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The majority of India’s indigenously developed third generation Arjun main battle tanks have been grounded due to technical issues and missing spare parts, Defense News reported last week.

Originally supposed to enter service in the Indian Army in the 1980s, the Arjun MK-I program has witnessed repeated delays due to an inadequate design concept (e.g. too much heavy armor versus too little horsepower) partially based on the German Leopard II main battle tank and a flawed procurement and testing process.

Defense News quotes an Indian official who stated that “nearly 75 percent of the 124 [Arjun] tanks with the Army are grounded.” All in all there are more than 90 technical issues. “The problems in the Arjun tank are mainly confined to its transmission system, targeting and thermal sights,” the defense official noted.

Originally, more than 50 percent of components of the tank were imported, but this percentage has gradually diminished as various parts have been replaced by indigenous designed systems. Yet the tracked vehicle still requires foreign hardware to function and those supplied have dried up, according to the official.

“This prompted the Ministry of Defense (MoD) in late April to form a committee, headed by a retired three-star armored corps officer, to resolve the component shortages and reactivate the MBTs within two months,” IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly reported.

Rahul Bhonsle, a retired Indian Army brigadier general and defense analyst confirmed this assessment: “There are a number of issues related to functionality due to imported components, which seem to be bugging the Arjun Mark-1 fleet for some time now [sic]. The technical snags have reportedly led to much of the fleet remaining non operational, creating a void in the tank strength of the Indian Army.”

The Arjun MK-I tank was developed by the Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and produced by the Indian Ordnance Factory’s production facility in Avadi in southern India. The official noted that the Indian Army was obliged to acquire 124 tanks by the DRDO so that the factory could remain in operation.

Due to the repeated delays, India decided to acquire T-90s main battle tanks from Russia in the early 2000s. While the first 310 were directly imported from Russia, India is currently locally producing a customized and improved version of the T-90, the T-90 M Bhishma. A total of 500 T-90 and T-90 M tanks are currently in service in the Indian Army.

India plans to field 21 tank regiments of T-90s by 2020 through license-production, with 62 tanks per unit and more than 1,300 armored fighting vehicles total, although that number could go up (see: “The Main Battle Tanks of Asia: Junk or Still Useful?”).

However, DRDO is also working on an improved version of the Arjun, the MK-II, which has done very well in comparative trials with the T-90M, according to Defense News. It sports more than 93 improvements over the older version and with around 60 percent locally manufactured components is less depended on foreign imports, a DRDO official said.

“If the experience gained from Mark-1 is utilized fully there should be lesser technical problems with Mark-2 at present though reports of trials do not suggest the same,” Rahul Bhonsle emphasized. In September 2014, the Indian Army has placed an order for 118 MK-II tanks. However, a decision to indigenously develop a a new anti-tank missile to be fitted onto the MK-II will, in all likelihood, delay the induction of the upgraded platform.

LINK - Breakdown: What’s Happening With India’s Tank Force? | The Diplomat
 
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Its a mess, but let the indians keep stroking their egos on the Arjunk and LCA lemons

What do we care
 
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I think we need to junk the Arjun Mk-1 and speed up the manufacture of the Mk-2 instead. The former can be cannibalized for spare parts.

God less the DRDO.
 
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I think we need to junk the Arjun Mk-1 and speed up the manufacture of the Mk-2 instead. The former can be cannibalized for spare parts.

God less the DRDO.

First of all India needs to get rid of DRDO and other such PSUs who have no accountability and have provided no results, involve private sectors instead.

Second, get rid of the ego and collaborate with a superior. Tag with France/Russia/Israel to co-build a tank as in the case of Brahmos.

Third, keep Arjun as a tech demonstrator only. Arjun cannot match T-90. India will need a brand new tank.
 
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DRDO and PSUs deserves Bharat Ratna award .Shameful these babu's used our taxpayers money and successfully delayed all indigenous weapons development in favor of foreign companies . If we um think there were no foul play then we are fools . LCA to Tanks to trucks to basic small arms like Insas . Hell with DRDO .

Bring 100℅ FDI in defense .We need Made in India weapons doesn't mean made by India weapons. Both help to solve same problems. Don't blame Army IAF for not buying indigenous systems. Why our armed forces must be forced to use third grade weapons ?

First of all India needs to get rid of DRDO and other such PSUs who have no accountability and have provided no results, involve private sectors instead.

Second, get rid of the ego and collaborate with a superior. Tag with France/Russia/Israel to co-build a tank as in the case of Brahmos.

Third, keep Arjun as a tech demonstrator only. Arjun cannot match T-90. India will need a brand new tank.

Its not about capabilities but about capacity to produce requirements in India and end up wasting precious time buy keep importing equipments
 
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Its not about capabilities but about capacity to produce requirements in India and end up wasting precious time buy keep importing equipments

India has to keep importing weapons because DRDO absolutely sucks.

Kargil was won using foreign weapons. INSAS was an abject failure in Kargil and so was Pinaka. Indisan elite forces use the TAR-21 assault rifle over the junk INSAS. If DRDO can come up with something good then India won't import.

DRDO is a waste of public tax money.
 
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India has to keep importing weapons because DRDO absolutely sucks.

Kargil was won using foreign weapons. INSAS was an abject failure in Kargil and so was Pinaka. Indisan elite forces use the TAR-21 assault rifle over the junk INSAS. If DRDO can come up with something good then India won't import.

DRDO is a waste of public tax money.

I don't know whether you are from Pakistan or India.But what said is true. But Pinnaka is not a failure rather success. DRDO have accomplished many things no one can deny the facts but few major systems which are very basic requirements of our armed forces are failed terribly. I accept and am sad to do so. But what else we can do . Irresponsible PSUs . What ever u might do things can't be changed over night . On positive note India being very transparent democracy these things are seen every now and then. Same problems are faced by many other forces but it won't see the light .
 
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The majority of India’s indigenously developed third generation Arjun main battle tanks have been grounded due to technical issues and missing spare parts, Defense News reported last week.

Originally supposed to enter service in the Indian Army in the 1980s, the Arjun MK-I program has witnessed repeated delays due to an inadequate design concept (e.g. too much heavy armor versus too little horsepower) partially based on the German Leopard II main battle tank and a flawed procurement and testing process.

Defense News quotes an Indian official who stated that “nearly 75 percent of the 124 [Arjun] tanks with the Army are grounded.” All in all there are more than 90 technical issues. “The problems in the Arjun tank are mainly confined to its transmission system, targeting and thermal sights,” the defense official noted.

Originally, more than 50 percent of components of the tank were imported, but this percentage has gradually diminished as various parts have been replaced by indigenous designed systems. Yet the tracked vehicle still requires foreign hardware to function and those supplied have dried up, according to the official.

“This prompted the Ministry of Defense (MoD) in late April to form a committee, headed by a retired three-star armored corps officer, to resolve the component shortages and reactivate the MBTs within two months,” IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly reported.

Rahul Bhonsle, a retired Indian Army brigadier general and defense analyst confirmed this assessment: “There are a number of issues related to functionality due to imported components, which seem to be bugging the Arjun Mark-1 fleet for some time now [sic]. The technical snags have reportedly led to much of the fleet remaining non operational, creating a void in the tank strength of the Indian Army.”

The Arjun MK-I tank was developed by the Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and produced by the Indian Ordnance Factory’s production facility in Avadi in southern India. The official noted that the Indian Army was obliged to acquire 124 tanks by the DRDO so that the factory could remain in operation.

Due to the repeated delays, India decided to acquire T-90s main battle tanks from Russia in the early 2000s. While the first 310 were directly imported from Russia, India is currently locally producing a customized and improved version of the T-90, the T-90 M Bhishma. A total of 500 T-90 and T-90 M tanks are currently in service in the Indian Army.

India plans to field 21 tank regiments of T-90s by 2020 through license-production, with 62 tanks per unit and more than 1,300 armored fighting vehicles total, although that number could go up (see: “The Main Battle Tanks of Asia: Junk or Still Useful?”).

However, DRDO is also working on an improved version of the Arjun, the MK-II, which has done very well in comparative trials with the T-90M, according to Defense News. It sports more than 93 improvements over the older version and with around 60 percent locally manufactured components is less depended on foreign imports, a DRDO official said.

“If the experience gained from Mark-1 is utilized fully there should be lesser technical problems with Mark-2 at present though reports of trials do not suggest the same,” Rahul Bhonsle emphasized. In September 2014, the Indian Army has placed an order for 118 MK-II tanks. However, a decision to indigenously develop a a new anti-tank missile to be fitted onto the MK-II will, in all likelihood, delay the induction of the upgraded platform.

LINK - Breakdown: What’s Happening With India’s Tank Force? | The Diplomat

The article is remarkably poor, especially given the standards set by The Diplomat. There are several flaws in the article, and several misleading facts, which need to be corrected.

1. There are currently over 900 T-90S tanks in service in India, not 500 as the article claims.
Saurav Jha's Blog : A look at the Indian Army's Main Battle Tank programs

2. The IA plans to field 1657 T-90S tanks at the minimum, not 1300. Thats 26 regiments. Further, the 62 tanks per regiment does not mean an ORBAT consisting of 62 tanks. A tank regiment or tank battalion has a fighting strength of 45 tanks, with 17 held as reserve.

3. The Arjun MK-I armor was impervious to the T-72 fired AFSPDS at point blank range (50-200m). Infact it's composition is so good, the T-90S manufactured in India has a variant of this armor.

4. The CLGM is nearly ready for user trials. It will not hold up induction of the Arjun MK-II.

Journalists like to blow stuff out of proportion because well, it sells better. Few would make a detailed analysis of the fleet availability of the T series in IA. Just for comparison, I've a little anecdote:

The Operation Brasstacts involved over 2400 tanks of the IA in sustained operations, with upto 90 kms traversed every day for around 2 weeks. Though it did validate the refreshing concepts of the Brilliant Gen. Sunderjee, 70% of those tanks involved were put of action for upto 3 months, leaving a severe capability gap in the IA armored force.

So it's not as if the rest of the Indian armored fleet has the same availability as the venerable Maruti 800. All of them have hopelessly poor serviceability compared to the western Heavies. This does not mean there is no problem with the Arjun. I'm just trying to keep things in perspective,
 
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I don't know whether you are from Pakistan or India..

I also don't know whether you are from India or pakistan or whether you come from a good family background or if you have blood of traitors running in your veins. So why don't you just STFU?

When punks like you cannot digest bitter truth then you hide behind such fcuking excuses.
 
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The majority of India’s indigenously developed third generation Arjun main battle tanks have been grounded due to technical issues and missing spare parts, Defense News reported last week.

Originally supposed to enter service in the Indian Army in the 1980s, the Arjun MK-I program has witnessed repeated delays due to an inadequate design concept (e.g. too much heavy armor versus too little horsepower) partially based on the German Leopard II main battle tank and a flawed procurement and testing process.

Defense News quotes an Indian official who stated that “nearly 75 percent of the 124 [Arjun] tanks with the Army are grounded.” All in all there are more than 90 technical issues. “The problems in the Arjun tank are mainly confined to its transmission system, targeting and thermal sights,” the defense official noted.

Originally, more than 50 percent of components of the tank were imported, but this percentage has gradually diminished as various parts have been replaced by indigenous designed systems. Yet the tracked vehicle still requires foreign hardware to function and those supplied have dried up, according to the official.

“This prompted the Ministry of Defense (MoD) in late April to form a committee, headed by a retired three-star armored corps officer, to resolve the component shortages and reactivate the MBTs within two months,” IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly reported.

Rahul Bhonsle, a retired Indian Army brigadier general and defense analyst confirmed this assessment: “There are a number of issues related to functionality due to imported components, which seem to be bugging the Arjun Mark-1 fleet for some time now [sic]. The technical snags have reportedly led to much of the fleet remaining non operational, creating a void in the tank strength of the Indian Army.”

The Arjun MK-I tank was developed by the Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and produced by the Indian Ordnance Factory’s production facility in Avadi in southern India. The official noted that the Indian Army was obliged to acquire 124 tanks by the DRDO so that the factory could remain in operation.

Due to the repeated delays, India decided to acquire T-90s main battle tanks from Russia in the early 2000s. While the first 310 were directly imported from Russia, India is currently locally producing a customized and improved version of the T-90, the T-90 M Bhishma. A total of 500 T-90 and T-90 M tanks are currently in service in the Indian Army.

India plans to field 21 tank regiments of T-90s by 2020 through license-production, with 62 tanks per unit and more than 1,300 armored fighting vehicles total, although that number could go up (see: “The Main Battle Tanks of Asia: Junk or Still Useful?”).

However, DRDO is also working on an improved version of the Arjun, the MK-II, which has done very well in comparative trials with the T-90M, according to Defense News. It sports more than 93 improvements over the older version and with around 60 percent locally manufactured components is less depended on foreign imports, a DRDO official said.

“If the experience gained from Mark-1 is utilized fully there should be lesser technical problems with Mark-2 at present though reports of trials do not suggest the same,” Rahul Bhonsle emphasized. In September 2014, the Indian Army has placed an order for 118 MK-II tanks. However, a decision to indigenously develop a a new anti-tank missile to be fitted onto the MK-II will, in all likelihood, delay the induction of the upgraded platform.

LINK - Breakdown: What’s Happening With India’s Tank Force? | The Diplomat
When you waste 30 years on a single project you than mostly end up in trouble
 
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Journalists like to blow stuff out of proportion because well, it sells better. Few would make a detailed analysis of the fleet availability of the T series in IA. Just for comparison, I've a little anecdote:

You are right, the journalist does not know what he is typing. IA already operates a 1000 Arjun tanks.
 
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