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BR: First Batch of locomotives from South Korea ready for shipment

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Good thing they didn't put garlands and assorted flowers petals over it, unlike the Indians when they leased us those 10 rust buckets.


Foaming at the mouth about it too.
In India when cars are sold, they will cover it with flowers and complementary coconuts and turmeric/red paste to draw on cars
 
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They managed to make it look vintage. Sweet

Kind of a modern take on the 1940's US cab locomotive units. Like the GM E & F units, Alco PA's and DL-109's, and most close to newer GM and GE cab units.

GE ET44AC Locomotive
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Wonder who came up with the design. Very blocky and industrial. I am sure these are freight units going by the looks. Look at the enlarged wheels and raised chassis. Anti flood design for sure.

And so it begins, the history of the new 3000 series. :-)
 
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BD should standardize its loco procurement. Buy from max 2 suppliers.
Unnecessary spares have to be kept if too suppliers.
And some details like
HP
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Would be nice.
BD has electrified track or all diesel like Pakistan ?
 
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Can someone tell me when the BR will purchase made in Bangladesh locomotives and railway coaches? 73 years already has past after 1947. Still, these things come from the USA, India, South Korea and Indonesia. It is discouraging that the GoB could not yet mobilize private companies to do this kind of works although BD has more than 160 million people.

Our achievements are too little and too late so far. Future is similarly bleak because there is no plan to involve private companies to build these heavy machines in the country.
 
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BD should standardize its loco procurement. Buy from max 2 suppliers.
Unnecessary spares have to be kept if too suppliers.
And some details like
HP
Type

Would be nice.
BD has electrified track or all diesel like Pakistan ?

All diesel for now.

Planned DAC-CTG High speed railway will be electrified.
 
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All diesel for now.

Planned DAC-CTG High speed railway will be electrified.
Nice. Straight to hsr from diesel. Not impossible but a bit tricky. BD engineers can learn on the job as i am sure the contract will include operation and maintenance by the Chinese for some years.

So 11.4 b usd for 230 km, comes to 49.5 m usd per km.
Indian hsr from ahd to Mumbai is estimated at 15 b usd for 503 km, ie 29.8 m usd per km. Now getting unconfirmed news of a 4 b usd increase. Means around 19 b usd total. Still 37.8 m usd per km.

I think the article has the figures wrong , because our hsr(if it ever gets built) is nearly all elevated. And the civil work in BD cannot be so expensive.
 
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Nice. Straight to hsr from diesel. Not impossible but a bit tricky. BD engineers can learn on the job as i am sure the contract will include operation and maintenance by the Chinese for some years.

So 11.4 b usd for 230 km, comes to 49.5 m usd per km.
Indian hsr from ahd to Mumbai is estimated at 15 b usd for 503 km, ie 29.8 m usd per km. Now getting unconfirmed news of a 4 b usd increase. Means around 19 b usd total. Still 37.8 m usd per km.

I think the article has the figures wrong , because our hsr(if it ever gets built) is nearly all elevated. And the civil work in BD cannot be so expensive.


The government doesn't own much land in Bangladesh, especially in Chittagong, most land is privately owned.


Mega Infrastructural projects are often expensive in Bangladesh due to the long, expensive and drawn-out procedure of Land Acquisition; what we call in Bangla as "Bhoomi Odhigrohon".
 
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The government doesn't own much land in Bangladesh, especially in Chittagong, most land is privately owned.


Mega Infrastructural projects are often expensive in Bangladesh due to the long, expensive and drawn-out procedure of Land Acquisition; what we call in Bangla as "Bhoomi Odhigrohon".
Similar to everywhere except China where the land is owned by the government.
Work on our hsr has not started in a meaningful way because only 50% land has been acquired. Government rules state 70% land has to be acquired to start work on ground. Maharashtra government is a opposition party and is blocking land acquisition.
 
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Nice. Straight to hsr from diesel. Not impossible but a bit tricky. BD engineers can learn on the job as i am sure the contract will include operation and maintenance by the Chinese for some years.

So 11.4 b usd for 230 km, comes to 49.5 m usd per km.
Indian hsr from ahd to Mumbai is estimated at 15 b usd for 503 km, ie 29.8 m usd per km. Now getting unconfirmed news of a 4 b usd increase. Means around 19 b usd total. Still 37.8 m usd per km.

I think the article has the figures wrong , because our hsr(if it ever gets built) is nearly all elevated. And the civil work in BD cannot be so expensive.

Civil work in Bangladesh is quite a bit more expensive (even considering and in spite of massive Chori).

The reason is terrain. In India and Pakistan terrain is mostly flat and all the civil work consists of leveling and grading the land (right of way) to lay track substructure (stone chips then concrete sleepers for HSR). In Bangladesh the land is quite low-lying so right of way has to be BUILT above flooding plains. Sometimes the right of way is on average ten or twelve feet above the surrounding low-lying areas. On top of that the land is criss-crossed by some three hundred major rivers, not considering the smaller tributaries and canals which are themselves as large as what other places in the world call 'rivers'. Each one of these rivers/canals have to be crossed by bridges and culverts, which increases the cost astronomically.

To provide some idea, this is what most of the terrain and right of way looks like, except a small part of NorthWestern Bangladesh. DAC-CTG HSR will be built on a separate and dedicated right of way for at least half of that distance as discussed earlier. HSR will need separate reinforcing of right of way (using concrete slabs/plates) and vigorous daily maintenance, as in the TGV and Japanese Shinkansen scenarios. Things are much easier to do in Pakistan and India terrain-wise, except maybe occasionally dealing with hills and valleys which in the case of Ahmadabad to Mumbai is a relative non-factor.

But let's not get off the topic. We are dealing with Bangladesh scenario here, not India's.

My personal opinion is that if we can get safe right of way and modern EMU rolling stock (similar to Shinkansen, operating at up to 200 KM, with almost no stops) we will be golden, the commute time will be reduced to mere few hours. I don't see the point of going up to 300 KM speeds right away. We have to be practical and moderate our expectations. This is not a political dramabazee exercise. And this is the Indian subcontinent, not Japan. Baby steps first.


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