Bayraktar TB2's Confirmed Kill List (759 targets - for now)

[dBSPL]

Some observers have attempted to downplay the TB2's extraordinary effectivity by disparaging the Armenian military, whose equipment had supposedly been lacking. However, past engagements over Syria, Libya as well as the one in Nagorno-Karabakh demonstrated an ability to take on many of the integrated air defence systems (IADS) modern nations might muster, having successfully combatted systems such as the Buk-M2, Tor-M2, S-300PS and Pantsir-S1 even when used in conjunction with electronic warfare systems like the Avtobaza-M, Repellent-1 and Groza-S. The TB2's performance in the face of these systems, designed to completely deny the airforces of even the most advanced nations the ability to function marked a watershed moment in the history of modern warfare.

The Bayraktar TB2's role was not merely that of a hunter killer, but ultimately even that of a complete ruler over the battlefield. Capable of stalking the location of any ground target and tracking their every move all the while flying in one of the most densely covered areas of air defence, the TB2 could direct other assests to hit ground targets all the while flying circles above them. The Roketsan 230mm TRLG-230 guided rocket can hit targets designated by TB2s; by fitting a laser guidance kit to the rocket. This impressive capability allows the TB2 to strike other targets well after expanding its own MAM-L and MAM-C munitions.

For Turkey, its highly efficient use of the Bayraktar TB2 has boosted its growing foreign policy assertiveness to shape a new foreign policy: Bayraktar Diplomacy. This essentially constitutes a new type of warfare that is uniquely well-suited to the characteristics of modern-day conflicts. Based around small-footprint interventions that seek to maximise both political and military impact at low financial and humanitarian cost, Bayraktar Diplomacy is so effective that it can be said to have decided the fate of nations: without the TB2 the internationally-recognized government of Libya could well have been wiped out and Nagorno-Karabakh would likely still be under Armenian control.



Behind these impressive feats is a company that not only appears intend on revolutionising modern warfare, but also to change the mindset of a country and offer future generations a chance to follow in the footsteps of success. In the process, Baykar Tech has proved that a nation doesn't need to be a superpower with an unlimited R&D budget to design advanced technology. As Baykar is eagerly pushing ahead the development of the MİUS unmanned fighter aircraft and TB3 carrier-born UCAV, the TB2 is not forgotten either, with almost daily updates ensuring that the design stays ahead of any system meant to counter it. [1]

The year 2021 saw the passing of Özdemir Bayraktar, the founder of Baykar, and Tarık Kesekçi, the performance and analysis team leader of the Akıncı project. Their deaths will leave those left behind with grief, yet they might find support in the thought that their legacy will continue to live on in the minds of new generations. Those inspired by their feats will not only be the future engineers behind upcoming unmanned aircraft designs, but also help to raise Turkey in other fields of technology and science. In this sense, Baykar Tech is transforming not just the country's destiny in the skies, but also in the sea and on the ground.



A detailed list of 759 targets confirmed to have been destroyed by Bayraktar TB2s over Syria, Libya, Iraq, Nagorno-Karabakh and Eastern Ukraine can be viewed below. This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. In some cases this solely consists of footage that was recorded on the ground. In these cases, the use of an armed drone was reported by witnesses on the ground. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here. Hits on personnel, munition caches and military structures are not included in this list. The list will be updated as additional footage becomes available.

(Click on the numbers to get a picture of each individual captured or destroyed vehicle)





Tanks (120)

• Armenia - 88 T-72: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36) (37) (38) (39) (40) (41) (42) (43) (44) (45) (46) (47) (48) (49) (50) (51) (52) (53) (54) (55) (56) (57) (58) (59) (60) (61) (62) (63) (64) (65) (66) (67) (68) (69) (70) (71) (72) (73) (74) (75) (76) (77) (78) (79) (80) (81) (82) (83) (84) (85) (86) (87) (88)
• SAA - 12 T-72: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12)
• SAA - 5 T-62: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5)
• SAA - 5 T-55: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5)
• SAA - 9 Unknown T-55/62: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7 and 8) (9)
• LNA - 1 T-55: (1)

Armoured fighting vehicles (46)

• Armenia - 8 BMP-1 IFV: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8)
• Armenia - 6 BMP-2 IFV: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6)
• Armenia - 13 MT-LB AFV (with AA gun): (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13)
• Armenia - 1 BRDM-2 reconnaissance vehicle: (1)
• Armenia - 3 9P148 Konkurs ATGM carrier: (1) (2) (3)
• Armenia- 1 BTS-4 ARV: (1)
• Armenia - 2 Unknown AFV: (1) (2)
• SAA - 9 BMP-1 IFV: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9)
• YPG - 1 BMP-1 IFV: (1)
• LNA - 1 Al-Mared APC: (1)
• LNA - 1 MSPV Panthera T6 IMV: (1)

Towed artillery (142)

• Armenia - 2 85mm D-44 divisional gun: (1) (2)
• Armenia - 7 100mm KS-19 AA gun used as howitzer: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
• Armenia - 1 122mm M-30 howitzer: (1)
• Armenia - 57 122mm D-30 howitzer: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36) (37) (38) (39) (40) (41) (42) (43) (44) (45) (46) (47) (48) (49) (50) (51) (52) (53) (54) (55) (56) (57)
• Armenia - 9 152mm D-1 gun-howitzer: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9)
• Armenia - 49 152mm D-20 gun-howitzer: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36) (37) (38) (39) (40) (41) (42) (43 and 44) (45) (46) (47) (48) (49)
• Armenia - 12 152mm 2A36 Giatsint-B field-gun: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12)
• Armenia - 1 Unknown mortar: (1)
• SAA - 1 122mm D-30 howitzer: (1)
• SAA - 1 152mm D-1 gun-howitzer: (1)
• SAA - 1 240mm M240 mortar: (1)
• DNR - 1 122mm D-30 howitzer: (1)

Self-propelled artillery (43)

• YPG - 1 106mm M40 RCL on Iranian Safir jeep: (1)
• Armenia - 17 122mm 2S1 Gvozdika: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17)
• SAA - 16 122mm 2S1 Gvozdika: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16)
• SAA - 3 130mm M-46 field gun on Mercedes truck: (1) (2) (3)
• SAA - 6 152mm 2S3 Akatsiya: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6)

Multiple rocket launchers (78)

• Armenia - 56 122mm BM-21 'Grad': (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36) (37) (38) (39) (40) (41) (42) (43) (44) (45) (46) (47) (48) (49) (50) (51 and 52) (53) (54) (55) (56)
• Armenia - 1 220mm TOS-1: (1)
• Armenia - 3 300mm BM-30 'Smerch': (1) (2) (3)
• Armenia - 1 Unknown MRL: (1)
• SAA - 8 122mm BM-21: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8)
• SAA - 1 122mm HM-20: (1)
• SAA - 2 122mm MRL on Toyota: (1) (2)
• LNA - 6 122mm BM-21 'Grad': (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6)

Ballistic missiles (2)

• Armenia - 2 R-17 'Scud-B': (1, destroyed by TB2 and loitering munition) (2, destroyed by TB2 and loitering munition)

Self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (7)

• Armenia - 1 23mm ZSU-23-4: (1)
• SAA - 4 23mm ZSU-23-4: (1) (2) (3) (4)
• SAA - 2 23mm ZU-23 on Toyota: (1) (2)

Surface-to-air missile systems (37)

• Armenia - 1 2K11 Krug ''SA-4'': (1)
• Armenia - 17 9K33 Osa ''SA-8'': (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17, destroyed by TB2 and loitering munition)
• Armenia - 3 9K35 Strela-10 ''SA-13'': (1) (2) (3)
• Armenia - 2 S-300PS ''SA-10'': (1 and 2, destroyed by TB2 and ground-launched guided munition)
• Armenia - 1 Tor-M2KM ''SA-15'': (1, destroyed by TB2 and loitering munition)
• SAA - 2 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1) (2)
• LNA - 2 2K12 Kub ''SA-6'': (1) (2)
• LNA - 7 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
• UAE - 1 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1)
• Wagner - 1 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1)

Radars systems (7)

• Armenia - 2 P-18 ''Spoon Rest D'': (1) (2)
• Armenia - 1 1S32 ''Pat Hand'' (for 2K11 Krug SAM): (1)
• Armenia - 1 1S91 SURN (for 2K12 Kub SAM): (1)
• Armenia - 1 ST86U/36D6 ''Tin Shield'' (for S-300 SAM): (1)
• Armenia - 1 19J6 (for S-300 SAM): (1)
• SAA - 1 SNR-125 ''Low Blow'' (for S-125 SAM): (1)

Jammers and Deception systems (1)

• Armenia - 1 R-330P Piramida-I: (1)

Aircraft (7)

• LNA - 3 Su-22: (1) (2 and 3)
• LNA - 2 Il-76TD: (1 and 2)
• LNA - 1 An-32 (1)
• PKK - 1 Paramotor: (1)

Vehicles (269)

• Armenia - 185 Vehicle: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8 and 9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20 and 21) (22) (23, 24 and 25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36) (37) (38) (39) (40) (41) (42) (43) (44) (45) (46) (47) (48) (49) (50) (51) (51) (52) (53) (54) (55) (56) (57) (58) (59) (60 and 61) (62) (63) (64) (65) (66) (67) (68) (69 and 70) (71 and 72) (73) (74) (75) (76) (77) (78) (79) (80) (81) (82) (83) (84) (85) (86) (87) (88) (89) (90) (91) (92) (93) (94) (95) (96) (97) (98) (99) (100) (101) (102) (103) (104) (105) (106) (107) (108) (109) (110) (111) (112) (113) (114) (115) (116) (117) (118) (119) (120) (121) (122) (123) (124) (125) (126) (127) (128) (129) (130) (131) (132) (133) (134) (135) (136) (137) (138) (139) (140) (141) (142) (143) (144) (145) (146) (147) (148) (149) (150) (151 and 152) (153) (154) (155) (156) (157) (158) (159) (160) (161 and 162) (163 and 164) (165) (166) (167) (168, 169 and 170) (171) (172) (173) (174) (175) (176) (177) (178) (179) (180) (181) (182) (183) (184) (185)
• Armenia - 1 9T217 transloader (for 9K33 Osa SAM): (1)
• SAA - 21 Vehicle: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17 and 18) (19) (20) (21)
• YPG - 5 Vehicle: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5)
• PKK - 12 Vehicle: (1) (2 and 3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12)
• LNA - 43 Vehicle: (1) (2) (3) (4 and 5) (6, 7, 8 and 9) (10 and 11) (12 and 13) (14) (15, 16 and 17) (18) (19, 20 and 21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31 and 32) (33) (34) (35) (36 and 37) (38) (39) (40 and 41) (42) (43)
• UAE - 1 19U6/03 generator (For Pantsir-S1): (1)

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/12/a-monument-of-victory-bayraktar-tb2.html

 

[Beny Karachun]

Really nice analysis as well

• SAA - 2 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1) (2)
• LNA - 2 2K12 Kub ''SA-6'': (1) (2)
• LNA - 7 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
• UAE - 1 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1)
• Wagner - 1 Pantsir-S1 ''SA-22'': (1)

I wonder what's the Russian shill excuse for all of those Pantsirs destroyed.

 

[dBSPL]

Really nice analysis as well

I wonder what's the Russian shill excuse for all of those Pantsirs destroyed.

If we take into account the armed drones of Israeli origin, the Armenian army has lost a significant part of its active inventory. Kamikaze drones' airspace saturation was a real nuisance. Of course, the use of old propeller planes as dummy-targets was very effective here. From smart munition types up to EW elements; The UAV attack doctrine of Azerbaijan in the 44-day Karabakh war will likely find its way into many military school literature.

 

[Foinikas]

having successfully combatted systems such as the Buk-M2, Tor-M2,

As far as I know,no Buk was destroyed by TB2 and a TB2 only tracked a Tor-M2 in Karabakh,supposedly one that was parking(?)inside a garage or something,but a Harop destroyed it.

Let's not forget the TB2s shot down in Libya:

If we take into account the armed drones of Israeli origin, the Armenian army has lost a significant part of its active inventory.

They lost A LOT of their inventory. A big part.

Tanks (120)

• Armenia - 88 T-72: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36) (37) (38) (39) (40) (41) (42) (43) (44) (45) (46) (47) (48) (49) (50) (51) (52) (53) (54) (55) (56) (57) (58) (59) (60) (61) (62) (63) (64) (65) (66) (67) (68) (69) (70) (71) (72) (73) (74) (75) (76) (77) (78) (79) (80) (81) (82) (83) (84) (85) (86) (87) (88)
• SAA - 12 T-72: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12)
• SAA - 5 T-62: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5)
• SAA - 5 T-55: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5)
• SAA - 9 Unknown T-55/62: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7 and 8) (9)
• LNA - 1 T-55: (1)

I remember MMM-E going like "Turkish Army destroy 155 SAA tanks!" lol

 

[dBSPL]

Let's not forget the TB2s shot down in Libya:

Result ? The putschists lost in Libya and had to retreat. The 1-year siege of Tripoli was destroyed. Those who wanted to invade Libya militarily had to accept a democratic election.

Of course, a lot of TB2 can be lost. This is the purpose of this system, not to put manned warplanes into risky airspaces or altitude ranges for point attacks while the ground army is advancing.


However, it has been visually proven before that many of the LNA claims are fake. For example, For example, they took a fallen TB2 with a pick-up and took pictures in different places. There is no credibility in the claims that do not have a visual anyway. The number of TB2 going to Libya is certain, the number of operators is certain. References to the LNA's social media efforts to uplift morale of its public, unless they contain proven images, will only be misleading in our understanding of the paradigm shift that tactical drones have begun to create in such combat conditions.

What needs to be discussed here are military doctrines and new systems developed according to these new strategies. Russia has a huge military industrial capacity. It would be foolish to underestimate Russian systems. However, many defense companies in Russia are trying to understand the blind spot against these tactical and kamikaze drones and develop counter systems suitable for it. Like a rabbit and the hound story, both sides(drones and countermeasures) have to develop continually and compete with each other.

 

[dBSPL]

I remember MMM-E going like "Turkish Army destroy 155 SAA tanks!" lol

As far as i know reported number for ANKA and TB2 is around 150, but the number of TB2 targets with visual evidence is listed above. If there is no visual evidence, these are one-sided claims.

 

[Foinikas]

Conclusion ? The putschists lost in Libya and had to retreat. The 1-year siege of Tripoli was destroyed. Those who wanted to invade Libya militarily had to accept a democratic election.

It's like I'm listening to MMM-E again. Yes,the siege broke. The Turkish forces saved Saraj and his government. But the "putchists" didn't lose. They were just temporarily pushed back. Who wanted to "invade Libya militarily"? Egypt? And what was Turkey doing? Didn't the Turkish forces come with weapons?

Of course, a lot of TB2 can be lost. This is the purpose of this system, not to put manned warplanes into risky airspaces or altitude ranges for point attacks while the ground army is advancing.

I know it's a great asset,but people here tend to go crazy about it and Turks talk as if they invented the atom bomb.

However, it has been visually proven before that many of the LNA claims are fake. For example, they drove around a fallen TB2 with a pick-up and took pictures in different places. There is no credibility in the claims that do not have a visual anyway. The number of TB2 going to Libya is certain, the number of operators is certain. References to the LNA's social media efforts to uplift morale of its public, unless they contain proven images, will only be misleading in our understanding of the paradigm shift that tactical drones have begun to create in such combat conditions.

Same goes for the Turkish sources. Russians and others have discredited supposed videos and claims of Turkish drones destroying Pantsirs and other systems. I don't believe Turkish sources easily,because I see what they do when something happens in the Aegean For example with collisions or dogfights,where they act like Indians who make stories to mock the Pakistanis when they were the ones who had a jet fighter shot down or a ship hit etc.

Burada konuşulması gereken askeri doktrinler ve bu yeni stratejilere göre geliştirilen yeni sistemlerdir. Rusya devasa bir askeri endüstriyel kapasiteye sahip. Rus sistemlerini küçümsemek aptallık olur. Ancak Rusya'da şu an pek çok savunma şirketi bu taktik ve kamikaze dronlara karşı kör noktayı anlayarak ona uygun karşı sistemler geliştirmeye çalışıyor.

Anlamadim

As far as i know reported number for ANKA and TB2 is around 150, but the number of TB2 targets with visual evidence is listed above. If there is no visual evidence, these are one-sided claims.

155 tanks is a ridiculously high number,it's like listening to weird pro-SAA websites who used to report "The SAA is sending 500 tanks and 1000 BMPs to Aleppo" etc.

 

[aziqbal]

no doubt BT2 is a deadly system and now unmanned systems are taking new leap forward

over 70% of the kills were of Armenia and did it really destroy 2 x IL76 on the ground Wow

it definitely changed the course of the wars it was involved in

would like to see the TB3 naval variant soon

so how many TB2 have been built so far?

 

[dBSPL]

It's like I'm listening to MMM-E again. Yes,the siege broke. The Turkish forces saved Saraj and his government. But the "putchists" didn't lose. They were just temporarily pushed back. Who wanted to "invade Libya militarily"? Egypt? And what was Turkey doing? Didn't the Turkish forces come with weapons?


I know it's a great asset,but people here tend to go crazy about it and Turks talk as if they invented the atom bomb.

You're taking the subject out of context again. Let's open a thread and discuss the military action and political consequences in Libya. It's ridiculous that you trying to discredit me, over MME's bad reputation here. All right, I can find at least 50 of your posts and prove where and how you're trolling PDF. Should our level of discussion really drop that low?

Anlamadim

Türkçe bildiğini sanıyordum. Gözlemim bu yöndeydi.

 

[dBSPL]

no doubt BT2 is a deadly system and now unmanned systems are taking new leap forward

over 70% of the kills were of Armenia and did it really destroy 2 x IL76 on the ground Wow

it definitely changed the course of the wars it was involved in

would like to see the TB3 naval variant soon

so how many TB2 have been built so far?

According to the figures compiled by Savunmasanayist.com, 257 Bayraktar TB2 armed UAVs produced so far have been delivered to many armed forces such as Turkey, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, as of Nov 2021.

Bayraktar TB2 Taktik S/İHA Rekorlar Kırmaya Devam Ediyor

Türk savunma sanayiinin en büyük başarılarından olan Bayraktar TB2, Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri ve müttefik ülkelerin ordularında 2014'ten beri hizmet vermekte.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[aziqbal]

According to the figures compiled by Savunmasanayist.com, 257 Bayraktar TB2 armed UAVs produced so far have been delivered to many armed forces such as Turkey, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, as of Nov 2021.

Bayraktar TB2 Taktik S/İHA Rekorlar Kırmaya Devam Ediyor

Türk savunma sanayiinin en büyük başarılarından olan Bayraktar TB2, Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri ve müttefik ülkelerin ordularında 2014'ten beri hizmet vermekte.

www.savunmasanayist.com

and more recently like as in last week they have been action over Ethiopia

 

[dBSPL]

Man,you mentioned Libya and talked things like "putchists" and hinted you stopped a military invasion etc etc.
Every time you mention something or imply something and then when somebody replies to you on that,you protest about trolling and talk about how PDF has becoming "hostile to Turkish members".
The other time you had to make that intro about "children can now play free in Tripoli" etc. before you talked about the Turkish drones' technical stuff and abilities.

If you don't understand, read it again. post #5. What am I talking about?

Result ? The putschists lost in Libya and had to retreat. The 1-year siege of Tripoli was destroyed. Those who wanted to invade Libya militarily had to accept a democratic election.

Of course, a lot of TB2 can be lost. This is the purpose of this system, not to put manned warplanes into risky airspaces or altitude ranges for point attacks while the ground army is advancing.


However, it has been visually proven before that many of the LNA claims are fake. For example, For example, they took a fallen TB2 with a pick-up and took pictures in different places. There is no credibility in the claims that do not have a visual anyway. The number of TB2 going to Libya is certain, the number of operators is certain. References to the LNA's social media efforts to uplift morale of its public, unless they contain proven images, will only be misleading in our understanding of the paradigm shift that tactical drones have begun to create in such combat conditions.

What needs to be discussed here are military doctrines and new systems developed according to these new strategies. Russia has a huge military industrial capacity. It would be foolish to underestimate Russian systems. However, many defense companies in Russia are trying to understand the blind spot against these tactical and kamikaze drones and develop counter systems suitable for it. Like a rabbit and the hound story, both sides(drones and countermeasures) have to develop continually and compete with each other.

I have been following this forum for 5-6 years, of which 4 years have been active. If you dig deeper into the relevant topics, you can see a huge amount of technical content. Once upon a time, there was a large Turkish community here and we discussed these issues in detail among us many times. Today, we only share some of information notes when we see a new development or an article worth reading. Yes, there is a poster that is constantly trying to bring everything back into the public eye, even if I disapprove. But for me, I have neither the excitement nor the time to enter into every argument.

So it would be very sad if you confuse me with someone who signed up 3 months ago and is trying to post all the topics about X country from morning till night. I have seen many member profiles that have passed through here until today. I totally understand what you're trying to do, but it's better if you don't make fun of the others mind while doing it. After this message, I will report all of your spammy off-topic posts under this topic.

PS:If you look at the forum history, you can see hundreds of posts even claiming that no pantsir systems were shot in Libya. The main purpose of this title was to collect targets that have been neutralized by Tb2 which have visual confirmation, and also how this effect had repercussions on the battlefield, under one title.

 

[Foinikas]

If you don't understand, read it again. post #5. What am I talking about?

Yes,I read it and I replied to you. Why would you think it's "trolling"? We're just talking.

totally understand what you're trying to do, but it's better if you don't make fun of the others mind while doing it.

What am I trying to do? You think I'm trying to provoke you or something? If yes,then you're mistaken.

Why are you suddenly "offended" and trying to report me again for "spamming"? Man it's like @Deino said! He was right! Turks here really get upset easily. Why would you go and make dramatic intros and geopolitical comments if you don't want people to reply to them? In the end,what exactly do you want? This is a discussion about a military weapon and its performance. You made a comment about the "outcome" in Libya and I replied to it.

 

[Beny Karachun]

If we take into account the armed drones of Israeli origin, the Armenian army has lost a significant part of its active inventory. Kamikaze drones' airspace saturation was a real nuisance. Of course, the use of old propeller planes as dummy-targets was very effective here. From smart munition types up to EW elements; The UAV attack doctrine of Azerbaijan in the 44-day Karabakh war will likely find its way into many military school literature.

Drones are definitely the most efficient killing machines.
Cheap to replace and can be sent to suicide missions morally free. The perfect SEAD.

 

[925boy]

Really nice analysis as well

I wonder what's the Russian shill excuse for all of those Pantsirs destroyed.

the issue with this bayraktar drone is that its been fighting incompetent forces - Syria- not a good military due to attrition, Iraq - same thing as Syria, not a good military, because the country isnt even united , Libya- not even a country, just run by proxy militias really, Eastern Ukraine- rag tag militia too, not a competent military force.

Bayraktar hasnt faced a good military yet, just like alot of "good" western military equipment, such as F35. Military equipment IMO isnt good unless it performs good against a good military. i believe that hasnt happened yet with Bayraktar.

Drones arent usually very effective against good adversaries, thats my point. Look at Israeli drones and Hezbollah- despite ISraeL HAVING so many good and high altitude and capability drones, Israel is always disadvantaged intelligence-wise when it enters conflict with hezbollah- the drones cant save the day alone.