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Behold the ‘beauty’ of democracy: death by a thousand debts | Pakistan Today

We drank wine on credit knowing that our drunkenness would bear bitter fruit one day



The subheading above is Ghalib’s couplet: Qarz key peetay thay mein aur kehtay thay keh haan, rung lavay gey hamari faqa masti aik din.

This is a very important article. Don’t get frightened after reading it; instead start thinking. Time to break idols again. The idols are your leaders political and non-political whom you mindlessly follow, tolerate and bring to office. Time to shed alien systems and adopt native ones that protect you and your progeny. Think about your future and your children’s future. Don’t run away cowardly with your tail between your legs. Keep faith in God and remember that Pakistan is yours and mine, not of our self-aggrandising elite. Without us the people, especially the best amongst us, we don’t stand a chance if we leave Pakistan to rapacious morons. Time to stand up and be counted.

I ended last week’s article with the Muslim and Judaic salutation: ‘Peace Be Upon You’. There was both an element of warning and of sarcasm there. The warning is that we have dug ourselves into a hole so deep on the peak of our mountain of debt so high. I was being sarcastic about our inability to break free of our mental colonisation. As to peace, I hope we achieve peace of mind and soul on earth, but more likely we are heading for the peace of the grave. The fault lies with us, not our stars, because we elect governments that have been persistently digging our debt hole deeper and with the earth we throw out creating a huge un-returnable debt mountain from which it is well nigh impossible to climb down without a miracle, provided we have the vision to see a miracle when and if it comes. We have crossed the ‘event horizon’ of an economic black hole from which there is no known way of getting out except by invoking the odious debt law, which we rightly can on grounds that lenders knowingly gave loans to corrupt governments that grabbed power by rigging the ballot. They were aware that the loans could never even be serviced, forget repaid. Look at Greece and some other EU countries.

The following should give you a clearer idea:

  1. According to the official State Bank website, by June 15, 2015, Pakistan had accumulated a total external and domestic debt equivalent to US$195.647 billion. Of this $76 billion is external debt and rest is rupee debt. By now external debt is over a billion more. Our total debt stands at about 72.7 per cent of official GDP, Rs27,383.7 billion or US$269.02 billion whereas it shouldn’t be above 60 per cent under the Fiscal Responsibility Law passed during Musharraf’s time. Where is parliament?
  2. Now yet another illiterate, callous and perfidious government is asking us to celebrate the IMF agreeing to release another tranche of $502 million from its ongoing programme that will end next year.
  3. Add to this the questionable recent Eurobond issue of $500 million on which we will pay annual interest of 8.25 per cent for 10 years.
  4. Add too the money regularly owed by government to pensioners, domestic bonds and securities and suchlike, and the picture gets worse.
  5. So pathetic has our condition become that the IMF loans we now take are used primarily to pay interest on previous loans, making our debt mountain higher than the Himalayas and our hole deeper than the oceans.
  6. Assuming a population of 190 million every Pakistani carries a debt burden of about Rs104,000 on his emaciated shoulders – probably more. Who is going to service it? Who is ever going to repay it? How, considering revenue collection is static at best or falling, overseas ‘Remittances-Plus’ from Pakistanis working in the Middle East that helped cover a large chunk of our trade deficit are declining due to the oil price dropping drastically and the steep decline in the reserves of Saudi Arabia and Gulf oil-producing countries. I call it ‘remittances-plus’ because the plus refers to black money transferred overseas by corrupt Pakistanis and then ‘remitted’ back home to ‘whiten’ it. Now the ‘plus’ too is declining due to the army’s accountability drive and the economy grinding to a halt.
  7. Saudi Arabia has worked up a fiscal deficit for the first time and at this rate its reserves will deplete in five years. So too the Gulf countries. Unless they drastically reduce expenditures they will soon go belly up.
  8. Expenditure reduction means shelving projects and workers being thrown out of jobs. The first will be Pakistanis so expect a huge influx home with its concomitant pressures and a huge reduction in remittances.
  9. Exports are declining and the trade gap is increasing. Remittances used to cover the trade deficit. What now, considering there is no new productive export-led direct investment, not least due to declining gas, electricity, water availability and other infrastructure.


Assuming a population of 190 million every Pakistani carries a debt burden of about Rs104,000 on his emaciated shoulders – probably more


You may well ask how we managed to build up such a huge debt mountain? Well, our genius finance minister did say soon after taking over that we will take loans to reduce our debt stock, whatever that gibberish means.

  1. When our external debt was $65 billion, $42 billion was accumulated during the two periods of sham democracy, the first in the Nineties when Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif ruled in turns and the second now since 2008 in which Benazir’s husband Asif Zardari ruled the first five years and now Nawaz Sharif has done in two-and-a-half years and counting. Compared to this, we re-profiled our debt and bade goodbye to the IMF in the Musharraf-Shaukat era. Who then, I ask, should be tried for treason? Zardari’s previous government (2008-2013) returned us into IMF clutches after one of its finance ministers had grandly proclaimed that he’ll go to the IMF “over my dead body”. Now our debt is so high that there’s no getting out. Three cheers for sham democracy. Our demented politicians and equally demented media tell us that this irrelevant election or that strengthens ‘democracy’, not knowing what democracy is, that this is not it, it is ‘Lootocracy’ which has brought us to the precipice.
  2. Government and private sector idiots have foisted the illusion in our minds that our salvation lies in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. How, when $11 billion for building the road is a government-to-government loan and $34 billion will be loans from private banks, probably Chinese, to private sector Chinese-Pakistani joint ventures mostly comprising coal-fired power projects that will add to pollution and climate change. Worse, we will import the coal from China. The Chinese partners will take all their profits, if any, to China while the cost of coal from China will be paid by Pakistan. Has anyone considered the quantum of the foreign exchange outflow and what it will do to our balance of payments? Methinks only the road will be built, which will be good, and the private sector projects will fall by the roadside, which will also be good.
As government increasingly fails to deliver and people get poorer, we have an economic meltdown brewing that could lead to explosion and then implosion that not all your nuclear weapons or huge military can stop, as witnessed the late Soviet Union with 28,000 nuclear warheads. The rupee is under pressure and declining, and with it purchasing power. Left alone the rupee could fall through the floor. People are getting poorer by the day in an economy that is now comatose. All the big talk of a decline in inflation and other balderdash comes to naught before our humungous debt mountain. That is what I meant when I said last week that “anger begets revolution, revolution begets salvation”. I should have qualified it with ‘hopefully’. It can also lead to disintegration. We are celebrating but are in for a shock, thinking of petty things like elections, marriages, divorces and other such claptrap. Wake up, friend. Look at the tournament, not just one small match. Look at things that really matter.

Is there a possibility that when this IMF programme expires a new one may not be forthcoming and we will be up shit creek without a paddle? After all, we have been missing even revised targets. Not a chance. The programme will be renewed because the idea is to keep us digging the hole we are in and making our debt mountain higher until we have mortgaged our soul to the IMF. Then they will demand their quid pro quo before they give us food, not unlike the Mughal King Aurangzeb who forced his brother Prince Murad and nephew Sulaiman Shikoh imprisoned in Gwalior Fort to first drink a glass of opium every morning before they were given food until they became blithering idiots.

What quid pro quo? This is just my conjecture, but I think that the quid pro quos are obvious:

  1. Castrate Pakistan’s nuclear programme and weapons, especially tactical, because they are a clear and present danger to the Indian army from making any ingress into Pakistan in a conventional war that will negate their ‘Cold Start’ doctrine. We can nuke it in the small area they have entered in Pakistan and claim that we nuked our own land, not someone else’s. If we agree to this the explosion could come even before the economic meltdown reaches our kitchens.
  2. Ease up on our friendship with China and budding relationship with Russia.
  3. Come into India’s orbit of influence and let them deal with Afghanistan, the Indian Ocean and the neighbourhood.
  4. And, of course, help America in Afghanistan. But America seems confused: it simultaneously tells us to kill the Afghan Taliban and at the same time to bring them to the negotiating table, a crass contradiction. Then they also say that the Afghan Taliban are their partners in peace. Most confusing. Make up your minds, friends. Know what you want. Do you?


So how can we stop digging and get out of our debt trap? No one except the people can do this and the only way they can do it is by rising



Fanciful? Such things always look fanciful before they happen. If I had told you on 8/11 that dastardly events were going to happen the next day on 9/11, terrorists ramming two commercial airliners into New York’s World Trade Towers and one into the Pentagon, you would have said that Humayun has finally gone loopy and the loony bin beckons. But, yes, fanciful, because many such designs have led to a blowback that damaged the designers at least as much as the designed. Who could have thought that NATO and the US-led coalitions would lose wars against puny Afghanistan and Iraq, become trapped there without a way out except to go in again and get trapped even more in the Middle East and make such a mess of western economies as a consequence. It’s a military, economic and geo-strategic trap no different than our debt trap. It’s a trap they laid for others and got caught in too. It’s a nightmare.

China? Sure it has a large enough reserve to pay off our entire debt, but why would it? Or America write it off? Perhaps, but only they take our soul and also take with it our freedom, independence and sovereignty with it as collateral. We could become another de facto province of China or America, or even colony if you like. For beginners, they would take all our Public Sector Enterprises and more. They would literally own us and our country. I you want it, good luck, but let me tell you that China might prove to be toughest owners. Take your pick. Whoever pays off our debt and takes our irons out of the hellfire with also buy us lock, stock and barrel. If you want that, go ahead. I only hope I am not alive on the day that happens.

So how can we stop digging and get out of our debt trap? No one except the people can do this and the only way they can do it is by rising. It could happen if things continue declining. The army certainly cannot. The generals will only take over again if they have no option but to save the country that they are sworn to protect, but they will find themselves standing on the peak of a huge debt mountain without an iota of an idea how to descend and be stuck there without oxygen. The other possibility is for the other organised force to take over, the terrorists under some brand name like TTP or ISIS. Take your pick.

I feel so sorry for our children with amazing potential that our misdeeds are not allowing to come to full fruition. I apologise to them for the mess our generation is leaving them with and ruining their future. I’m so sorry.
 
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He thinks that 9/11 is one day away from 8/11? :o:

The rumor is the author is a bit of a fan of whiskey. But he is bang on the button on the overall message, barring glitches like the one you pointed out.

I am still waiting for Pakistani members, especially those that are knowledgeable on the issues to present their reactions and comments.
 
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If Pakistan is using most of it's debt to repay the previous debts then it is a serious problem.
 
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Alarming situation but the situation of Pakistan and India on this front is almost similar

External Debt per Capita - by country

Problem is:

India has a much higher GDP per capita and economies of scale to service the debt....so as % of per capita income, its lower than Pakistan's.

Growth rate of India is also much higher, so future margins for servicing and managing new debt are much better

Much higher tax collection rate for India to service the govt debt with decent margins. This will improve even more with GST.

Indian bonds are investment grade unlike Pakistan which are classified as "junk" still by S&P.

Also the author is looking at the trends regarding the CPEC and so on which may actually worsen the debt situation for Pakistan drastically in return for somewhat speculative economic returns....given the fine print such as using Chinese coal and high interest rates etc.
 
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Problem is:

India has a much higher GDP per capita and economies of scale to service the debt....so as % of per capita income, its lower than Pakistan's.

Growth rate of India is also much higher, so future margins for servicing and managing new debt are much better

Much higher tax collection rate for India to service the govt debt with decent margins. This will improve even more with GST.

Indian bonds are investment grade unlike Pakistan which are classified as "junk" still by S&P.

Also the author is looking at the trends regarding the CPEC and so on which may actually worsen the debt situation for Pakistan drastically in return for somewhat speculative economic returns....given the fine print such as using Chinese coal and high interest rates etc.

*Indian GDP per capita is not much higher than Pakistan,i believe the difference is less than $200 and if Pakistan let say adjust the base year to 2010-11 next year,it might even surpass Indian GDD per capita income.
*Yes growth rate is higher
*Much higher tax collection?Please post indian tax revenue both direct and indirect tax value.Pakistan revenue growth rate from the past 2 years is 16% and 15% respectively and this year so far 19%-20%.
 
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Indian GDP per capita is not much higher than Pakistan,i believe the difference is less than $200 and if Pakistan let say adjust the base year to 2010-11 next year,it might even surpass Indian GDD per capita income.

I doubt that. Let's see I guess.

The difference is about 300 bucks. 1427 to 1688. Thats about 18% difference on per capita terms from Pak to India.

A base year correction is not going to gain 18%. Maybe a few % points.

Much higher tax collection?Please post indian tax revenue both direct and indirect tax value.Pakistan revenue growth rate from the past 2 years is 16% and 15% respectively and this year so far 19%-20%.

Tax-GDP ratio is about 15 - 18% depending on the year. For Pakistan its about 10 - 11%

List of countries by tax revenue as percentage of GDP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

India's is also increasing very quickly these years, outstripping GDP growth so the ratio is increasing just like Pakistan's though from a larger base ratio.
 
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Behold the ‘beauty’ of democracy: death by a thousand debts | Pakistan Today

We drank wine on credit knowing that our drunkenness would bear bitter fruit one day
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India has about 50% of the debt....how come you don't write about that???? Why does EVERYTHING from Pakistan irk your passion to show your hatred? When your own country has issues as serious as Humans getting killed by Hindu fanatics who kill minorities because of what they EAT!!! Go solve this human resource fukkup that the Hindu terrorists have created, officially supported by the Indian government and Modi.

When India has 0 debt and the minorities live their in peace, then come comment on others. Living in a dirty, stinky house, your first goal is to clean up. Not stay in the filth and tell others about their mess!!!

And sadly, there are Pakistanis who, for personal issues and hatred, will take the bait and will "show themselves" off to the world readers in "true colors". How shameful, you guys make your country look bad in front of others!!
 
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India has about 50% of the debt.

"50% of the debt".....of what?

Are you talking about GDP. Thats a ratio in that case, (if you are talking about public debt).

The issue is not the level of debt but its serviceability. There's a reason why Pakistan has a junk credit rating and India doesn't. There's also a reason why countries with much higher debt ratios than India (more than 100%, even 200% of GDP) have much better credit ratings than India. Japan for instance has a 200%+ public debt to GDP ratio.

Why does EVERYTHING from Pakistan irk your passion to show your hatred? When your own country has issues as serious as Humans getting killed by Hindu fanatics who kill minorities because of what they EAT!!! Go solve this human resource fukkup that the Hindu terrorists have created, officially supported by the Indian government and Modi.

If you have nothing to discuss about this article in the 1st post, I suggest you take your frustration to another more suitable thread.

Attack the message, not the messenger.

When India has 0 debt and the minorities live their in peace, then come comment on others. Living in a dirty, stinky house, your first goal is to clean up. Not stay in the filth and tell others about their mess!!!

Again you seem to completely seem to miss the difference between raw level of debt and its long term impact through serviceability and increase % to long term GDP growth.

Thats why if you look at the long term credit ratings of both countries, there are real major differences there...for this very reason.

Countries in the growth stage (and even developed stage) have to accrue debt to some level to grow and maintain growth. The original article calls into question some of the impacts Pakistan's debt may have in the long term especially if it increases and the debt turns bad (NPAs, high servicing and such). It comes down to the long term economic viability of the projects the new debt is going to finance. The fiscal and long term macroeconomic situation does not look too rosy when you consider the desperate eurobond program and new IMF loan acceptance, so maybe there are better sectors to invest in (like education and skill training) which will give guaranteed long term returns when the economic "cake" (especially premium, manufacturing based, taxable sectors) is still at a somewhat nascent stage. The debt has to be well targeted spending to generate long run multipliers for the economy....on top of being able to be serviced.

The import of only coal from China seems to be a particularly nasty piece of fine print. I guess we will have to wait and see. It seems to me that Pakistan could have gained a more beneficial deal....but they seem to have gone with "anything" is better than "nothing".....thats always a bit of a gamble from a debt perspective.
 
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I doubt that. Let's see I guess.

The difference is about 300 bucks. 1427 to 1688. Thats about 18% difference on per capita terms from Pak to India.

A base year correction is not going to gain 18%. Maybe a few % points.



Tax-GDP ratio is about 15 - 18% depending on the year. For Pakistan its about 10 - 11%

List of countries by tax revenue as percentage of GDP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

India's is also increasing very quickly these years, outstripping GDP growth so the ratio is increasing just like Pakistan's
though from a larger base ratio.

Pakistan per capita income is $1513

Per capita income: A Pakistani now makes $1,513 a year - The Express Tribune

Indian GDP is very well documented unlike Pakistan

I have come across source's that claim that Pakistan informal GDP is in excess of 150% of Pakistan Formal GDP.

Size of informal economy at 91.4 percent of GDP: study - thenews.com.pk

I can't go into enough detail as i am busy with my exams but Pakistan Nominal GDP will expand by at least 35-40% with change in base year.

http://www.economist.com/news/leade...d-economy-indeed-wonder-so-are-its-still-huge

Last year with change in base year,Nigeria became the biggest economy of Africa.

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I got the numbers,Pakistan revenue for last year was 40 Billion dollars and india 420 Billion dollars.i thought Indian revenue was around 300 Billion dollars.

Pakistan tax to GDP ratio last year was 15% as far as i remember,you should search it again

Report for Selected Countries and Subjects

India has about 50% of the debt....how come you don't write about that???? Why does EVERYTHING from Pakistan irk your passion to show your hatred? When your own country has issues as serious as Humans getting killed by Hindu fanatics who kill minorities because of what they EAT!!! Go solve this human resource fukkup that the Hindu terrorists have created, officially supported by the Indian government and Modi.

When India has 0 debt and the minorities live their in peace, then come comment on others. Living in a dirty, stinky house, your first goal is to clean up. Not stay in the filth and tell others about their mess!!!

And sadly, there are Pakistanis who, for personal issues and hatred, will take the bait and will "show themselves" off to the world readers in "true colors". How shameful, you guys make your country look bad in front of others!!

Sir Indian debt to GDP ratio is 66% compared 64% for Pakistan.Please correct yourself

Government_debt_gdp.jpg


Country List Government Debt to GDP
 
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Debt servicing is based on tax collection and not gdp.

IIRC indian tax collection is more than 14 times that of pakistan.

Also given the worse rating, pak pays much higher in interest rate.

Btw has nawaz sharifs mother in law mentioned beef yet? I have stopped reading her emotional outbursts.
 
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Pakistan tax to GDP ratio last year was 15% as far as i remember,you should search it again

Tax/GDP is different from revenue/GDP which will be higher since there are non-tax revenues. The IMF projects the latter, so if Pakistan is indeed 15% in this measure, IMF also has India at around 20%.

Report for Selected Countries and Subjects


I go by standardized international sources. I can find local Indian and even govt sources that report higher income per capita than what the world bank and IMF report. To compare apples with apples, the source has to be the same.

Indian GDP is very well documented unlike Pakistan

I have come across source's that claim that Pakistan informal GDP is in excess of 150% of Pakistan Formal GDP.

Informal economies everywhere in the developing world are quite big. They can only be estimated.

I can't go into enough detail as i am busy with my exams but Pakistan Nominal GDP will expand by at least 35-40% with change in base year.

http://www.economist.com/news/leade...d-economy-indeed-wonder-so-are-its-still-huge

Last year with change in base year,Nigeria became the biggest economy of Africa.

Nigeria changed it from 1990 to 2010, so of course the change was huge. I doubt its going to be anywhere near that for Pakistan. We will have to wait and see.

Take this attempted rebasing exercise in Pakistan:

Calculation of economic statistics: Pakistan Bureau of Statistics okays change in base year - The Express Tribune

Double-counting: GDP overestimated, may be slashed by 10% - The Express Tribune

With episodes like this happening, I'm going to take any figure coming out of Pakistan with a major amount of salt.

Lets see if the World Bank and IMF stand by the Pakistan rebasing as they have with India's GVA reformed calculation.

Sir Indian debt to GDP ratio is 66% compared 64% for Pakistan.Please correct yourself

Figures change by the source and exact definition:

List of countries by public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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