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Beijing reaches out to Delhi to safeguard its interests

NEW DELHI: Early this year, China reached out to India to start a dialogue on Afghanistan. This led to China, Russia and India meeting together for the first time in Moscow on February 20 to consult on Afghanistan's future. This is the second trilateral dialogue India has started on Afghanistan — the first being with the US and Afghanistan that met a day before the China-Russia-India trilateral.

When the Chinese leadership first approached India, New Delhi's reaction was "why now?" The Chinese response was that they had $3 billion in investments in Afghanistan. Indian investments are over $2 billion. China's approach to Afghanistan has largely been driven by its all-weather ally, Pakistan, thus far. But, China has expressed growing alarm about the possible return of the Taliban in Afghanistan that appears to be part of Pakistan's design. Beijing is anxious about the export of extremism and terrorism into their restive Xinjiang province.

Besides, the uncertainty over the 2014 US drawdown of troops has spooked all stakeholders. This has led to the every body hedging every possible outcome. US diplomatic sources said America and China are locked in their own conversation on Afghanistan. India is engaging with Russia, China and Iran. In addition, India is ready to hold talks with Pakistan on Kabul's future, but there is no interest from the Pakistani side.

For Russia, the problem is more proximate. The prospect of Taliban and its ideology travelling into the central Asian states remains a matter of apprehension. Russia has been trying to befriend Pakistan for some time now, to incentivize Islamabad to use its influence to prevent Taliban ingress into these countries. Russian President Vladimir Putin even contemplated a maiden visit to Pakistan last year, which could have seriously affected the India-Russia relationship.

However, in recent months, the renewed push by western governments to accommodate the Taliban in "reconciliation" — a power-sharing arrangement in Kabul — has complicated matters for all three countries. India is deeply opposed to the reconciliation process because it believes Taliban's extremism would overwhelm all other shades of opinion, pushing Afghanistan back to the 1990s. But Russia and China are fearful of what they believe could become a US-Taliban "deal" that allows continued American presence in Afghanistan. This they reckoned to be "destabilizing" for their future.

But for India, the Chinese request was also interpreted to mean that they may also be hedging against a Pakistan-led approach to Afghanistan. Pakistan has not shown any move to divorce itself from the Taliban. Islamabad continues to harbour Afghan Taliban leaders in its territory, despite much pleading by the West to release them for talks with the Karzai government. A Taliban office has been in operation in Doha, Qatar, for some time, without the reconciliation process making much headway largely because of the lack of credible Taliban leaders to talk with.



There is talk of the US trying to directly reach out to Taliban leaders, an effort that is being replicated by UK, France and Germany. The upshot of all of this is that the Karzai government has been brought to the same level as the Taliban — it is being treated as just another faction instead of being a legitimate government in Kabul. To many countries, the legitimization of the Taliban is complete. Diplomatic sources observe that if in 2001, there were only three countries, which had recognized the Taliban, there are many more in 2013.

Afghan president Hamid Karzai is swinging wildly between trying to "accommodate" the Pakistani Army's version of the Taliban's return, to openly criticizing them. After the head of the Pakistan Ulema Council, Tahir Mehmood Ashrafi, was quoted as saying suicide attacks in Afghanistan were legitimate, Karzai said on Sunday, "Afghanistan wants a real struggle against terrorism and wants the Pakistani government to realize that both our nations are burning in the same fire.

"The Pakistani government has an essential and important role in putting out this fire," he sad. "We see that practical steps are not being taken to fight terrorism," Karzai added.
 
But, China has expressed growing alarm about the possible return of the Taliban in Afghanistan that appears to be part of Pakistan's design. Beijing is anxious about the export of extremism and terrorism into their restive Xinjiang province.

As the members here are always keen to point out, it is all about national interests.

And stability in Xinjiang is a thousand times more important than losing a paltry $3 billion investment in Afghanistan.
 
As the members here are always keen to point out, it is all about national interests.

And stability in Xinjiang is a thousand times more important than losing a paltry $3 billion investment in Afghanistan.



I see you're @ss kissing up to the Indians now. You're an Indian apologist advocating China build ties with India, that makes you an Indian lover. From now on I will call you Chindian. You also advocate China expand economic ties with India disrespect to southern Tibet. Sad how you have become a tool of India and selling out your country's interest to foreigners.


How much did they pay you?
 
I see you're @ss kissing up to the Indians now. You're an Indian apologist advocating China build ties with India, that makes you an Indian lover. From now on I will call you Chindian. You also advocate China expand economic ties with India disrespect to southern Tibet. Sad how you have become a tool of India and selling out your country's interest to foreigners.


How much did they pay you?

So says the American @ss-kisser. :lol:

And by the way, my post didn't say ANYTHING about India at all. :rofl: It was the article in the OP that said "Beijing" was reaching out to Delhi. Not me, but Beijing.

But now that you've asked, you know what? Do you see Iranians and Indians letting the Americans bomb their country day and night, and then kissing their @ss for it?

They have something called SOVEREIGNTY. Nobody respects an American puppet state, why not just talk to America instead?
 
So says the American @ss-kisser. :lol:

And by the way, my post didn't say ANYTHING about India at all. :rofl:

But now that you've asked, you know what? Do you see Iranians and Indians letting the Americans bomb their country day and night, and then kissing their @ss for it?

They have something called SOVEREIGNTY. Nobody respects an American puppet state, why not just talk to America instead?


Two faced Chindian as I expected you're an Indian lover. Too bad you kiss up to those who will be bombing you in the future with Russian weapons, since they now have missiles that can reach inland China and Hong Kong you can expect a bomb to be dropped on your head in the next China-India war.

As for GoP everybody knows they are traitors just like you're a traitor to your own country for selling out to Indians lol. How much did they pay you? Was it dollars?
 
Two faced Chindian as I expected you're an Indian lover. Too bad you kiss up to those who will be bombing you in the future with Russian weapons, since they now have missiles that can reach inland China and Hong Kong you can expect a bomb to be dropped on your head in the next China-India war.

As for GoP everybody knows they are traitors just like you're a traitor to your own country for selling out to Indians lol. How much did they pay you? Was it dollars?

Learn to read PAmerican. :lol:

"Beijing reaches out to Delhi", "When the Chinese leadership first approached India"... etc.

It is the Chinese leadership that has done this. :rofl: We are not an American puppet state, we serve only our own interests, not yours and certainly not America's.
 
Learn to read PAmerican. :lol:

"Beijing reaches out to Delhi", "When the Chinese leadership first approached India"... etc.

It is the Chinese leadership that has done this. :rofl: We are not an American puppet state, we serve only our own interests, not yours and certainly not America's.


Yeah China should just accept Arunachal Pradesh is apart of India besides people there want to be with India. Don't bring up Kashmir as Kashmiris want to be with Pakistan.

"Beijing reaches out to New Delhi" because Beijing is desperate that it will even accept a helping hand from an enemy in Xinjiang, how pathetic a $7.3 trillion economy pleading for help from India. You need help with Taiwan and South China Sea too?

Besides you Chinese were built up by America, American companies gave your jobs and factories and a manufacturing base. Hundreds of millions of Chinese literally are owned and work for American companies and consumers. American companies treat your people like crap and could careless about their workers rights you're just cheap Chinese labor.

Funny you talk about how independent of America you are, when hundreds of millions of Chinese are slave laborers to American companies and want to work for American companies. Your consumer exports are there because America need cheap products, that's where you come in.
 
Well its common sense aint it ?

If I am not wrong the Chinese have invested massively in some copper mines in central afg. So to safeguard that and in addition stop the Uyghur militants from finding a safe haven in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, they need to work together with India-Russia-Iran in the future. This is a part of that and additionally anything that brings about some extra business is always welcome.
 
Yeah China should just accept Arunachal Pradesh is apart of India besides people there want to be with India. Don't bring up Kashmir as Kashmiris want to be with Pakistan.

Don't forget you sold a piece of it to us, after Ayub Khan changed his mind about supporting India against China. Though I'm sure that Ayub Khan's "joint-defence" between Pakistan-India against China would have been funny.

"Beijing reaches out to New Delhi" because Beijing is desperate that it will even accept a helping hand from an enemy in Xinjiang, how pathetic a $7.3 trillion economy pleading for help from India. You need help with Taiwan and South China Sea too?

Besides you Chinese were built up by America, American companies gave your jobs and factories and a manufacturing base. Hundreds of millions of Chinese literally are owned and work for American companies and consumers. American companies treat your people like crap and could careless about their workers rights you're just cheap Chinese labor.

Beijing is desperate, right. :lol:

And you don't see us watching Bollywood like you guys obsessively do. In fact the Pakistani Army recently said that their soldiers should take down all their "Indian Bollywood" posters. Now tell me about your theory again. :P
 
Don't forget you sold a piece of it to us, after Ayub Khan changed his mind about supporting India against China. Though I'm sure that Ayub Khan's "joint-defence" between Pakistan-India against China would have been funny.



Beijing is desperate, right. :lol:

And you don't see us watching Bollywood like you guys obsessively do. In fact the Pakistani Army recently said that their soldiers should take down all their "Indian Bollywood" posters. Now tell me about your theory again. :P



In fact the Pakistani Army recently said that their soldiers should take down all their "Indian Bollywood" posters.

The posters were of women not necessarily "Bollywood".


Chinese Ambassador says Bollywood films are popular in China

"Bollywood films are very popular in China. They can compete with the Hollywood hits. '3 Idiots' particularly became very popular in our country," said Chinese Ambassador Zhang Yan who interacted with an audience assembled at the opening of the first 'India-China Centre' here this week.

Bollywood films are popular in China - Times Of India


I personally don't watch Indian films but I know you do as one time you were asking Indian members for which Indian films to watch lol...
 
^^^ Obviously the Chinese ambassador would say that. :lol:

And yes, some are shown on local TV channels with Chinese subtitles or dubbing. But there is no comparison in terms of obsession, you guys watch nothing else, and even have posters of them everywhere.
 
Actually our economy is $8.3 trillion now.

My city alone (with a population of only 7 million) has a bigger GDP than Pakistan.

So let's not go for the GDP angle.

You're an idiot I'm not comparing Pakistani GDP to Chinese GDP, what I said was an economy of $7.3 trillion (could be more) is asking for help from India on it's own domestic issue, which is just pathetic and shows your insecurity over Xinjiang.
 
You're an idiot I'm not comparing Pakistani GDP to Chinese GDP, what I said was an economy of $7.3 trillion (could be more) is asking for help from India on it's own domestic issue, which is just pathetic and shows your insecurity over Xinjiang.

Yeah we don't like terrorists, who does?

Xinjiang's border regions are a risk, we don't need any of that stuff that you and the Americans (or are you the same thing) seem to love so much.
 
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