Battle between two ideas of India

[Guynextdoor2]

Yup. Ain't we all?

No, look close and you'll find that similarities are almost identical. You miss it only because the background is supposedly different. But they're both the same.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

No, look close and you'll find that similarities are almost identical. You miss it only because the background is supposedly different. But they're both the same.

No. My point was their origin. One was Italian. One is Indian. You focused on occupation. Only per occupation are they comparable. Like comparing a dhaba cook(Modi the chaiwala) to Gordon Ramsay(Sonia the Italian barmaid).

 

[Levina]

I mean how about India try to increase the ratio of muslims from 3.5% in the army to their real population? It will never happen, mark my words

My father, during his fag end of the career in Indian army, had headed an academy, and was responsible for the recruitment process of a regiment.
I can assure you our soldiers are not recruited on the basis of their castes and religion. You can look up on net for the criteria on the basis of which an Indian soldier and officer is selected.
The ratio of Muslims in army can increase only if they show the will to serve the country. Anyway, our serving IB chief is a Muslim and in the past we have had many Muslim presidents; had it been about their religion then there was no chance that these muslims would have made it to such high positions. I hope you got the drift of it.
Indian army is devoid of such partialities, as the ones you assume.

 

[Bang Galore]

Literary secularists need to learn from Taslima: Bhyrappa
Rashmi Shrikant,TNN | Oct 19, 2015, 05.23 AM IST
Writers have been returning awards and quitting posts to register their protest against "rising intolerance", but eminent Kannada writer SL Bhyrappa calls it a "publicity stunt". He says the writers have a political agenda and the time has come to distinguish between "political litterateurs" and "pure litterateurs". Excerpts:

What is your response to writers returning awards and giving up posts?

It is nothing but a publicity stunt. Writers are doing it because returning the award will fetch them more publicity than getting the award. It is a ploy to destroy the democratic fabric of the country and the functioning of the Sahitya Akademi, which is an autonomous body.

Writers say their protest is against the BJP-led government and the growing intolerance indicated by MM Kalburgi's killing and the lynching of a Muslim man in Dadri. Do you think it is an effective way of exerting pressure on the Modi government?

I condemn Kalburgi's killing and the Dadri lynching. But what does the Modi government have to do with these incidents? Dadri is in Uttar Pardesh where Samajwadi Party is in power. Kalburgi's killing took place in Karnataka, which is under Congress rule. There is a political agenda behind what writers are doing which needs to be examined and publicly discussed. Why is it Nayantara Sahgal felt no guilt receiving the Sahitya Akademi award in the aftermath of the Sikh riots (in 1984) in which over 2,500 innocent people were killed? Where was her conscience then? Ashok Vajpeyi, who returned the award along with Sahgal, was the right hand of Congress leader Arjun Singh. It is time we distinguished between political litterateurs and pure %litterateurs.

In a recent interview to TOI, Taslima Nasreen said most secular people in India are pro-Muslim and anti-Hindu. Do you agree?

Yes, I agree with her view. She is right in saying that 'secular' people here protest the acts of Hindu fundamentalists and defend the heinous acts of Muslim fundamentalists. I agree with her that politicians appease Muslims for votes in India and Muslims get so much favour that it angers Hindus. Taslima is the real secular writer. Indian literary secularists must learn from her.

 

[Bombermanx1]

I don't support the writer's protest. But this was an opportunity for the government to show it can work with opposition. Modi has no friends. He doesn't know how to make friends or probably doesn't even care. This is bad politics. All that was needed was a statement assuring these people saying violence will not be tolerated and freedom of expression will be protected. Instead the government attacks the messengers. At least ignore them with some respect.

He doesn't need to make friends, that is why we gave him a Majority.Why make friends with Opposition is this a kitty party?Why should Modi talk at every stray incident in a country of 1 billion Hindus?How is Modi responsible for that,he is not the one who attacked did he.
Care shit about these messengers/poodles of Nehru family,They are nobody and nobody in public cares about them.For all i know they can take a one way trip to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia.

 

[Kaniska]

And what part of the constitution prevents this? In any case Sonia Gandhi never became PM so it's a pointless argument you are raising.

It is a very good logic for the sake of argument...

 

[JanjaWeed]

Literary secularists need to learn from Taslima: Bhyrappa
Rashmi Shrikant,TNN | Oct 19, 2015, 05.23 AM IST
Writers have been returning awards and quitting posts to register their protest against "rising intolerance", but eminent Kannada writer SL Bhyrappa calls it a "publicity stunt". He says the writers have a political agenda and the time has come to distinguish between "political litterateurs" and "pure litterateurs". Excerpts:

What is your response to writers returning awards and giving up posts?

It is nothing but a publicity stunt. Writers are doing it because returning the award will fetch them more publicity than getting the award. It is a ploy to destroy the democratic fabric of the country and the functioning of the Sahitya Akademi, which is an autonomous body.

Writers say their protest is against the BJP-led government and the growing intolerance indicated by MM Kalburgi's killing and the lynching of a Muslim man in Dadri. Do you think it is an effective way of exerting pressure on the Modi government?

I condemn Kalburgi's killing and the Dadri lynching. But what does the Modi government have to do with these incidents? Dadri is in Uttar Pardesh where Samajwadi Party is in power. Kalburgi's killing took place in Karnataka, which is under Congress rule. There is a political agenda behind what writers are doing which needs to be examined and publicly discussed. Why is it Nayantara Sahgal felt no guilt receiving the Sahitya Akademi award in the aftermath of the Sikh riots (in 1984) in which over 2,500 innocent people were killed? Where was her conscience then? Ashok Vajpeyi, who returned the award along with Sahgal, was the right hand of Congress leader Arjun Singh. It is time we distinguished between political litterateurs and pure %litterateurs.

In a recent interview to TOI, Taslima Nasreen said most secular people in India are pro-Muslim and anti-Hindu. Do you agree?

Yes, I agree with her view. She is right in saying that 'secular' people here protest the acts of Hindu fundamentalists and defend the heinous acts of Muslim fundamentalists. I agree with her that politicians appease Muslims for votes in India and Muslims get so much favour that it angers Hindus. Taslima is the real secular writer. Indian literary secularists must learn from her.

Damn...if only these kinda views gets equal exposure as the ones oppose to it, we would be much more fair & balanced society!

 

[vsdoc]

Damn...if only these kinda views gets equal exposure as the ones oppose to it, we would be much more fair & balanced society!

Hindutva is but newly emerged on the streets.

But its going to be a while before the hold of conditioned pseudo-secularism is purged from the collective national psyche.

There should be no majority or minority identity at all. That is between us and our Gods.

Just mutual respect, tolerance and rule of law.