CAG blames Army for delay in Arjun tanks’ induction

[TheFlyingPretzel]

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Lol....!!!

Lol
A Comparative trials was done between Arjun and T 90 where T 90 was almost outclassed by Arjun.
According to Israel in quality Arjun is a Ferrai among the Tanks .

I'm just going to leave this here.

 

[kaku1]

whats to LOL?

AL khalid has all the latest gadgets (IBMS, APS, Night fighting capability, survivability through better composite armor, misc items like auto loader, ATGM firing capability, etc ). Last laugh would be on you in battle field

Yaar, atleast Think Tank hone ka to khyal kar liya karo.

Overestimation and overconfidence is bad for health. BTW, in 2010 Arjun passed its comparative trials.

I'm just going to leave this here.

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I guarantee you, if Al-Khalid showed its trials to IA, in first hand IA and MoD rejected that.

 

[Bratva]

Yaar, atleast Think Tank hone ka to khyal kar liya karo.

Overestimation and overconfidence is bad for health. BTW, in 2010 Arjun passed its comparative trials.



I guarantee you, if Al-Khalid showed its trials to IA, in first hand IA and MoD rejected that.

There is a reason, I'm a TTA and you are not. Instead of wasting your reply, atleast bother to do some search on latest Al Khalid specs and associated pics with all such features. Good place to look at HIT website and IDEAS 2014 thread.

Being ignorant is one thing but being absolute on your statement is just plain stupid

and I would pass over your comment about giving guarantee. It is akin to Political parties promising or giving guarantees on bringing back black money to home but once they are in the loop, "Muh ki khani par jati hai"

 

[kaku1]

There is a reason, I'm a TTA and you are not. Instead of wasting your reply, atleast bother to do some search on latest Al Khalid specs and associated pics with all such features. Good place to look at HIT website and IDEAS 2014 thread.

Being ignorant is one thing but being absolute on your statement is just plain stupid

and I would pass over your comment about giving guarantee. It is akin to Political parties promising or giving guarantees on bringing back black money to home but once they are in the loop, "Muh ki khani par jati hai"

At least wasting time, you should read about the Arjun Mk.1, Mk.1A and Mk.2. If you think then thats going to be a cake walk, after that all the armored regiments going to deploy LCH for air-cover then bro I think you living in some fairy land.

Be in reality, I am not saying destroying Al-Khalid going to be a cake walk, but sorry Arjun too not going to be a cakewalk. Be live in reality.

 

[holysaturn]

For all the pakistani members who talk about Al Khalid CVRDE doesnt consider Al Khalid a pakistani tank at all they denote it as MBT-2000. I have also asked their opinion about MBT-3000(whihc is obviously AK-2 lol,so much for technology absorption), they say its mobility is very good but that there is no need to lose sleep over it.

Pakistan they said is doing with AK what OFB is doing with the T-90. Licensing with no "know why" except with imported engines and some other stuff. Neither OFB nor HIT has the capability or the wherewithal to improve the platfroms significantly without the OEM's help. There is even a Russian Hostel(with deputed russian experts) in HVF colony,chennai to assist them from the t-72 days.
So I dont think HIT which has just started with licensing tanks would have gone that far considering bothe are public run enterprises.

 

[Bratva]

At least wasting time, you should read about the Arjun Mk.1, Mk.1A and Mk.2. If you think then thats going to be a cake walk, after that all the armored regiments going to deploy LCH for air-cover then bro I think you living in some fairy land.

Be in reality, I am not saying destroying Al-Khalid going to be a cake walk, but sorry Arjun too not going to be a cakewalk. Be live in reality.

Why are you assuming things which I haven't said or implied ? There is a reason net-centric capability is being deployed in armored regiments of Pakistan army to counter increasing IA armored might.

You and Inrockstar was Lol'ing and implying IA would reject Al Khalid straight away, Like I said, If you hold on to that thought, last laugh would be on you

For all the pakistani members who talk about Al Khalid CVRDE doesnt consider Al Khalid a pakistani tank at all they denote it as MBT-2000. I have also their opinion about MBT-3000(whihc is obviously AK-2 lol,so much for technology absorption), they say its mobility is very good but that there is no need to lose sleep over it.

Pakistan they said is doing with AK what OFB is doing with the T-90. Licensing with no "know why" except with imported engines and some other stuff. Neither OFB or HIT has the capability or the wherewithal to improve the platfroms significantly without the OEM's help. There is even a Russian Hostel(with deputed russian experts) in HVF colony,chennai to assist them from the t-72.
So I dont think HIT which has just started with licensing tanks would have gone that far considering bothe are public run enterprises.

Another keyboard warrior with no knowledge of Al Khalid current capability and amount of Pakistani OWN technologies and net centric capability which goes in to Al Khalid shooting verbal diarrhea as usual

 

[kaku1]

Why are you assuming things which I haven't said or implied ? There is a reason net-centric capability is being deployed in armored regiments of Pakistan army to counter increasing IA armored might.

You and Inrockstar was Lol'ing and implying IA would reject Al Khalid straight away, Like I said, If you hold on to that thought, last laugh would be on you



Another keyboard warrior with no knowledge of Al Khalid current capability and amount of Pakistani OWN technologies and net centric capability which goes in to Al Khalid shooting verbal diarrhea as usual

Yes, I am implying IA reject the MBT-2000/T-80 straight away, even the upgraded version. But thats not means Al-Khalid is some inferior tank. And you think that Indian net-centric capability will be inferior after all the Exercises, dedicated Sat, even during war time, Civilian sats will work as military one.

BTW, you implied that Arjun is a way inferior tank if pitted against Al-Khalid, can you clarify that?

 

[Dash]

@Bratva what are alkhaid,s net centric capabilities??

 

[The Great One]

BTW, you implied that Arjun is a way inferior tank if pitted against Al-Khalid, can you clarify that?

Another stupid hindu. Arjunk is Indian/Hindu. Like all Indian/Hindu things, it is a fail.
'AL khalid has all the latest gadgets (IBMS, APS, Night fighting capability, survivability through better composite armor'. It doesn't matter that Arjun also has them or is even better in some regards. Al-Khalid is jadeed technology. Your tiny hindu brain can never understand this.

 

[longewala]

whats to LOL?

AL khalid has all the latest gadgets (IBMS, APS, Night fighting capability, survivability through better composite armor, misc items like auto loader, ATGM firing capability, etc ). Last laugh would be on you in battle field

If you add the "latest gadgets" to an ambassador car it doesn't become equal to a bmw

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

Yes, I am implying IA reject the MBT-2000/T-80 straight away, even the upgraded version. But thats not means Al-Khalid is some inferior tank. And you think that Indian net-centric capability will be inferior after all the Exercises, dedicated Sat, even during war time, Civilian sats will work as military one.

BTW, you implied that Arjun is a way inferior tank if pitted against Al-Khalid, can you clarify that?

You spelt Arjunk wrong.

Also, help yourself to this thread:

Al-Khalid tank (Type 90-IIM / MBT-2000) Information Pool

It will expand your mind.

 

[hussain0216]

Lets keep this simple

Arjun has been developed for decades, right


Now ignoring any reports, statements, comments on how good/bad the Arjun is

The bottom line is this

Either your army is against you and doesn't want india to develop thus places hurdles in front of the Arjun making up false reasons not to buy it and keep going for T90s


OR


The arjun is arjunk
Or more likely that the Arjun whilst not necessarily being a bad tank is over priced and not really good enough, the army doesn't want to induct a poor product and has only been arm twisted into placing nominal orders

The weight of being indias indigenous tank is so great that regardless of cost failure isn't an option but trying to get a tank right which has always been wrong is difficult

There is a old saying, You cant shine a turd

 

[Bratva]

@Bratva what are alkhaid,s net centric capabilities??

Integrated battle-field management system. Secure voice and data link with other tanks plus with the HQ plus with UAV's. . Every tank would know which tank is ours and where it is similar to what is installed in to your arjun. I guess it is of Israeli origin

Yes, I am implying IA reject the MBT-2000/T-80 straight away, even the upgraded version. But thats not means Al-Khalid is some inferior tank. And you think that Indian net-centric capability will be inferior after all the Exercises, dedicated Sat, even during war time, Civilian sats will work as military one.

BTW, you implied that Arjun is a way inferior tank if pitted against Al-Khalid, can you clarify that?

Not so long ago your tank fleet were night blind. I'm not implying anything. On Paper both look good. The judge would be battlefield who will decide who is who

 

[kaku1]

Integrated battle-field management system. Secure voice and data link with other tanks plus with the HQ plus with UAV's. . Every tank would know which tank is ours and where it is similar to what is installed in to your arjun. I guess it is of Israeli origin

Nope, DRDO develop that with help of ELBIT.

Not so long ago your tank fleet were night blind. I'm not implying anything. On Paper both look good. The judge would be battlefield who will decide who is who

For which tank you talking about T-72?, yes some years ago they were blind in night.

 

[帅的一匹]

Lol
A Comparative trials was done between Arjun and T 90 where T 90 was almost outclassed by Arjun.
According to Israel in quality Arjun is a Ferrai among the Tanks .

Laugh to death