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I finally got the chance to sit down and watch Ben Shapiro’s speech last night at Stanford University in which he attacked the Dissident Right.
Far from just attacking Nick Fuentes and the Groypers who are showing up at conservative events to ask the speakers some penetrating questions, he showed a great familiarity with our scene and attacked all the different factions associated with it. He attacked the AmNats, the Ironybros, the incels, Richard Spencer and the Nietzscheans, the atheists and even the Alt-Lite. He even seemed to know the difference between Pepes, Groypers, Apus and Marvs:
Nick Fuentes reacted to the speech on Dlive:
We’re also just as familiar with Conservatism, Inc.
While there is an amazing diversity of voices in the Dissident Right which differs on everything from religion to ethnicity to class to strategy to tactics to our opinions on various personalities within the Far Right, the one thing we all agree on is the rejection of Conservatism, Inc. Virtually everyone has their reasons to hate Ben Shapiro and the Center Right.
Nick Fuentes was about my son’s age when I began to hate Ben Shapiro and the Center Right. I was in college at Auburn University at the time. I remember Ben Shapiro as being one of the loudest, most obnoxious and arrogant neocon cheerleaders for the Iraq War during the George W. Bush administration. He supported purging Pat Buchanan from the conservative movement. He supported the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from Israel.
There were only a few of us around back then who had these grievances against Ben Shapiro. This was before the Alt-Right was even a thing when Americans were eating Freedom Fries and the Center Right was at the apex of its power and influence. We watched in disgust as these “small government conservatives” set the Middle East on fire and as the housing bubble popped and Wall Street crashed due to their deregulation of the American economy. We watched as millions of illegal aliens swarmed across the border while the GOP promised to BUILD THE WALL in 2006. We watched as George W. Bush was reelected on the basis of his opposition to gay marriage in 2004 only to watch the Republican-controlled Supreme Court legalize it and mainstream conservatives embrace both homosexuality and gay marriage in the Trump era.
I’ve been watching people like Ben Shapiro for almost 20 years now. I have seen what they have done with all the power which has been bestowed upon them in the past ten election cycles. I can tell you exactly what it is that they want to conserve too: the American Empire and the liberal world order it upholds abroad, Israel, low taxes and regulations on the wealthy and multinational corporations. They also absorb and conserve every social revolution launched by the Left. These are the fruits of the Center Right and its ideology which is conservative liberalism.
The Center Right is currently styling itself as the champions of free speech and as the opponents of transgenderism and gender non-conforming ideology which has recently become a battle cry for progressive liberalism. Assuredly, the Center Right will exploit the backlash against Antifa and Big Tech censorship and transgenderism and milk it for all it is worth while losing on both of those fronts in the culture war and within a few years opposition to free speech and transgenderism will be fully absorbed into conservatism and those who dissent from the status quo will be marginalized. None of this will matter either so long as low tax rates for the wealthy, high levels of military spending and OUR GREATEST ALLY is conserved. Does anyone doubt that the future of conservative liberalism is promoting drag queens for low taxes and Israel?
Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk don’t have any principled objection to “identity politics.” Conservative liberals embrace identity politics for every group but their own White Christian base. This is because only White identity is illegitimate under the framework of multiculturalism and political correctness which is what is being conserved by the Center Right. White identity was perfectly normal here in the South for three centuries before the Civil Rights Movement. In contrast, “Judeo-Christian” was created in the mid-20th century. Virtually all of the -isms and -phobias like opposing “anti-Semitism” which have become norms which are enforced by mainstream conservatives are a product of the television era.
The Center Right is “conserving” a false narrative of American history. In this narrative, America is a “Nation of Immigrants.” It is an idea. It is a “proposition nation.” The United States does not have an ethnocultural core especially one that is White and Christian and conservatism IS NOT about conserving the White Christian social order. The core of the “American Founding” are these timeless Platonic abstractions. Americanism is a creed which anyone can subscribe to and we have “progressed” as a nation as we have “lived up to these ideals.” This liberal cosmopolitan vision of America was created in the early 20th century by a group called the New York Intellectuals and only became hegemonic after World War II. Ben Shapiro and conservative liberals are not conserving America, but what America has become since the 1940s and this version of the Right lacks the capacity to conserve the ethnocultural core of the American nation.
Nick Fuentes can be a punk *** kid with a big mouth on YouTube. He can have an army of Catholic Groypers and Ironybros who live with their parents. They might not even like us. And yet, the central accusation hurled by the Dissident Right against the Center Right which is that it amounts to nothing more than conserving liberalism and is therefore incapable of arresting or reversing these dramatic social changes which are transforming our country would still be true. It was true before any of these people were even born. It is true of all Western countries, not just this one. Conservative liberalism is bankrupt and more people than ever know it.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2019/11/08/ben-shapiro-attacks-the-dissident-right/
Far from just attacking Nick Fuentes and the Groypers who are showing up at conservative events to ask the speakers some penetrating questions, he showed a great familiarity with our scene and attacked all the different factions associated with it. He attacked the AmNats, the Ironybros, the incels, Richard Spencer and the Nietzscheans, the atheists and even the Alt-Lite. He even seemed to know the difference between Pepes, Groypers, Apus and Marvs:
Nick Fuentes reacted to the speech on Dlive:
We’re also just as familiar with Conservatism, Inc.
While there is an amazing diversity of voices in the Dissident Right which differs on everything from religion to ethnicity to class to strategy to tactics to our opinions on various personalities within the Far Right, the one thing we all agree on is the rejection of Conservatism, Inc. Virtually everyone has their reasons to hate Ben Shapiro and the Center Right.
Nick Fuentes was about my son’s age when I began to hate Ben Shapiro and the Center Right. I was in college at Auburn University at the time. I remember Ben Shapiro as being one of the loudest, most obnoxious and arrogant neocon cheerleaders for the Iraq War during the George W. Bush administration. He supported purging Pat Buchanan from the conservative movement. He supported the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from Israel.
There were only a few of us around back then who had these grievances against Ben Shapiro. This was before the Alt-Right was even a thing when Americans were eating Freedom Fries and the Center Right was at the apex of its power and influence. We watched in disgust as these “small government conservatives” set the Middle East on fire and as the housing bubble popped and Wall Street crashed due to their deregulation of the American economy. We watched as millions of illegal aliens swarmed across the border while the GOP promised to BUILD THE WALL in 2006. We watched as George W. Bush was reelected on the basis of his opposition to gay marriage in 2004 only to watch the Republican-controlled Supreme Court legalize it and mainstream conservatives embrace both homosexuality and gay marriage in the Trump era.
I’ve been watching people like Ben Shapiro for almost 20 years now. I have seen what they have done with all the power which has been bestowed upon them in the past ten election cycles. I can tell you exactly what it is that they want to conserve too: the American Empire and the liberal world order it upholds abroad, Israel, low taxes and regulations on the wealthy and multinational corporations. They also absorb and conserve every social revolution launched by the Left. These are the fruits of the Center Right and its ideology which is conservative liberalism.
The Center Right is currently styling itself as the champions of free speech and as the opponents of transgenderism and gender non-conforming ideology which has recently become a battle cry for progressive liberalism. Assuredly, the Center Right will exploit the backlash against Antifa and Big Tech censorship and transgenderism and milk it for all it is worth while losing on both of those fronts in the culture war and within a few years opposition to free speech and transgenderism will be fully absorbed into conservatism and those who dissent from the status quo will be marginalized. None of this will matter either so long as low tax rates for the wealthy, high levels of military spending and OUR GREATEST ALLY is conserved. Does anyone doubt that the future of conservative liberalism is promoting drag queens for low taxes and Israel?
Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk don’t have any principled objection to “identity politics.” Conservative liberals embrace identity politics for every group but their own White Christian base. This is because only White identity is illegitimate under the framework of multiculturalism and political correctness which is what is being conserved by the Center Right. White identity was perfectly normal here in the South for three centuries before the Civil Rights Movement. In contrast, “Judeo-Christian” was created in the mid-20th century. Virtually all of the -isms and -phobias like opposing “anti-Semitism” which have become norms which are enforced by mainstream conservatives are a product of the television era.
The Center Right is “conserving” a false narrative of American history. In this narrative, America is a “Nation of Immigrants.” It is an idea. It is a “proposition nation.” The United States does not have an ethnocultural core especially one that is White and Christian and conservatism IS NOT about conserving the White Christian social order. The core of the “American Founding” are these timeless Platonic abstractions. Americanism is a creed which anyone can subscribe to and we have “progressed” as a nation as we have “lived up to these ideals.” This liberal cosmopolitan vision of America was created in the early 20th century by a group called the New York Intellectuals and only became hegemonic after World War II. Ben Shapiro and conservative liberals are not conserving America, but what America has become since the 1940s and this version of the Right lacks the capacity to conserve the ethnocultural core of the American nation.
Nick Fuentes can be a punk *** kid with a big mouth on YouTube. He can have an army of Catholic Groypers and Ironybros who live with their parents. They might not even like us. And yet, the central accusation hurled by the Dissident Right against the Center Right which is that it amounts to nothing more than conserving liberalism and is therefore incapable of arresting or reversing these dramatic social changes which are transforming our country would still be true. It was true before any of these people were even born. It is true of all Western countries, not just this one. Conservative liberalism is bankrupt and more people than ever know it.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2019/11/08/ben-shapiro-attacks-the-dissident-right/