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Bin Laden could be dead, whereabouts unknown: Zardari

Monday, April 27, 2009; 5:52 AM
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan's President Asif Ali Zardari said on Monday that the whereabouts of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden remained a mystery and there was a suspicion that he could be dead.

Speaking to international media, Zardari said U.S. officials had told him that they had no trace of the al Qaeda chief, although they habitually say he is most likely in Pakistan.

Pakistan's own intelligence agencies were no wiser, either, Zardari said.

"There is no news," the president said. "They obviously feel that he does not exist anymore but that's not confirmed, we can't confirm that."

Al Jazeera aired excerpts of an audio recording in March in which the speaker's voice sounded like earlier messages from bin Laden, who has eluded all efforts to catch him since al Qaeda carried out the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

Bin Laden, if he is still alive, turned 52 on March 10, but he is known to suffer from ill-health.

There have been reports that he had died of natural causes in the past, but they have never been corroborated, and security analysts believe intelligence agencies monitoring jihadi websites on the Internet would have picked up some chatter.

(Reporting by Zeeshan Haider; Editing by Simon Cameron-Moore and Dean Yates)

What do pakistani members think of this???How credible is this ???? Is it that Pakistan lost hopes of getting hold of him??

If its true by any chance what should there be any changes in strategy
of WoT??


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bush regime is gone so do obl
LOST IDENTITY: Osama bin laden, the un-told story

The game of politics is a game of trickery and lust for authority. You cannot judge things on their face values. Friends of today may not be friends in deed and enemies may not be enemies in fact. Thomas Hobbs and other realist thinkers rightly pointed towards the selfish nature of human being and his lust for power. History repeats it self as it’s the story of unchangeable human nature. Nations and states are made up of a human that’s why they behave in similar manner as an individual human behaves. A study of human history exposes the cruel, greedy and deceitful human nature and mans fight with his fellows to prove he is absolute.
Few years ago I read a novel, “Wild Justice” written by Wilbur Smith. Its story revolved around a terrorist who left his signature “Caliph” where ever he commits his terror acts. World intelligence agencies and intellectuals considers this “caliph” and his group as Middle Eastern in origin because of his signature but in the end it is revealed that the Mossad and CIA are running this operation and an officer in Mossad is code worded as caliph for the benefit of global capitalism.
While researching on profile and activities of Osama bin Laden for my project in final semester of my Masters degree, the “caliph” of Wilber Smith’s “Wild Justice” came to my mind due to many resemblances and the story of Osama and American and Western War against terrorism became easy for me to understand.
Thanks to Osama bin laden, world is ripe for neo-liberal forces and threats to neoliberalism are being neutralized very effectively. Indeed Osama is a hero but for the coming western generations. The way he look after their interests no one did through out in history.
The war on terror became synonymous to “Wild justice’ when in 2005 a news article from Turkish Governments news Paper ZAMAN passed through my eyes which revealed that Turkish intelligence captured Al-Quaida number 5th in Europe and after interrogating came to conclusion that
“Turkish intelligence specialists agree that there is no such organization as al-Qaeda. Rather, Al-Qaeda is the name of a secret service operation. The concept “fighting terror” is the background of the “low-intensity-warfare” conducted in the mono-polar world order. The subject of this strategy of tension is named as “al-Qaeda [1].”
It was due to courtesy of Osama bin Laden and his AL QUAIDA that when America and west got angry with Sudan due to nationalizing of its oil assets and giving contracts of its oil wells for exploitation to Chinese which in past were in European hands Mr. Osama came forward and along with his alike created conditions ripe for “American and International Humanitarian intervention” in strategic “horn of Africa” and after few years for attacks on Khartoum’s alleged chemical weapon factory in order to force General Omer al Bashier’s government to change its mind.
Similarly when Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan gas pipeline project was conceived Mr. Osama bin laden courteously moved to Afghanistan in order to help out Unocol if “barbarian” Taliban dares to refuse American offers. He very courteously helped America and west to eliminate Iranian influence in Afghanistan and courteously helped in Hazara genocide in Bamiyan and Tajik genocide in Mazar-e- Sharif.
Further more he helped Bush regime in its dream of transformation of American defenses for making it the greatest super power ever by attacking World Trade center and Pentagon.

“…the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor...” [2]
AFP a French news agency surprised the world when it gave a news on 30 October 2001 about OSAMA bin laden who went to Dubai for treatment in American Hospital for treatment in July 2001 and was met by CIA operative who went to US after meeting not to return back[3]
It’s an interesting fact in public Bush regime always abuse and hate Osama bin Laden but in reality cares a lot for him as he is the greatest “strategic asset’ American NeoCons. That is why US forces very courteously gave time to Osama to escape from Torabora and according to coalition forces twice they were stopped by “higher authorities” when they sighted Osama and were going to Attack and kill him.[4]
Similarly when Damadolla was attacked by American drone in 2006 and many innocent people were killed Mr. Osama’s heroic deputy Dr. Aiman al Zawaheri came forward with statement to justify American claims that he was there but left before the attack.
Similarly when Iraq became quagmire for American and allied forces Al-Quaida jumped in and started a sectarian civil war to take away pressure from American forces.
At present when American NeoCons and Arab allies together with Israel are planning a showdown with Iran Al-Quaida and its off shoots are fully coordinating with them. Weather its terrorist actions in Iranian Balochistan and Siestan OR IRANIAN KURDISTAN OR KHUZISTAN by Al-Quaida related Militants against Iranian forces or intelligence gathering by them for Americans. According to Seymour Hearsh revelations that the American NeoCon regime and their allies are financing and equipping Sunni and al Quaida related militants to neutralize the Hezbollah and Syrian regime with understanding with Saudi Arab who have assured this time it will control the islamists[5]. Al Quaida and its off shoots are proving to be strategic asset in American hands.
It’s also interesting to note American and Zionist sponsored president of Palestinian authority, Mahmood Abbas who dissolved the Hamas government on un-Justifiable charges according to wishes of Zionists and Bush regime was very courteously backed indirectly by Aiman Al Zawaheri, Mr. Osama’s chief lieutenant by giving statement in favor of Hamas.
From these few important examples from thousands which appeared in media it becomes clear that where ever and when ever the Bush regime comes under criticism Osama and his deputies come forward to justify American actions.
Recent leaking of news that Osama is hiding in K-2 Region by Al Arabia TV is asking many questions from us, why at the time when Pakistan is slipping away from American hand this news came out? Is it an effort to blackmail the new government because at such a height and with know kidney problems how can OBL survive there? Now it is duty of world citizenry not to bank on capitalist media, who presented an evil tool of Neocon policy for achieving its interests as a Muslim Godfather and grossly equated the Muslims with these blood thirsty fanatics. It’s also a must need for the Ummah to educate them selves and learn to differentiate between friends and enemies. Muslims will keep on suffering unless they educate them selves and start thinking with their minds not with their emotions. History never forgives and soon the real identity of this actual life “caliph” of this real life drama will be revealed.
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1] Al-Qaeda, a Secret Service Operation?
2]“Rebuilding America’s defenses[RAD] on site of Project For New American Century[PNAC] Welcome to the Project for the New American Century,
3] CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July | World news | The Guardian
4] The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - World
5] The Redirection, New Yorker, issue of 2007-03-05
 
this thread can take us to conspiracy theories. the thing is that no one has seen OBL in last 6 7 yrs (after tora bora). given this, no one can say where exactly he his. either he died in tora bora attacks or someone is hiding him
 
Osama bin Laden is fast becoming the "Loch Ness Monster"...
there is a high probability that he is dead...i think after 2 more decades he will have to be considered dead based on his health...hardly unlikely he will live to be more than 70 in his condition and ailment...i do not think anyone will see Osama again...but then again many still claim to see the Loch Ness Monster...
 
I saw OBL on T.V. this weekend. Took in the Yanks-Red Sox in Boston. Sittin' next to Elvis behind home plate.

Looked good to me. Had a cold beer and a blond hottie and was kickin' it. Must be a honeymoon with his latest wifie...:lol:
 
I saw OBL on T.V. this weekend. Took in the Yanks-Red Sox in Boston. Sittin' next to Elvis behind home plate.

Looked good to me. Had a cold beer and a blond hottie and was kickin' it. Must be a honeymoon with his latest wifie...:lol:

he shouldnt be drinking with his bad kidney

S-2 bad on your part:tsk: not to offer a shot of tequilla to pep up his miserable life? what with stringent laws dictating consumption of alcohol
 
"S-2 bad on your part not to offer a shot of tequilla to pep up his miserable life?"

Tequila? Lebowski indulges white russians or embraces better living through modern chemistry.

Then again, tequila and mescal are the only hallucinogens that I know which come bottled and sealed for your protection at 80 proof.:agree:

It's all good.:D
 
"S-2 bad on your part not to offer a shot of tequilla to pep up his miserable life?"

Tequila? Lebowski indulges white russians or embraces better living through modern chemistry.

Then again, tequila and mescal are the only hallucinogens that I know which come bottled and sealed for your protection at 80 proof.:agree:

It's all good.:D

czech absinth ...... that is 100% by volume:rofl:
 
Who knows after Zardari statement bin laden may appear to proof Pakistanis are wrong. :woot:
 
And what were Mr. Zardari's comments worth?
What has it done? It only added more + points to the conspiracy theories and it increased confusion around Binladens whereabouts.
Hell, Zardari should know better, I mean, people find it hard to take him credible, especially after his history and his shaky term as President right now, so what's the point in "guessing" that Binladen "could" be dead.
It's not about Binladen anyway, he is just a mere ant in a huge Taliban colony.
 
Does any body know this fact that OBL is not noted as a suspect on the 9/11 file with the FBI? The FBI have said that they have no tangible evidence that OBL carried out this attack.
Araz
 
Does any body know this fact that OBL is not noted as a suspect on the 9/11 file with the FBI? The FBI have said that they have no tangible evidence that OBL carried out this attack.
Araz

ya FBI doesnt but CIA does:smokin:
 
CIA already put US in war with Iraq and the clam of CAI Iraq having weapon of mass destruction was proven wrong after killing of innocent Iraqis. CAI and FBI are useless agencies but give real life drama . RAW should learn from them .:pop:
 

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