What's new

Brahmos Cruise Missile: Faster than a speeding bullet

Ali.009

FULL MEMBER
Joined
Sep 7, 2008
Messages
965
Reaction score
-6

The Bharati missile production has been plagued by delays and failures. At one point the frustrated Indians wanted to scrap the entire indigenous program and then build only those missiles which had a foreign collaboration. The problem with this strategy is that American For-profit companies do not transfer technology and commit commercial suicide. The other problem is that Russia has failed to transfer technology to Bharat because it has been cozying up with the US.

Bharat’s Brahmos Cruise Missile: Faster than a speeding bullet–that’s a dud!




NEW DELHI, Jan 9: India’s missile scientists have said that the country’s indigenous missile programme is flagging and needs foreign assistance to revive it.

The embarrassing admission came amid claims by Indian analysts that Pakistan’s missile programme had proved to be more robust and surefooted than India’s. The Mail Today newspaper on Wednesday quoted the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as announcing that it would scrap its 25-year Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP) by the end of this year. Pakistan missile project ahead of India’s’


Bharat has purchased 800 of the PJ-10 Brahmos missiles from Russia, painted them with the Tricolor. There is one slight problem. The Indian Army refuses to buy them ’till they can be tested and proven that they work.

-The Indian Army is refusing to buy any more of the 3.2 ton BrahMos cruise missiles which have a range of 300 kms.

-The Truck mounted army version of BrahMos failed its first operational test
Last year, India ordered 800 more of the new PJ-10 BrahMos missiles.

-The Indian Army had planned to buy 80 launchers as well.
Russia has not yet ordered any BrahMos

-The BrahMos special version, in spite of being an Indo-Russian venture, was fully dependent on US satellites.

-The Russian global positioning network is not usually used by Indian defence agencies for their strategic programmes.

-“This leads to speculation about why the entire galaxy of US satellites failed to provide signals to the missile.

-We need to solve the mystery of how the satellites suddenly failed over the Pokharan skies,” sources said.


February 2, 2009: The Indian Army is refusing to buy any more BrahMos cruise missiles until the system has proved, via realistic testing, that it can do what it was designed to do. The army version of BrahMos failed its first operational test recently. While the Indian Navy is happy with the performance of its version of the missile (which is used to destroy enemy warships), the army version is equipped with a different terminal guidance system, that is supposed to enable the missile to hit a target in a cluttered environment. This is basically a video camera which broadcasts back to an operator images of what the missile is headed for. This is so minor adjustments can be made, to insure that the right, say, building can be hit. In addition to getting that new guidance seeker working, the army is also concerned with the high cost of each missile (over $2 million).

The Indian Army BrahMos is fired from a truck mounted launcher, and during the test, missed its target some 200 kilometers distant. The missile was accepted for service in the Indian Navy three years ago, but the first operational test of the army version was delayed as engineers fussed over technical issues. The missile had performed well in development tests. But an operational test means the missile is issued to a combat unit, and fired by a military crew. Russia has had problems like this before, as have all countries. But Russia has had more problems with high tech weapons, like BrahMos, than Western nations.

Last year, India ordered 800 more of the new PJ-10 BrahMos missiles. The Indian Army had planned to buy 80 launchers as well. Russia has not yet ordered any BrahMos, while India is also working on lighter versions for use by aircraft and submarines.

The 3.2 ton BrahMos has a range of 300 kilometers and a 660 pound warhead. Perhaps the most striking characteristic is its high speed, literally faster (at up to 3,000 feet per second) than a rifle bullet. Guidance is GPS or inertial to reach the general area of the target (usually a ship or other small target), then radar (in the navy version) that will identify the specific target and hit it. The warhead weighs 660 pounds, and the high speed at impact causes additional damage (because of the weight of the entire missile.)

India and Russia developed the weapon together, and now offer the BrahMos for export. The high price of each missile, about $2.3 million, restricts the number of countries that can afford it. Different versions of the PJ-10 can be fired from aircraft, ships, ground launchers or submarines. The maximum speed of 3,000 kilometers an hour makes it harder to intercept, and means it takes five minutes or less to reach its target. The air launched version weighs 2.5 tons, the others, three tons or more.

The 29 foot long, 670mm diameter missile is an upgraded version of the Russian SS-NX-26 (Yakhont) anti-ship missile, which was in development when the Cold War ended in 1991. Lacking money to finish development and begin production, the Russian manufacturer made a deal with India to finish the job. India put up most of the $240 million needed to finally complete two decades of development. The PJ-10 is also being built in Russia. Efforts are being made to export up to 2,000. China and Iran have also expressed interest in the weapon, but only Malaysia, Chile, South Africa, Kuwait and the UAE (United Arab Emirates) have been approached with a sales pitch. Russia and India are encouraged enough to invest in BrahMos 2, which will use a scramjet, instead of a ramjet, in the second stage. This would double speed, and make the missile much more difficult to defend against.

The large order from India indicates it plans to make the missile a major weapon system. The BrahMos can carry a nuclear warhead, but is designed mainly to go after high value targets that require a large warhead and great accuracy. The BrahMos could take out enemy headquarters, or key weapons systems (especially those employing electronic or nuclear weapons.) Strategy Page: Build It Right, And They Will Come


The Cruise Missile that is faster than a bullet is a dud. It does not work. There are all sorts of excuses about the failed missile system–the latest one being the report that the US satellites did something wrong.

KOCHI: DRDO scientists have launched an investigation into the failure of the BrahMos army version missile, especially why its GPS system couldn’t link onboard computers with hovering satellites eventually crippling its guidance system and keeping it frm achieving mission objectives.

The ambit of the probe will also examine why US satellites blinked during the test window, thereby denying the missile the crucial inputs needed for its guidance.

A primary analysis of the January 20 test has shown that the missile, a special version capable of hitting hidden targets like terrorist camps, performed the flight plan but missed the target. The missile was supposed to hit a rather insignificant target hidden among obstructions at the Pokharan range.


“It had an advance seeker which was to home in on the target using GPS data obtained through US satellites.

But it is a mystery why the SCAN technology failed to access the satellites,” said BrahMos sources.

The seeker, an advanced one developed to guide the missile to very insignificant targets, was a success during test flights. The seeker and the new software were tested extensively using fighter aircraft flying at top speeds.

“Once we were confident of their success, we decided to go in for the first test on the missile. But the failure is a mystery,” top sources told to The New Indian Express.The BrahMos special version, in spite of being an Indo-Russian venture, was fully dependent on US satellites. The Russian global positioning network is not usually used by Indian defence agencies for their strategic programmes. “This leads to speculation about why the entire galaxy of US satellites failed to provide signals to the missile. We need to solve the mystery of how the satellites suddenly failed over the Pokharan skies,” sources said.

The probe report is expected by Wednesday and will be submitted to the Defence Minister. Though the failure rattled the Army a bit, sources said its top brass was still for BrahMos missiles. “We will wait for the result of the February 20 tests.

The missile is still the best to hit a defined and designated target like an enemy depot or an airport. The wait-and-watch is only regarding the advanced version of BrahMos,” sources told to The New Indian Express. BrahMos failed as US shut its eyes in the sky? Manoj K Das Last Updated : 02 Feb 2009 06:59:48 PM IST


Algeria had the guts and the gumptions to cancel the Russian purchase the return the sub standard planes back to Russia. Does India have the guts?

Algeria Returns Russian Migs, Demands Money Back

Russia sold the Migs-29’s to Algeria at cut-rate prices, and forgave past debts of $4.7 billion to get the deal. The photo shows an Iraqi Mig-29 shot down in Operation Desert Storm.AltNet October 24th, 2008

The Migs for Algeria were actually old airframes from the 1990’s with new equipment installed. The problem is that the frame and skin of an aircraft wears out, because it is constantly flexing in flight. Eventually it’s like repeatedly bending a wire in the same place, the metal starts to break apart. No wonder Algeria was mad. They have also canceled an oil contract with the Russian national oil company Gazprom.

After Israel bombed the nuclear plant in Syria, StrategyPage.com predicted that many Russian military deals would falter. The Russian radar and anti-aircraft systems that were installed in Syria obviously didn’t work. Once customers find out that the equipment doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do, they get cranky and cancel contracts. This may be a contributory factor in the case of Algeria.

Russian military equipment is usually much cheaper than U.S. equipment, or the best European equipment. However, it’s usually just not as good. Rickety old Russian Migs are good enough for attacking rebels, or neighbors, but if you have to go up against the U.S. or her allies, you’re toast. Alt Net October 24th, 2008
 
.
/\/\/\ so whats your problem our money let us spend on whatever we want now shut your crap :chilli: and watch out its gonna be retested on 4th march i.e, today if it fails it is a failure if it succeeds i am not the one who will be sweating ...........
 
.
BrahMos test fired successfully

Jaisalmer, March 04: India on Wednesday successfully test fired supersonic cruise missile BrahMos in Pokharan.

Initial reports citing DRDO officials said that the new version of cruise missile BrahMos hit target during its test firing in the test range. The test was earlier scheduled for February 20 but had to be postponed due to technical glitches.

The test of the missile, which has a range of 290 km and speeds touching 2.8 times that of sound, was necessitated because of an earlier failure on January 20 when there were minor hitches in the last stage of the missile.

Th failure was attributed to some problems in the software that guides the missile.

The software problem was addressed and rectified to ensure that the missile hits the target at short range with equal efficiency and accuracy, following which today’s test took place.

BrahMos missile is a joint Indo-Russian venture and is considered one of the best in its class.
 
. .
A ship-to-shore version of the supersonic Brahmos missile was successfully test fired in the Andamans today.

Defence Ministry announced that the missile with a range of more than 290 kms was launched from the deck of the Russian acquired missile destroyer INS Rajput and precisely hit a land target in one of the islands.

"The missile met all mission parameters and the test has established the sea to land capability of the formidable weapon system," a Defence Ministry spokesman said.

This was the 15th test of the missile jointly developed by Russia and India. Scientists have already carried out successful tests of the ship-to-ship version as well as Surface-to-surface version of the multi-role missiles.

The induction of Brahmos has already begun in the Navy as well as Army. Defence Research and Development Organisation is now developing air-to-ground and submarine-launched version of the missile.

Defence Minister A K Antony congratulated the naval team as well as scientists for the success of the ship-to-land version of the missile.

Sea-to-land version of BrahMos test fired from Andamans

too old news the test was may 2008 why r u post this new now ??
 
.
The sh!tty rupee news again at it, what else, the crappy news. Brahmos II is test-fired successfully.
 
.
Anybody saw hitting it to the target? I saw it flying all over india and finally fell into the pacific. The missiles which always miss there target suddnly start hitting them? Something sure is fishy.
 
. .
ohhhh please let us know more details from your personal SPY SATELLITE :rofl:

U dont need a spy satellite to see a missile passing over your roof :rolleyes: The recent sound you hurd outside your room, was not of a PLANE. Oh and btw, its INDO-RUSSIAN venture lol, i dono how much indians had to beg to russians in helping out with their crappy metal.
 
.
^^ And you know that it was tested near his house :rofl: :rofl: , ofcourse based on your personal satellite. :rofl:
 
.
Anybody saw hitting it to the target? I saw it flying all over india and finally fell into the pacific. The missiles which always miss there target suddnly start hitting them? Something sure is fishy.

Then you can see all the test which Pakistan make his missile 100% successful 0% failure never a single missile fail its all happened in Pakistan. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Last edited:
.
Well , with all due respect sir,
Since when did Brahmos became a pile of crappy metal? Does pakistan have a single such missile ? or have a dream to make one ?
I think its very wrong to question Indian missile ability tell me how many tests are conducted by pakistan on their Better missile ?
Brahmos is being modified with every passing day to keep it uptodate - by DRDO. thats why these test are done and during these upgradation a few failure are bound to happen. But number of failure are nothing compared to number of sucess.
 
Last edited:
.
Then can see all the test which Pakistan make his missile 100% successful 0% failure never a single missile fail its all happened in Pakistan. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

You can do 3 things,

1) Either laugh less, so you can divert the energy towards your brain and use it to make proper sentences which can be understood by human beings.

2) learn english on www.englishfordummbies.com

3) or visit a nearest zoo and read the above paragraph to monkeys there, they sure will understand you and enjoy it. No guarantee however.
 
.
Well , with all due respect sir,
Since when did Brahmos became a pile of crappy metal? Does pakistan have a single such missile ? or have a dream to make one ?
I think its very wrong to question Indian missile ability tell me how many tests are conducted by pakistan on their Better missile ?
Brahmos is being modified with every passing day to keep it uptodate - by DRDO. thats why these test are done and during these upgradation a few failure are bound to happen. But number of failure are nothing compared to number of sucess.

Indian missile ability? You should right away order one such pair of eye glasses :

d77f1fdd4863c720cd6bc98cae92cc77.jpg


Because you cant read this line in the article posted by one of your companions " BrahMos missile is a joint Indo-Russian venture "

India has no capabality of any kind, missile stuff are far thing, its all russians helping india out. And because of the deteriorating indo-russia relations, in future, indian mothers should concentrate more on their diet so they can produce kids with working brains who can then develop a working missile for their bharat mata.
 
.
As imagined - a troll-er is what you are. Give a proof that Brahmos is pile of metel crap or just come and talk to my behind.
Without taking away credit from Pakistani missiles. I can tell you Brahmos is way too advance technology. Where as for indo russiona JOINT VENTURE. Give me source which says DRDO had less to do in Brahmos. than Russian counter part or else again you know where to talk ????
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom