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In many ways, Lou Jing is a typical young woman from Shanghai. Pretty and confident, she speaks Mandarin heavily accented with the lilting tones of the Shanghai dialect and browses the malls of this huge city for the latest fashions.

But there is one thing that distinguishes this 20-year-old from her peers, something that has made her the unwitting focus of an intense public debate about what exactly it means to be Chinese: the color of her skin. Born to a Chinese mother and an African-American father whom she has never met, the theater student rocketed into the public consciousness last month when she took part in an American Idol–esque TV show, Go! Oriental Angel.

The marketing gurus for the series could hardly have dreamed of a better promotional gimmick when they started to investigate the backgrounds of the dozens of pop-star wannabes to root out the competitors' mushy stories of triumph over adversity that are a well-worn staple of the genre. Here was a tale guaranteed to attract eyeballs: a girl of mixed race, brought up by a single Chinese mother, struggling to gain acceptance in a deeply conservative, some would say racist, society.

The strategy worked — perhaps too well. In August, Lou's appearance on the show not only boosted viewer numbers but also sparked an intense nationwide debate about the essential meaning of being Chinese. Over the past month on Internet chat rooms, where modern China's sensitive issues are thrashed out by netizens long before they reach the heavily censored mainstream media, Lou's ethnicity has been the subject of a relentless barrage of criticism, some of it crudely racist. Many think she should not have been allowed to compete on a Chinese show, or at least not selected to represent Shanghai in the national competition. She doesn't have fair skin, which is one of the most important factors for Chinese beauty. What's more, her mother and her biological father were never married; morally, the argument goes, this kind of behavior shouldn't be publicized, so she shouldn't have been put on TV as a young "idol."

These kinds of posts on the most popular chat rooms have attracted thousands of comments. A few have been supportive of Lou, but the rest range from expressions of fear and ignorance to outright racism. One of the most popular posts about Lou Jing on the KDS Life forum asked in mock seriousness, "Is it possible that she is Obama's daughter?" Another poster said, "I can't believe she's so shameless that she would go on TV." Most of the critics are agreed on one point: that this black woman cannot be regarded as a "real" Chinese.

As recently as the 1970s, foreigners were largely barred from living in China, let alone marrying a local. China does not easily accept mixed-race children as true-blooded Chinese: as soon as a child is born, the parents are required to register with the authorities as to which of the 56 government-approved ethnic groups their child belongs; there are no mixed-race categories. Lou feels she is very much Chinese. "When I meet somebody for the first time, they'd often ask me how I can speak Chinese so well, and I tell them, 'Because I'm a Chinese — of course I can speak my mother tongue well,' " Lou says defiantly. "I don't like to be treated differently."

As China undergoes an astonishing demographic shift and more foreigners make their homes in the Middle Kingdom, Lou is by no means the only one being treated differently. Recent decades have seen a surge in the number of mixed-race couples. According to the data offered by Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau, from 1994 to 2008, each year there have been about 3,000 more mixed-race marriages in Shanghai. But as the children of that first generation of mixed-race marriages come of age, their moves to gain acceptance in society — like Lou's participation in the TV show — have exposed a deep-running vein of xenophobia in Chinese society. Last year, Ding Hui, a young man of African-Chinese ethnicity, caused a stir when he was called up to the national volleyball team, prompting much soul-searching about whether the athlete should be allowed to represent China alongside pure-blooded Chinese competitors. Eventually, Ding Hui did go on to play for the national team.

"As China continues to open up, this kind of phenomenon will become ever more prevalent," says David Zweig, a professor of humanities and social sciences at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. "This is part of the process of internationalization, but we can only hope that Chinese people, including netizens and the people whose views tend towards extremism, can come to accept that there are many mixed-race people, both in China and worldwide."

As for Lou, she found the whole experience more than a little disturbing. She did well in the show, ranking in the top 30 contestants before she was eliminated. Now she's back to her normal life as a college junior — with a little new insight into her home. "Through this competition, it's really scary to find out how the color of my skin can cause such a big controversy."

Could a Mixed-Race Contestant Become a Chinese Idol? - TIME
 
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In many ways, Lou Jing is a typical young woman from Shanghai. Pretty and confident, she speaks Mandarin heavily accented with the lilting tones of the Shanghai dialect and browses the malls of this huge city for the latest fashions.

But there is one thing that distinguishes this 20-year-old from her peers, something that has made her the unwitting focus of an intense public debate about what exactly it means to be Chinese: the color of her skin. Born to a Chinese mother and an African-American father whom she has never met, the theater student rocketed into the public consciousness last month when she took part in an American Idol–esque TV show, Go! Oriental Angel.

The marketing gurus for the series could hardly have dreamed of a better promotional gimmick when they started to investigate the backgrounds of the dozens of pop-star wannabes to root out the competitors' mushy stories of triumph over adversity that are a well-worn staple of the genre. Here was a tale guaranteed to attract eyeballs: a girl of mixed race, brought up by a single Chinese mother, struggling to gain acceptance in a deeply conservative, some would say racist, society.

The strategy worked — perhaps too well. In August, Lou's appearance on the show not only boosted viewer numbers but also sparked an intense nationwide debate about the essential meaning of being Chinese. Over the past month on Internet chat rooms, where modern China's sensitive issues are thrashed out by netizens long before they reach the heavily censored mainstream media, Lou's ethnicity has been the subject of a relentless barrage of criticism, some of it crudely racist. Many think she should not have been allowed to compete on a Chinese show, or at least not selected to represent Shanghai in the national competition. She doesn't have fair skin, which is one of the most important factors for Chinese beauty. What's more, her mother and her biological father were never married; morally, the argument goes, this kind of behavior shouldn't be publicized, so she shouldn't have been put on TV as a young "idol."

These kinds of posts on the most popular chat rooms have attracted thousands of comments. A few have been supportive of Lou, but the rest range from expressions of fear and ignorance to outright racism. One of the most popular posts about Lou Jing on the KDS Life forum asked in mock seriousness, "Is it possible that she is Obama's daughter?" Another poster said, "I can't believe she's so shameless that she would go on TV." Most of the critics are agreed on one point: that this black woman cannot be regarded as a "real" Chinese.

As recently as the 1970s, foreigners were largely barred from living in China, let alone marrying a local. China does not easily accept mixed-race children as true-blooded Chinese: as soon as a child is born, the parents are required to register with the authorities as to which of the 56 government-approved ethnic groups their child belongs; there are no mixed-race categories. Lou feels she is very much Chinese. "When I meet somebody for the first time, they'd often ask me how I can speak Chinese so well, and I tell them, 'Because I'm a Chinese — of course I can speak my mother tongue well,' " Lou says defiantly. "I don't like to be treated differently."

As China undergoes an astonishing demographic shift and more foreigners make their homes in the Middle Kingdom, Lou is by no means the only one being treated differently. Recent decades have seen a surge in the number of mixed-race couples. According to the data offered by Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau, from 1994 to 2008, each year there have been about 3,000 more mixed-race marriages in Shanghai. But as the children of that first generation of mixed-race marriages come of age, their moves to gain acceptance in society — like Lou's participation in the TV show — have exposed a deep-running vein of xenophobia in Chinese society. Last year, Ding Hui, a young man of African-Chinese ethnicity, caused a stir when he was called up to the national volleyball team, prompting much soul-searching about whether the athlete should be allowed to represent China alongside pure-blooded Chinese competitors. Eventually, Ding Hui did go on to play for the national team.

"As China continues to open up, this kind of phenomenon will become ever more prevalent," says David Zweig, a professor of humanities and social sciences at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. "This is part of the process of internationalization, but we can only hope that Chinese people, including netizens and the people whose views tend towards extremism, can come to accept that there are many mixed-race people, both in China and worldwide."

As for Lou, she found the whole experience more than a little disturbing. She did well in the show, ranking in the top 30 contestants before she was eliminated. Now she's back to her normal life as a college junior — with a little new insight into her home. "Through this competition, it's really scary to find out how the color of my skin can cause such a big controversy."

Could a Mixed-Race Contestant Become a Chinese Idol? - TIME

Ah, Racist Jewish "TIME" magazine calling others 'racist'.....

On a related note, unwedded pregnancy is common everywhere. Now back on topic, yes there are many, MANY cases of Chinese marrying foreigners (perhaps Chinese-Foreign marriage is the highest in the world). You can see Chinese and non-Chinese couples in North America, China, Europe, everywhere.

There's no other culture that is more OPEN to mixed marriages than Chinese, as no other culture is as open to it. Lou's case was when the African-American father just fvcks around and doesn't take responsibility -- and this is frowned upon is ALL SOCIETIES. If you've ever visited China you would see so many mixed couples.

A pathetic attempt to paint a society as "Xenophobic" which has open up its heart and homes to foreigners. Do you see the same openness in Europe? NO. America? NO. Africa? NO. etc etc. :smitten:

My advice is to open your own eyes and see for yourself. Israeli laws actually forbid a Jew to marry a non-Jew..... :angel:
 
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Zionist-media "TIME", here's a question for you:

If China was so 'xenophobic' then why the hell is it so open for foreigners to come?

If China was so 'xenophobic' then why the hell are they so many mixed-marriages?

Sure there are preferences, just as Whites look down on non-White Males. Indians on non-Indians. Heck, even in Africans look down on non-Africans. Conversely, do you see any other society as open-minded as Chinese? NO.




Suggest you guys follow the "John and Kate plus 8"......
 
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Zionist-media "TIME", here's a question for you:

If China was so 'xenophobic' then why the hell is it so open for foreigners to come?

If China was so 'xenophobic' then why the hell are they so many mixed-marriages?

Sure there are preferences, just as Whites look down on non-White Males. Indians on non-Indians. Heck, even in Africans look down on non-Africans. Conversely, do you see any other society as open-minded as Chinese? NO.

Suggest you guys follow the "John and Kate plus 8"......


I'm not so sure about that, I have a lot of Chinese friends, mostly northerners but a couple from the south, and from what I can tell, Chinese society is as conservative, if not more than Indian society. Eastern/Middle Eastern societies have always been conservative.

I'd have to say that American society is by far the most diverse and open minded. No one else comes close.
 
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I'm not so sure about that, I have a lot of Chinese friends, mostly northerners but a couple from the south, and from what I can tell, Chinese society is as conservative, if not more than Indian society. Eastern/Middle Eastern societies have always been conservative.

I'd have to say that American society is by far the most diverse and open minded. No one else comes close.

Indian society is MUCH more conservative, they even consider "Mongoloids" to be "Inferior". :rofl:

America is diverse, and it's only selectively open-minded. Here's some facts:

- It's "okay" for a White man to "mate" with a Chinese women, but it's frowned upon when an Asian man has the "audacity" to mate with a White woman.

- True that SOME whites are open-minded with marriage to a Blacks, but when a White woman chooses a Black man, a lot of white men get uneasy.

In Chinese culture it is preferred (but NOT forced upon) to marry Chinese, but they are VERY OPEN-MINDED when marrying outside one's ethnicity --- that is why you see so MANY & MANY & MANY mixed-Chinese couples. Most Whites also "prefer" their children to marry within their ethnic-cultural group. And you shouldn't be surprised to discover that Africans have the same tendency, they even discriminate from other African tribes. There's a big difference in "preference" and "xenophobia" to outright "racism". Learn the difference.

In USA and Canada (two places I've spent considerable time in), one can see many Chinese/non-Chinse mixed couples. Contrast that with Indian/non-Indian couples.... not many. :woot: I've been to India and China, as well as many other countries with large Indian & Chinese populations, and it is the same story.

From a parent's point-of-view, from all ethnicities, they don't want their daughter to screw around before marriage. Especially getting pregnant where the "father" disappears from his responsibility. That's not unique to any culture. I don't want to see my daughter go through this trauma and stress. It doesn't matter if you are African, or European, or Arabic, or Native, or Indian, or Asian -- promiscuity is something that people enjoy, YET they don't want to take responsibility for (nor do they want it to happen to their children).
 
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Agree with some of SIF's comments. I read some of the blogs myself. Do I trust TIME's over-the-top tabloid sensationalism or do I trust my own eyes?

There is no doubt blogs are the places where ordinary Chinese vent/release their otherwise repressed emotions - so every other person is a "SB". There is some naked racism, too.

Even the racism is more tinged with insecurity, rather than infected with the kind of quasi-"informed" superiority complex - if you know what I mean. You probably experiences a bit of that in the former Commie lands of Eastern Europe.

But Chinese are much more reserved about it in real life.

And SIF, everything does not point back at the Zionists. Are you Iranian/Persian or Arabic by any chance? Cut out the crap.
 
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in my first hand experience, my parents(50 somethings today) have said to me they don't care who i married but prefer it if she can communicate with them. i told them i'll think about it lol.
 
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Indian society is MUCH more conservative, they even consider "Mongoloids" to be "Inferior". :rofl:

America is diverse, and it's only selectively open-minded. Here's some facts:

- It's "okay" for a White man to "mate" with a Chinese women, but it's frowned upon when an Asian man has the "audacity" to mate with a White woman.

- True that SOME whites are open-minded with marriage to a Blacks, but when a White woman chooses a Black man, a lot of white men get uneasy.

In Chinese culture it is preferred (but NOT forced upon) to marry Chinese, but they are VERY OPEN-MINDED when marrying outside one's ethnicity --- that is why you see so MANY & MANY & MANY mixed-Chinese couples. Most Whites also "prefer" their children to marry within their ethnic-cultural group. And you shouldn't be surprised to discover that Africans have the same tendency, they even discriminate from other African tribes. There's a big difference in "preference" and "xenophobia" to outright "racism". Learn the difference.

In USA and Canada (two places I've spent considerable time in), one can see many Chinese/non-Chinse mixed couples. Contrast that with Indian/non-Indian couples.... not many. :woot: I've been to India and China, as well as many other countries with large Indian & Chinese populations, and it is the same story.

From a parent's point-of-view, from all ethnicities, they don't want their daughter to screw around before marriage. Especially getting pregnant where the "father" disappears from his responsibility. That's not unique to any culture. I don't want to see my daughter go through this trauma and stress. It doesn't matter if you are African, or European, or Arabic, or Native, or Indian, or Asian -- promiscuity is something that people enjoy, YET they don't want to take responsibility for (nor do they want it to happen to their children).

Please...China has a more open culture than the US?...is this some joke?the US has the most open and free society in the history of the world.Take this from an American who is from a minority Indian community.I could never get the opportunities I got in this country any where else in the world.And all your views about inter race marriage in the US are all wrong. Almost my entire extended family is in the US.Among all my cousins (first generation like me) about 75% have white spouses(both husbands and wives) so much for Indians only marrying in the community.It is not just a Indian trait,first generation Americans of all communities Indian,Chinese,Japanese etc marry outside their race all the time.
 
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Please...China has a more open culture than the US?...is this some joke?the US has the most open and free society in the history of the world.Take this from an American who is from a minority Indian community.I could never get the opportunities I got in this country any where else in the world.And all your views about inter race marriage in the US are all wrong. Almost my entire extended family is in the US.Among all my cousins (first generation like me) about 75% have white spouses(both husbands and wives) so much for Indians only marrying in the community.It is not just a Indian trait,first generation Americans of all communities Indian,Chinese,Japanese etc marry outside their race all the time.

We know what you mean - and many of us are thankful for our opportunities in this land and may in fact share the kind of "mixed" life you have observed.

I agree that China is by no means any more "open-minded" than most of the US "blue states" or coastal areas. But I still wouldn't take a TIMES article as being indicative of anything, except for their agenda.

And I also concur that Indians in NA these days are increasingly "open-minded", too.

By and large, South Asians are still a conservative community, which by itself really isn't a negative, but bespeaks its "surviving" power and cultural cohesiveness. Having lived next to "Bramladesh" for a good few years - among many other things, I have made my own observations ...

Anyways, getting someone to go to bed with you, or "better" (or worse) yet, to marry you, is perhaps a reflection of , but not really tantamount to "tolerance". Sooner or later, you will meet women who talk about "her habibi" left and right, but then curse the Arabs in ways that make Bibi blush. Similarly, just because a man has an insatiable oriental fetish, it does not make him free of prejudice.

Sometimes the exact opposite is true.

Moreover, mere intermarriage itself may simply lead to "colourism". And colourism may lead to casteism.

The Brazilian "experiment" seems to lend some credence to this ...
 
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