Boeing Expands India Alliance

[Abingdonboy]

NEW DELHI--Boeing Co. BA -0.23% said Thursday it has expanded a partnership with Bharat Electronics Ltd., 500049.BY +0.72% with the Indian state-run firm contracted to make more components for the F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jet.



Bharat Electronics has been supplying components to Boeing for the Super Hornet as well as the P-8I maritime reconnaissance and antisubmarine aircraft since 2011.

Under the new deal, Bharat Electronics will supply subassemblies including power panels, switch assembly and cockpit console panels for the Super Hornet, Boeing said in a statement.

The value of the new contract wasn't specified.

Dennis Swanson, president of international business development for Boeing Defense, Space & Security in India, said the partnership with Bharat Electronics is part of the company's strategy to work with Indian companies to develop products and expand its business globally.

Boeing and Bharat Electronics have a joint facility in India's technology hub of Bangalore to test military products. Besides Bharat, Boeing also has tie-ups with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd., Infosys Ltd., Wipro Ltd. 507685.BY -1.47% and the Tata Group.

In the past few years, Boeing has received orders from India for supplying ten C-17 Globemaster airlifters and eight P-8I planes. It has also been selected as the preferred vendor to supply 15 Chinook CH-47F heavy-lift helicopters and 22 AH-64D Block-III Apache attack helicopters.

Boeing Expands India Alliance - WSJ.com

 

[maniac@666]

excellent news bro.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Boeing India - Boeing, Bharat Electronics Expand Partnership in India

 

[sancho]

Interesting that more and more parts of the SH will be build in India. They want to sell things to India, they want to benefit from lower production costs in India, but don't want to share techs with India.

 

[Abingdonboy]

but don't want to share techs with India.

It's the US @sancho- what do you expect sir?! They don't share their most sensitive tech with ANYONE.

 

[sancho]

It's the US @sancho- what do you expect sir?! They don't share their most sensitive tech with ANYONE.

They have to learn it, if they want to deal with us and if they want to make some of the big ticket deals, otherwise we simply choose Russian, Europeans and Israeli options.

 

[Abingdonboy]

They have to learn it, if they want to deal with us and if they want to make some of the big ticket deals, otherwise we simply choose Russian, Europeans and Israeli options.

I agree but I think the Indo-US relationship is a LOOONNNGG way from this. There is serious distrust on both sides, it has to be said more so on the Indian side, of the other. India and the US are still pretty early in their relationship.

 

[sancho]

I agree but I think the Indo-US relationship is a LOOONNNGG way from this. There is serious distrust on both sides, it has to be said more so on the Indian side, of the other. India and the US are still pretty early in their relationship.

Lets hope for Hillary.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

They have to learn it, if they want to deal with us and if they want to make some of the big ticket deals, otherwise we simply choose Russian, Europeans and Israeli options.

The Americans are quite sanguine about the Indian stance just as the Indians have factored in the American policies. Nobody is losing any sleep over it. India has other sources for lethal equipment and wants to keep it that. But that will not get in the way of Americans (corporations, not GOTUS) increasingly outsourcing manufacturing work to Indian companies. That is what we really need to develop India as a Aerospace manufacturing hub. That is the first step.

 

[sancho]

The Americans are quite sanguine about the Indian stance just as the Indians have factored in the American policies. Nobody is losing any sleep over it. India has other sources for lethal equipment and wants to keep it that. But that will not get in the way of Americans (corporations, not GOTUS) increasingly outsourcing manufacturing work to Indian companies. That is what we really need to develop India as a Aerospace manufacturing hub. That is the first step.

Still they do have pretty interesting products and reasonable costs and very experienced companies in the aero field, that's why we can't just leave it at the current status and should do our part to increase relations and urge them to offer more according to our requirements. Having one more alternative, makes us less dependent from others and puts us in the better position in negotiations too. The simple fear that we could move to the US side wrt the defence market, made the Russians offer us better deals and focus more on quality and co-development projects that suits us too and currently these developments are the most beneficiary for Indian industry too. The next step should be to get the French / Europeans in more closer, they are still too reluctant with partnerships.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Still they do have pretty interesting products and reasonable costs and very experienced companies in the aero field, that's why we can't just leave it at the current status and should do our part to increase relations and urge them to offer more according to our requirements. Having one more alternative, makes us less dependent from others and puts us in the better position in negotiations too. The simple fear that we could move to the US side wrt the defence market, made the Russians offer us better deals and focus more on quality and co-development projects that suits us too and currently these developments are the most beneficiary for Indian industry too. The next step should be to get the French / Europeans in more closer, they are still too reluctant with partnerships.

It is simply this. India is still wary about getting too close to USA. Too close relations with Uncle Sam is sometimes like the 'kiss of death'. Our neighbors already know that, and we knew American intentions even before they did.
There is a sailor's saying: Keep your yard-arm clear at all times.

 

[sancho]

It is simply this. India is still wary about getting too close to USA. Too close relations with Uncle Sam is sometimes like the 'kiss of death'. Our neighbors already know that, and we knew American intentions even before they did.
There is a sailor's saying: Keep your yard-arm clear at all times.

I also don't want us to be on their side on anything, but I don't want to limit our options either and as long as we have alternatives and are on the better side for negotiations with them, we can keep demanding things. Lets see how it works out for them in the long run.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I also don't want us to be on their side on anything, but I don't want to limit our options either and as long as we have alternatives and are on the better side for negotiations with them, we can keep demanding things. Lets see how it works out for them in the long run.

Far from limiting our options; we are in fact setting up our own "red-lines". We will neither beg nor demand anything from them; simply because we do not need to. We will talk to them; if they listen to our point of view-then great! If they don't then we will speak with and deal with someone else who is more amenable to our point of view. We did exactly that with Uncle Sam in the context of the Civilian Nuclear Deal. Then see who exactly we have been dealing with after that and how! India has been very consistent on this count. No changes are likely.

 

[DARIUS]

Great News!!

 

[sancho]

If they don't then we will speak with and deal with someone else who is more amenable to our point of view. We did exactly that with Uncle Sam in the context of the Civilian Nuclear Deal. Then see who exactly we have been dealing with after that and how! India has been very consistent on this count. No changes are likely.

That actually is an example why we do need closer relations to the US, since there was no alternative, before the US boxed us to an official nuclear power status, even against the will of other NATO partners. Neither Russia, nor UK or France could have done that and all the countries that now wants to deal with us, do it because they are allied with the US (Canada, Australia, Japan...).
The same can be seen wrt to IN and the limited option they have, if we keep the US arms and techs out. No CATOBAR carriers, limited capable Russian MPAs, no capable AWACS, limited options for ASW..., so we don't gain by keeping them away from us, but by letting them get closer according to our conditions. It's a give and take, we have a lot to give and they have a lot to offer, we now need to find compromises wrt the conditions and that's where it lacks so far.