What's new

Brazil's new president says he'll move country's embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem

DavidSling

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Oct 25, 2013
Messages
4,826
Reaction score
0
Country
Israel
Location
Israel
Jair Messias Bolsonaro, an avid admirer of President Trump, says US and Israel are the first two countries he intends to visit once in power after the far-right congressman scored a resounding victory at the polls, winning 55 percent of the votes.
Reuters|Published: 10.29.18 , 20:28
the lead of the United States.
Bolsonaro's supporters waving Israeli flag (Photo: AFP)

Trump called to congratulate Bolsonaro on Sunday night, shortly after the far-right congressman scored a resounding victory at the polls, winning 55 percent of the vote following a mud-slinging campaign with a leftist rival.

Bolsonaro and Trump spoke of "a strong commitment to work side-by-side" on issues affecting Brazil, the United States and beyond, the White House said.

Trump has bullied and wrangled with other leaders in the Americas, including Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto.

But in Bolsonaro, Trump will find a doppelganger whose world view and pugnacious style are strikingly similar to his own.

"Just like he wants to make America great, I want to make Brazil great," Bolsonaro, a former army captain, said in a televised interview in July.

The 63-year-old ran as an outsider bent on smashing what he sees as a corrupt and hidebound political system that has forgotten ordinary citizens. His fiery rhetoric and slurs against gays, women and minorities have thrilled followers who view him as an authentic straight shooter. He has championed law and order, patriotism and religious values. And he has demonized his leftist detractors as enemies of the people.


Jair Bolsonaro (Photo: AFP)

While many world leaders have held Trump at arm's length, Bolsonaro has made no secret of his esteem. He has praised America's 45th president as a gutsy, decisive commander who has prevailed in the face of unfair criticism.

"Trump faced the same attacks I am facing—that he was a homophobe, a fascist, a racist, a Nazi," Bolsonaro told Reuters last year before his candidacy caught fire. "But the people believed in his platform. I was rooting for him."

Such blandishments are likely to play well with Trump, who has shown an affinity for authoritarian leaders, particularly those who flatter and cajole him.

Christopher Garman, chief Americas analyst for the New York-based political risk consultancy Eurasia Group, said a new cross-hemisphere bromance could be in the offing.

"(Bolsonaro's) win will surely herald a stronger bilateral relationship," Garman said. "Bolsonaro not only is a self-professed fan of Donald Trump, but both were elected on a wave of anti-establishment anger with relatively similar ideological proclivities. The White House is likely to respond well, and Donald Trump has already shown he values personal relationships with foreign leaders."

In addition, similarly to Trump, Bolsonaro is rethinking his country's membership in multinational organizations and treaties that he thinks might not be in Brazil's best interest, including the Mercosur trade bloc, the BRICS group of large emerging economies and the Paris climate accord.

Those changes would reverse 13 years' worth of diplomacy crafted by governments led by the country's leftist Workers Party, which focused on alliances with Brazil's South American neighbors and other developing powers.

Bolsonaro is also questioning Brazil's relationship with China, which he views as a predatory economic partner. The Asian giant is Brazil's biggest foreign buyer of soybeans, iron ore and other commodities. But Bolsonaro is alarmed at a spate of Chinese purchases of Brazilian energy and infrastructure companies.


Bolsonaro's supporters (Photo: Reuters)

"The Chinese are not buying in Brazil. They are buying Brazil," Bolsonaro has warned repeatedly.

Such talk is likely to please Trump, whose tariffs on Chinese goods have ignited a trade war that has much of the world blaming the United States for disrupting global supply chains and rattling markets worldwide.

So, too, is Bolsonaro's plan to privatize a string of Brazil's state-owned companies and loosen environmental restrictions to make way for more mining, ranching and farming.

Still, trade is likely to remain a sore point between the United States and Brazil, whose steep tariffs on imported goods make it one of the most closed economies in the world.

Trump singled out Brazil this month in a rant about tariffs.

"They charge us whatever they want," he said in remarks to reporters at a White House event. "If you ask some of the companies, they say Brazil is among the toughest in the world - maybe the toughest in the world."

Even if trade issues remain thorny, Bolsonaro's gaze is directed north. He is an avid supporter of the National Rifle Association and vows that once he takes office on January 1, he will roll back Brazil's strict gun laws and let citizens take up arms to defend themselves from criminals.


Bolsonaro's supporters (Photo: AFP)

Like Trump, Bolsonaro masterfully tapped into voters' fears and frustrations to rocket to the presidency. Brazil is beset by appalling levels of street crime. In the past few years, a sprawling corruption investigation has revealed epic levels of corruption at the highest levels of government.

One former president is in jail and another was impeached and tossed from office. The economy was hit by the worst downturn in decades and has yet to regain its luster; more than 13 million Brazilians are unemployed.

Hungry for change, voters responded to Bolsonaro's bold promises to crack heads and clean up the mess.

Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon said he sees echoes of his old boss, who rode a similar wave of discontent.

"It takes those types of crises, and Brazil is going through that type of crisis now," Bannon told Reuters recently. "I think that Bolsonaro, he's a figure like Trump."
 
.
My assessment prior to this press release:-

Donald Trump is not isolating US but challenging "political elitism" - local and international (the status quo). No country can exist in isolation in modern times as apparent from the chapter of Great Depression and subsequent World War 2.

Economic reforms under Donald Trump:-
  • NAFTA -> USMCA
  • Amendment in KORUS*
Bilateral deals intact under Donald Trump:-

Australia; Bahrain; Chile; Columbia; Israel; Jordan; South Korea*; Morocco; Oman; Panama; Peru; and Singapore.

LINK: https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements

New bilateral deals under Donald Trump:-
  • AUCC (with Uzbekistan)
Watch out for following developments in 2019:-
  • Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil
  • Taiwan
  • TTIP (with Europe)
  • Japan
  • UK
We are witnessing temporary shake-ups in the existing order but some people misread these developments as the end of times or something.

US is an incredibly important market for much of the world; American consumer base is really strong. Everybody understand that Presidents come and go.

China have its own claim to fame with OBOR initiative and Paris Climate Agreement.

FYI: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/will...s-trade-deal-with-china.583595/#post-10898351
 
Last edited:
.
Great news. I hope he fixes the mess of Brazil that leftists destroyed.
 
. . .
in 2010 Brazil supported Iran for nuclear program against Israel and The US
and the US destroyed Brazilian government and finally could find a puppet leader to the US and Israel

S.Arabia is led by puppet MBS
Egypt is led by puppet SISI
and now Brazil is led by puppet BOLSONARO

ZION Power makes pathetic Countries slaves again


btw N.America is full of radical catholics and Catholics so hate the Jews who killed JESUS
 
Last edited:
.
We'll see about that. Paraguay did the same thing and then they moved it back to Tel Aviv
 
.
Jair Messias Bolsonaro, an avid admirer of President Trump, says US and Israel are the first two countries he intends to visit once in power

So he wants to develop understandings with American Jews and Israeli Jews. It's really strange that all these presidential candidates around the world and especially the US always have to visit Israel or meet with Jewish groups in the US as if they are seeking some kind of approval.

And I don't want to hear that he's trying to appeal to his Christian base. Christians have a lot of other wings to worry out besides Israel.

We'll see about that. Paraguay did the same thing and then they moved it back to Tel Aviv

I think that's because they got a new President who reversed the decision ....

Anyway I don't know much about this newly inaugurated Brazilian President, but he needs to fix issues in his country instead of trying to assist Israel in it's anti-Palestinian annexation policies before even looking at welfare of his people.

Maybe he wants Jewish Americans to use their influence to allow US invest more in Brazil or something.


I agree with much of your assessment, however it's not just political elitism but he also seems to want to retain white majority in the US. Political elites are worried of what kind of right wing base will develop out of this, and if it will begin to develop into far right antisemitic movements. The right wing know this, so they keep their rhetoric mostly anti-Muslim/brown people. Now Trump is talking about how he is a 'nationalist' and how he is challenging the 'Globalists'. So who knows if he wins a second term where he will take all of this.

I don't think 8 years is enough to bring the change he wants, and neoconservatives will prevail in the end. And keep their bigotry directed at Muslims. So if this mid terms goes well for Republicans, then Trump needs to start taking action against neoconservative globalists. If he doesn't all his efforts will have gone to waste.
 
.
The rise of Jair Bolsonaro to power is only thanks to the corrupt and incompetent politics of those who ruled Brazil before him. I talk about the far-left Partido dos Trabalhadores or PT- Workers’ Party.

That same party ran Brazil for like 15 years and is part of the biggest corruption scandal in Brazil’s history. That same Worker’s Party lead Brazil to it’s hardest economic recession since the 1930s. Murder rates, crime rates and narco violence and drug trade exploded and only in the last year more than 67 000 have been killed. Cities like Rio, Vitoria, Salvador and many others are one of the most dangerous places on Earth.

Those are only some of the reasons why Brazilians who want change and security voted for that guy who is a controversial figure but still much better than voting for a Commie and continue the vicious circle.

The thing is that in the last years Brazil which is a traditionally Catholic country is seeing rise in the number of Evangelical Christianity. Nowadays more than a third of all people are Evangelicals and they are all hardcore pro-Israel. That same people voted for Bolsonaro too. If I remember he is an Evangelist too so you can understand why he wants to move their embassy to Jerusalem.
 
.
Great news. I hope he fixes the mess of Brazil that leftists destroyed.
Good job showing that you know little to nothing about Brazil's past.

Don't get your hopes up for him, he's a fascist, whom a lot of anti-semites back. He's going to be a resounding failure, just like Duterte has been so far; in fact, I'd wager he's probably going to be worse than Duterte.

Pure right wing policy and politics has never worked for the betterment of the people, for a reason, no chance it will work here either. This guy is gonna get one term, and he's going to be ousted and humiliated.
 
.
Do these right-wingers not understand right wing history of antisemitism? Right wingers are enemies of Israel, just look at what happened at Pittsburgh.
 
.
Usually these people are elected with Jewish money. They take the money and they make a pledge to do something in favor of Israel.
 
.
Good job showing that you know little to nothing about Brazil's past.

Don't get your hopes up for him, he's a fascist, whom a lot of anti-semites back. He's going to be a resounding failure, just like Duterte has been so far; in fact, I'd wager he's probably going to be worse than Duterte.

Pure right wing policy and politics has never worked for the betterment of the people, for a reason, no chance it will work here either. This guy is gonna get one term, and he's going to be ousted and humiliated.

We heard all this about Trump. Yet what do we see? lowest unemployment rates for African Americans and Latinos in history.

The leftist pro-palestinian trash are being defeated all around the world. That's a great thing. :dirol:
 
.
Do these right-wingers not understand right wing history of antisemitism? Right wingers are enemies of Israel, just look at what happened at Pittsburgh.


Far-right movements in the past used to be mostly anti-Jewish but now in most cases are only anti- Muslim. Many right parties in the West love Israel more than anything else too- Especially those where Evangelicals have the biggest influence over the politics.


Here is a nice video where you can understand the way of thinking of those delusional people.
 
.
We heard all this about Trump. Yet what do we see? lowest unemployment rates for African Americans and Latinos in history.

The leftist pro-palestinian trash are being defeated all around the world. That's a great thing. :dirol:
Oh **** off, those policies have nothing to do with trump. It's because of Obama era policies that unemployment is down.

Trump has actually increased unemployment, and his policies have cost millions of jobs, as well as tens of billions of dollars in damage to businesses, including to farmers and housing developers.

Don't get your hopes up, it's the far right wing dog turds that are being defeated. Winning an election here and there won't change the fact that far right parties are losing globally.

Come mid terms, the Democrats are going to control both the house and the Senate. Come 2020 elections, the Dems are going to clean sweep the GOP across the US. That's assuming Mueller's doesn't end up fucking the GOP, before the next presidential elections.

It's clear that you have very little knowledge on how politics, economics, and policy making work. Next time, do some basic research on subjects, before running your mouth and screeching about "leftists".After Charlottesville and now Pittsburgh, I have little patience for right wing opinion.
 
Last edited:
.
Back
Top Bottom