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While acknowledging discussions over the establishment of Pakistan-Israel diplomatic relations, Pakistan spokesperson Major General Asif Ghafoor some weeks ago quashed rumours that this would actually happen in November 2019. Pakistani journalist Kunwar Khuldune Shahid wrote about the country’s diplomatic-military decision-makers considering the need for ties with Israel in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on September 3, 2019, which marked 14 years of the first official meeting between the two states. On 1 September 2005, the then Pakistan and Israel foreign ministers Khurshid Kasuri and Silvan Shalom met in Istanbul. Former president Pervez Musharraf had orchestrated the rendezvous to end decades of diplomatic stalemate between the two countries. However, nothing concrete materialised between them. Rumours surface from time to time, but the two states continue to maintain diplomatic silence. But their story is not as bland.

Pakistan lacks a direct conflict with Israel but has never established open diplomatic relations with Tel Aviv. Pakistan does not officially recognise the state of Israel, and its green-coloured passport clearly mentions “for all the countries except Israel”. Islamabad has repeatedly reiterated its position against Israel in the UN and other international fora. However, their bilateral silence cannot be equated with absence of ties. Their diplomats have interacted with each other in foreign capitals for several decades since the early 1950s. According to Professor PR Kumaraswamy, a West Asia specialist, “Influential Jewish leaders like Edmund de Rothschild have privately operated, and at times funded efforts to further Pakistan-Israel normalisation.” And there are signs of change. There is an emerging feeling in Islamabad that since its Arab allies have diplomatically engaged with Israel, they too could do so.

In the late 1970s, the legendary Israeli leader General Moshe Dayan had reportedly interacted with Indian representatives in Kathmandu, besides meeting with then Prime Minister Morarji Desai in New Delhi. Islamabad believed Dayan’s visit was linked to a prospective covert joint operation by India and Israel to attack Pakistan’s nuclear programme. With its aerial attack on Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981, Israel acquired aggressive credentials and this continued to fuel Pakistan’s fears about the vulnerability of its nuclear installation at Kahuta.

The late Pakistani President Zia-ul Haq decided to reassure Israel that the Pakistani nuclear programme would not threaten its national interests as the US had close relations with both Pakistan and Israel. Washington is supposed to have aided initial contacts between these two states created on the basis of religion. In a sense, Israel was confident that the US would not allow Pakistan’s nuclear capability to threaten Israel. Perhaps this explains the Israeli position that abstains from any reference to Pakistan in the context of pre-emptive strikes against the nuclear programmes of Iraq, Iran and Libya. As a result, President Zia opted for a back-channel between the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate and Israel’s Mossad through their officers attached to their embassies in Washington DC.

In the 1980s, Pakistan assisted the US in its guerilla war against the erstwhile Soviet forces in Afghanistan, bringing together the ISI and Mossad in this covert war. Cold War politics brought the two aloof states on the same side. For instance, when an Indian Army officer from the hush-hush ‘Establishment 22’ was sent to Tel Aviv for a commercially-run counter-hijack course in the early 1980s, he found a Pakistan Army officer also training there with him. Clearly, it suggested a covert cooperative arrangement between Pakistan and Israel. Equally interesting was Dan Kiesel’s presence in Pakistan as a sports psychotherapist for the Pakistan Cricket Board in the early 1990s. As a German passport-holder, his initial tenure in Pakistan was easy. However, his identity as an Israel-born Jewish person eventually became a sensitive subject in Pakistan’s Senate and his tenure ended prematurely.

Pakistan’s obsession with religion and paranoia over an India-Israel-US nexus makes this alliance a political suicide domestically – a risk no political party in Pakistan has been willing to take. For a long time, the Iran factor and Pakistan’s fraternal ties with the Arab world, specifically its most important ally Saudi Arabia, curtailed Pakistan from considering any positive change in its Israel policy.

Considering that the Arab world and Iran championed the Palestinian cause and anti-Israel rhetoric, it further constrained Islamabad from developing ties with Tel Aviv. However, over the years, anti-Iran sentiment overtook anti-Israel sentiment, and the Gulf countries gravitated toward Israel on account of common enmity with Iran. This opened a window of opportunity for Pakistan to reconsider its Israel policy. Even the late Benazir Bhutto had articulated an interest to normalise Pakistan’s ties with Israel during her election campaign in 2007. Importantly, there are unconfirmed reports about Israel’s interest to sell military technologies to Pakistan in 2010. Several Pakistani scholars have expressed similar opinions in newspaper articles – that Pakistan would benefit from an alliance with Israel. However, the Jewish state remains a heartache for the average Muslim in the Islamic republic.

In October 2018, when rumours of an Israeli jet landing at Rawalpindi surfaced in the media, it created an uproar in Pakistan. Similar outrage was witnessed when Pakistan’s foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, in an interview, expressed an interest to normalise ties with Israel on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference in February 2019. When questioned back home, he was quick to deny the same. The writing on the wall has always been hazy and unclear, and the topic of Pakistan-Israel relations remains clouded with uncertainty. But with the Arab world’s geopolitical gravitation towards Israel, it might be feasible for Islamabad to legitimise its foreign policy gambit in the wider perspective of its policy toward the Arab countries. Thus, New Delhi might have to brace for hyphenation of Pakistan and Israel ties in the near future, much to its discomfort.

(Chengappa teaches International Relations and Strategic Studies at the Christ Deemed to be University, Bengaluru; Divya is a PhD candidate at Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi)
 
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According to India, Pakistan and Israel are going to become such best friends that we can even ask Israel for the Iron Dome System. We will be conducting joint military drills and patrols. A heartfelt LOL to the Indian propaganda.
 
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its better if pakistan for once start thinking about its foreign policy from its head and not from its @ss!
Their is nooooooo need to do bhund panga with Isreal because it will be really costly for a poor nation Pakistan.
I dont care about Palestine issue because it SHOULD not be OUR focking problem just like kashmir is not our umma chumma arab's broblem!
 
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Good article. Need of the hour.
 
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its better if pakistan for once start thinking about its foreign policy from its head and not from its @ss!
Their is nooooooo need to do bhund panga with Isreal because it will be really costly for a poor nation Pakistan.
I dont care about Palestine issue because it SHOULD not be OUR focking problem just like kashmir is not our umma chumma arab's broblem!


You can try and go lick Israel's *** on your own, but they will still treat you like sewer rat and kick you out of their way.

Pakistan's problem is not with Israel, problem is Pakistan is a problem for Israel.

You can go and bend your shit and what not but Israel will still come to whoop your *** and that is because they know what they are doing while the ignorants amongst us like you have no clue on what they are doing and what you are supposed to do.
The mentally deprived ones can't get this because it needs a bit of inner enlightenment which you lack and exist on the shallow side of things you do.

And you don't care about Palestine issue or any other issue because you are one of those selfish folk, the same type who have been voting in the looters mafia in our country.
It's not about arab or **** or kashmiri. It's about morality, and doing what is right, but for that you need to have some intellect and morality inside there. Void of which you will let lose statements just like above and think you are being smart while drowning in the misery of ignorance.

I didn't mean this to be offensive but I don't have better words to try to make you people stop being ignorant and sheep to the wrong and lack of information.
 
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pak%20isr-1576300201.jpg

While acknowledging discussions over the establishment of Pakistan-Israel diplomatic relations, Pakistan spokesperson Major General Asif Ghafoor some weeks ago quashed rumours that this would actually happen in November 2019. Pakistani journalist Kunwar Khuldune Shahid wrote about the country’s diplomatic-military decision-makers considering the need for ties with Israel in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz on September 3, 2019, which marked 14 years of the first official meeting between the two states. On 1 September 2005, the then Pakistan and Israel foreign ministers Khurshid Kasuri and Silvan Shalom met in Istanbul. Former president Pervez Musharraf had orchestrated the rendezvous to end decades of diplomatic stalemate between the two countries. However, nothing concrete materialised between them. Rumours surface from time to time, but the two states continue to maintain diplomatic silence. But their story is not as bland.

Pakistan lacks a direct conflict with Israel but has never established open diplomatic relations with Tel Aviv. Pakistan does not officially recognise the state of Israel, and its green-coloured passport clearly mentions “for all the countries except Israel”. Islamabad has repeatedly reiterated its position against Israel in the UN and other international fora. However, their bilateral silence cannot be equated with absence of ties. Their diplomats have interacted with each other in foreign capitals for several decades since the early 1950s. According to Professor PR Kumaraswamy, a West Asia specialist, “Influential Jewish leaders like Edmund de Rothschild have privately operated, and at times funded efforts to further Pakistan-Israel normalisation.” And there are signs of change. There is an emerging feeling in Islamabad that since its Arab allies have diplomatically engaged with Israel, they too could do so.

In the late 1970s, the legendary Israeli leader General Moshe Dayan had reportedly interacted with Indian representatives in Kathmandu, besides meeting with then Prime Minister Morarji Desai in New Delhi. Islamabad believed Dayan’s visit was linked to a prospective covert joint operation by India and Israel to attack Pakistan’s nuclear programme. With its aerial attack on Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981, Israel acquired aggressive credentials and this continued to fuel Pakistan’s fears about the vulnerability of its nuclear installation at Kahuta.

The late Pakistani President Zia-ul Haq decided to reassure Israel that the Pakistani nuclear programme would not threaten its national interests as the US had close relations with both Pakistan and Israel. Washington is supposed to have aided initial contacts between these two states created on the basis of religion. In a sense, Israel was confident that the US would not allow Pakistan’s nuclear capability to threaten Israel. Perhaps this explains the Israeli position that abstains from any reference to Pakistan in the context of pre-emptive strikes against the nuclear programmes of Iraq, Iran and Libya. As a result, President Zia opted for a back-channel between the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate and Israel’s Mossad through their officers attached to their embassies in Washington DC.

In the 1980s, Pakistan assisted the US in its guerilla war against the erstwhile Soviet forces in Afghanistan, bringing together the ISI and Mossad in this covert war. Cold War politics brought the two aloof states on the same side. For instance, when an Indian Army officer from the hush-hush ‘Establishment 22’ was sent to Tel Aviv for a commercially-run counter-hijack course in the early 1980s, he found a Pakistan Army officer also training there with him. Clearly, it suggested a covert cooperative arrangement between Pakistan and Israel. Equally interesting was Dan Kiesel’s presence in Pakistan as a sports psychotherapist for the Pakistan Cricket Board in the early 1990s. As a German passport-holder, his initial tenure in Pakistan was easy. However, his identity as an Israel-born Jewish person eventually became a sensitive subject in Pakistan’s Senate and his tenure ended prematurely.

Pakistan’s obsession with religion and paranoia over an India-Israel-US nexus makes this alliance a political suicide domestically – a risk no political party in Pakistan has been willing to take. For a long time, the Iran factor and Pakistan’s fraternal ties with the Arab world, specifically its most important ally Saudi Arabia, curtailed Pakistan from considering any positive change in its Israel policy.

Considering that the Arab world and Iran championed the Palestinian cause and anti-Israel rhetoric, it further constrained Islamabad from developing ties with Tel Aviv. However, over the years, anti-Iran sentiment overtook anti-Israel sentiment, and the Gulf countries gravitated toward Israel on account of common enmity with Iran. This opened a window of opportunity for Pakistan to reconsider its Israel policy. Even the late Benazir Bhutto had articulated an interest to normalise Pakistan’s ties with Israel during her election campaign in 2007. Importantly, there are unconfirmed reports about Israel’s interest to sell military technologies to Pakistan in 2010. Several Pakistani scholars have expressed similar opinions in newspaper articles – that Pakistan would benefit from an alliance with Israel. However, the Jewish state remains a heartache for the average Muslim in the Islamic republic.

In October 2018, when rumours of an Israeli jet landing at Rawalpindi surfaced in the media, it created an uproar in Pakistan. Similar outrage was witnessed when Pakistan’s foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, in an interview, expressed an interest to normalise ties with Israel on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference in February 2019. When questioned back home, he was quick to deny the same. The writing on the wall has always been hazy and unclear, and the topic of Pakistan-Israel relations remains clouded with uncertainty. But with the Arab world’s geopolitical gravitation towards Israel, it might be feasible for Islamabad to legitimise its foreign policy gambit in the wider perspective of its policy toward the Arab countries. Thus, New Delhi might have to brace for hyphenation of Pakistan and Israel ties in the near future, much to its discomfort.

(Chengappa teaches International Relations and Strategic Studies at the Christ Deemed to be University, Bengaluru; Divya is a PhD candidate at Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi)

ohh, the source is the best of the best well wisher of Pakistan
 
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its better if pakistan for once start thinking about its foreign policy from its head and not from its @ss!
Their is nooooooo need to do bhund panga with Isreal because it will be really costly for a poor nation Pakistan.
I dont care about Palestine issue because it SHOULD not be OUR focking problem just like kashmir is not our umma chumma arab's broblem!
This is where we have failed, am not too sure where this all started, but i know why we are failing.

Jewish hailing out of Israel have this embedded in them that no matter where they are, where they stand they will always ensure that adequate assistance and support is rendered to fellow jews when asked for.
It is so much embedded that when Spies who were Jews working for others, caught by Israeli intel they ensure that they were not killed or harmed. This courtesy was not extended to others who were not jewish.
These men took pride in bombing villages & civilians just because 'Terrorists' hid in those areas and terrorized the Jewish people.
I guess thats why they have reached this point and we are failing......!!
 
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Israel is not a recognized legitimate country from my side
 
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You can try and go lick Israel's *** on your own, but they will still treat you like sewer rat and kick you out of their way.

Pakistan's problem is not with Israel, problem is Pakistan is a problem for Israel.

You can go and bend your shit and what not but Israel will still come to whoop your *** and that is because they know what they are doing while the ignorants amongst us like you have no clue on what they are doing and what you are supposed to do.
The mentally deprived ones can't get this because it needs a bit of inner enlightenment which you lack and exist on the shallow side of things you do.

And you don't care about Palestine issue or any other issue because you are one of those selfish folk, the same type who have been voting in the looters mafia in our country.
It's not about arab or **** or kashmiri. It's about morality, and doing what is right, but for that you need to have some intellect and morality inside there. Void of which you will let lose statements just like above and think you are being smart while drowning in the misery of ignorance.

I didn't mean this to be offensive but I don't have better words to try to make you people stop being ignorant and sheep to the wrong and lack of information.

Didnt your mom tell you she slept with a jewish men and gave birth to you? And that jewish lovin horney slut now spreads her legs for arabs and thus you can start a good isreali - arab brotherly relationship. ;)
 
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(Chengappa teaches International Relations and Strategic Studies at the Christ Deemed to be University, Bengaluru; Divya is a PhD candidate at Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi)

Do they also represent India in sports of rape and genocide?
 
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This is where we have failed, am not too sure where this all started, but i know why we are failing.

Jewish hailing out of Israel have this embedded in them that no matter where they are, where they stand they will always ensure that adequate assistance and support is rendered to fellow jews when asked for.
It is so much embedded that when Spies who were Jews working for others, caught by Israeli intel they ensure that they were not killed or harmed. This courtesy was not extended to others who were not jewish.
These men took pride in bombing villages & civilians just because 'Terrorists' hid in those areas and terrorized the Jewish people.
I guess thats why they have reached this point and we are failing......!!

Jews are unified. Pakistanis are only unified in their neighborhood and street.

Pakistan is a nation that continues to support fuedal political leaders for their personal gain.

There is no comparison between the maturity of Israeli population and the Pakistani population. There is a day and night difference.

Pakistanis got their land through sacrifice, but haven't learnt to appreciate it.
 
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