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I have created this thread in response to Burqa-A Security-Challenge ?

People around the world are raising the questions about the practice of Muslim woman wearing the Burqa and how it poses a threat to the non Muslim and Muslim world in today's world. Muslim Suicide bombers are a recent phenomenon in Islam and everything associated Muslims (Burqas and beards) is now a security threat. I wonder if the long dresses worn by Amish woman will be considered a security threat in a similar way a Burqa does ? But then the Amish are spared because many chose not to travel by air.

But how have Burqaless woman fared throughout history? The earliest example I can think of is Helen of Troy... If she had worn a Burqa I am sure Paris would not have fallen in love with her Troy would never had fallen and the Ten years war between the Trojans and the Greeks would never have taken place and the good name of the Trojans would not have been tarnished by malicious software and Bart Simpsons father would have been called something else. Maybe this was her (Helen's) intention all along.

Then we have something in the espionage world called honeypots... Using attractive woman for HUMINT purposes... Many a diplomat has fallen to this trick. Examples include American Irvin C. Scarbeck, Clayton J. Lonetree, British John Vassall and Israeli Mordechai Vanunu. These men would not have been compromised if they had not been attracted towards Burqa less woman who were hired to seduce them.

Attractive woman have regularly been used to infiltrate high security areas throughout the ages since they tend to distract the guards and appear innocent and harmless.

In recent times we have the famous case of Anna Chapman

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I think she has caused more damage to the US than any Burqa clad terrorist man/woman can ever dream of causing.

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So in my opinion woman who dont dress modestly are a much larger security threat for Pakistan than the Burqa wearing ones..... Every woman working in Pakistan (irrespective of her work) who refuses to dress modestly (no I am not enfoircing the Burqa) should have a through background check performed on her and her activities kept under the radar (in case she turns out to be another Anna Chapman or Helen of Troy).

I know this may seem a bit too harsh and these are not used to wearing so many clothes in sunny weather but these are tough times also.... Life and national security are more important than a woman's right to feel comfortable in hot weather and the track record of Burqaless woman has threatened this right from woman of free world (or who woman who like to act like them).

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I know many people will have a lot to say about this.....
So let the good times begin :partay:
 
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oh boy, did Paris alone fall for helen or could have not been the other way around. did Helen feel not good with his Sartan King, I think the reason that Helen of Sprata left with Paris is she was totaly into him.
Don't think like a kid when you start a thead.
 
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oh boy, did Paris alone fall for helen or could have not been the other way around. did Helen feel not good with his Sartan King, I think the reason that Helen of Sprata left with Paris is she was totaly into him.


That is my point.... if she has observed the Parda she would not have eloped with Paris

Don't think like a kid when you start a thread

Now you know how we feel about the mentality of people who create Anti Burqa threads
 
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Burqas have nothing to do with terrorism. Many, many cultures have similar traditional dresses. There used to be a time in the not-too-recent past, when even in the west, women weren't paraded around - and socially pressured into bizarre things like bulimia(inducing vommitting after eating, primarily out of desperation to look thin) and stuff just to adhere to what fashion magazines tell them they should look like, in their culture like they are now.

They're just targetting Muslims these days, and arguably to a lesser extent, the Chinese. China, with one single modern aircraft carrier, is being painted as an agressor against the US, which has eleven. And Islam is suddenly the root of all evil, just like Communist Russia was responsible for all evil in the world(they "hated" US freedoms, like us Muslims). I read a very precise description on RT(Russia Today) of this US tendency to need enemies to justify their global military presence, and when enemies aren't present, their wonderful media creates them.


The Western media is on a quest to convince our societies that the religion of Islam and terrorism belong to each other. The Foreign Policy Journal puts it like this: “since the collapse of the Soviet Union the general drift of Western concerns has been to portray Islam as the main enemy of the West and the Muslim world as a hotbed of terrorism that threatens Western civilization and its democratic values.” Why does the West always need an enemy?

As a result of the Western media’s “hard work” in this direction, everybody in the whole world knows who Osama Bin Laden was. But how many have heard of Badshah Khan or Jawdat Saeid? Muslim heroes who promote peace and non-violent struggle are somehow just not exciting enough to make it into a news piece.

When we open a newspaper, we are used to seeing something along the line of “three teenagers attacked a schoolboy. One of the attackers was a Muslim”. Meanwhile, two others could have been Christian, Buddhist or atheists, but the paper wants us to know that “one of them was a Muslim,” creating a fear of the Muslim people among the readers.
 
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Just my 2 cents
why does Muslim woman if wears Burqa becomes security issue where as Christian nuns if wear full cloths in June are not ??
Why fully Dressed Jew woman is not a security issue ?

Whats the problem if any woman wants to wear it on her own choice, or even if her husband wants her too ? There are people who also force their woman to show off their body in public , why these people who force their woman are not security issue ???


i Know some of the people on this forum will say hell of lot things in favor of not wearing burqa ...? i challenge you guys put something real as example of your own family to support that you favor of not wearing hajab or burqa or even dressed modestly....

Come on show some gutts or we will know you are just keyboard choro person
 
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Just my 2 cents
why does Muslim woman if wears Burqa becomes security issue where as Christian nuns if wear full cloths in June are not ??
Why fully Dressed Jew woman is not a security issue ?

Whats the problem if any woman wants to wear it on her own choice, or even if her husband wants her too ? There are people who also force their woman to show off their body in public , why these people who force their woman are not security issue ???


i Know some of the people on this forum will say hell of lot things in favor of not wearing burqa ...? i challenge you guys put something real as example of your own family to support that you favor of not wearing hajab or burqa or even dressed modestly....

Come on show some gutts or we will know you are just keyboard choro person

Recently the Taliban used this Burqa thing and prepared an attack in kabul, since nobody searches women as they think it is wrong to search women(stupidity in its heights) the taliban took advantage of it and launched the attack. intead of becoming defensive over this issue, lets recognize the faultlines and improve security, this weak point could kill any of us, maybe you or me.
 
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Why not to introduce transparent Burqa
 
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Recently the Taliban used this Burqa thing and prepared an attack in kabul, since nobody searches women as they think it is wrong to search women(stupidity in its heights) the taliban took advantage of it and launched the attack. intead of becoming defensive over this issue, lets recognize the faultlines and improve security, this weak point could kill any of us, maybe you or me.

:) does it means what burqa was wrong? no it was your security which was wrong, There need to be woman security who check this sort of woman with burqa,

ok take this example

You know what will happen if any woman not modestly dressed goes to our streets, people keep their eyes on them and even if allow by conditions they maybe approached with some suggestions to meet up :) is this not a security issue for woman who wants to go out without getting this sort of attitude....

To prove yourself that you are against burqa wearing thing please accept my challenge. or we will take your posts as what i said in last post :)

OK TELL ME WHY DONT YOU ASK MEN NOT TO WEAR ANY CLOTHS AS TALIBAN ALMOST WEAR SAME CLOTHS AND ATTACK OR SUICIDE ATTACK, ALL AFGHANI SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING THEN I MUST SAY

Please come up with some logical asnwers
 
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Most Muslim countries have Hijab. Burqa is not an issue for most.
 
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That is my point.... if she has observed the Parda she would not have eloped with Paris
Now you know how we feel about the mentality of people who create Anti Burqa threads
The man too does have a mascular structure which may provoke a women to commit sin by masterbating thinking of a muscular man, is it not possible. so ultimatly the man should also wear a parda so that man do not provoke fire inside a women who is wearing a parda, and in the end no one will know to whom they are talking too.
It will be easy for a enemy to send a man in parda to spy...
To many advantages right :victory:
 
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You are wrong Most Muslims Country women use Hajab with Abaya which is same as Burqa .. so get some knowledge before posting...
 
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You are wrong Most Muslims Country women use Hajab with Abaya which is same as Burqa .. so get some knowledge before posting...
Stone age guys can not live in modern times. Its hard for them to digest that the world has moved past them.
 
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Please come up with some logical asnwers

:) does it means what burqa was wrong? no it was your security which was wrong, There need to be woman security who check this sort of woman with burqa,

I am not talking about right and wrong of Burqa, but i only pointed the fact that Burqa was used to challenge our security. If anybody wishes to wear Bruqa i dont have problem with them as long as they dont ask/force others to wear it.

ok take this example

You know what will happen if any woman not modestly dressed goes to our streets, people keep their eyes on them and even if allow by conditions they maybe approached with some suggestions to meet up :) is this not a security issue for woman who wants to go out without getting this sort of attitude....

Only frustrated people will look at them with 4 eyes. I remember i used to work in Maidan/Wardak province in Afghanistan during the taliban time, and we could barely see a woman from miles, and believe me we were that much desparate that we were dying to see a piece of women cloth even if they were not there themselves, the red colour was more appealing compare to the other colours, so it is your situation and how you react to it.

To prove yourself that you are against burqa wearing thing please accept my challenge. or we will take your posts as what i said in last post :)

I dotn wana prove anything, i just wanted to mention some realities, so dont be defenssive.

OK TELL ME WHY DONT YOU ASK MEN NOT TO WEAR ANY CLOTHS AS TALIBAN ALMOST WEAR SAME CLOTHS AND ATTACK OR SUICIDE ATTACK, ALL AFGHANI SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING THEN I MUST SAY

If those cloths are causing security concerns, then yes ban it.
 
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Stone age guys can not live in modern times. Its hard for them to digest that the world has moved past them.

wearning burqa is not living in stone age.... if you are so modern and living in modern times then why dont take up my challenge and post some modern pics of your own family here..... or admit that your just any other anti muslim person...
 
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