any kind of ijtihad, reformation of Islam from those lunatics and morons who are only educated from creepy madrassas, and therefore know nothing about real world issues.

 

[Gunsnroses]

Bibi


Bibi u show urself as pious lady then loose ur temper n call me idiot when I just said May Allah bless u same fate he blessed prophets wives with. Tell me what's wrong in it don't u strive for that. Regarding Isis there are many formers in this forum itself who consider them model Muslims. There are many contradictions in what u believe. Refrain frm calling names

Bhai, every Prophet was allowed to have as many wives as required by the political scenario of his time, to reconcile religious harmony between nation, and to make exemplary models for good. Comparing other Prophets, Prophet SAW had very few. If you read Bible, you will find Sulaiman AS had a harem, authenticity of which is in question, but no body ever objected to that if that is true. Not even Christians! Same goes for many other Biblic Prophets. This might be true, but we are not after it as its up to Allah who allows.

There is nothing wrong in asking. Do ask and what I do before seeking something is put "adab" (respect) foremost for a better understanding.

 

[syedali73]

Ist only. 4 allowed at a time. Some sources say he had 13 wives and 1 concubine he slaved from another tribe. And the story of marrying zaynab his cousin is interesting as well. Anyways you surely is following true religion. May Allah bless u same honour he blessed prophets wives with. I hope Isis wil come knocking in Pakistan soon

@Akheilos That is why I never like to engage in debate (particularly religious) with these people. You did not have to answer him in the first place and had totally ignored him. Please get to recognize posters genuinely interested in learning and those who are baiting to sling mud on your religion. I have enough knowledge of ancient Hindu texts and I can tell them which Hindu god married how many and had how many concubines but would refrain from doing it until pushed against the wall.