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aaj nawaz sharif kashkool lay ker phir raha tha IMF kay darbar mien !!

sath mein uska yateem ishaq dar bhi tha...

so to pay interest of IMF loan, they are out there begging IMF to give more loan so that they can pay the interest installment !!

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@cb4 @Fracker I think one of you had some integrity in this matter? anything to say?

and I asked a simple question: what have pmln put in budget or a plan to raise revenue or allocated revenue to pay off this loan/interest installment?
 
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aaj nawaz sharif kashkool lay ker phir raha tha IMF kay darbar mien !!

I think the Economists are not dumb. On the other hand, the media has always something to dramatize because they want to make money...


Economists want PML-N to open immediate talks with IMF

ISLAMABAD: The upcoming PML-N government will have to take tough decisions on the economic front including approaching the IMF for obtaining bailout package of $5-7 billion to avert balance of payment crisis and preparing ground for presenting a feasible budget for 2013-14.

The government will have to finalise the budget keeping in view its priorities envisioned through its manifesto for wining the 2013 general elections.In order to curtail non essential imports, the import of military hardware could be halted at this difficult time, said experts.


“The plate for upcoming government will be full and they will have to start work for fixing the economic problems from day one,” renowned economist Dr Hafeez A Pasha said while talking to The News here on Sunday.


First of all, Dr Pasha said Pakistan would have to focus on balance of payment position in the wake of dwindling foreign currency reserves. So there will be two options; either to tighten the belt by compressing imports to the tune of $3 billion on immediate basis or approaching the IMF to avoid default.


According to Dr Pasha, the PML-N in its manifesto had envisioned to impose regulatory duty on non essential items of imports so curtailing imports could pave the way for avoiding the IMF programme on short-term basis.

“There are 60 percent essential items of imports and 40 percent non essential items, that could be discouraged to reduce the import bill,” he said and added that the import bill had surged up to $45 billion that needed to be reviewed in detail.


He said the PML-N government had compressed imports at the time of nuclear explosions so it could be done at this difficult economic situation again if the government preferred to delay the IMF programme.


“First few weeks are important and the government will have to take measures to reduce loadshedding in the wake of upcoming severe summer season,” he said and added that the monster of circular debt would have to be tackled to achieve the desired results.

On fiscal side, he concluded that the government would have to reduce expenditure on immediate basis as raising revenue at time of slowing down of economy seems difficult.When contacted, Dr Ashfaque H Khan, who is currently serving as Dean Nust Business School (NBS), said the government should start immediate discussion with the IMF for finalising a deal and reform agenda for next three to five years. “It will help the government estimate foreign inflows for finalising the next budget,” he said, and added that it would ensure confidence that is pre-requisite for boosting economic activities.


The upcoming government, he said, should also install a credible economic team as the incumbent team had failed to deliver in last three years as they presented the budget which never saw light of the day from start of financial year. “This team should be changed to ensure credibility of the next budget,” he added.

He also said that the economic reforms agenda should enlist fixing the problems of energy sector as continuous loadshedding is causing huge losses to the national economy.The sources said first the upcoming government will have to take stock of existing precarious position of different key institutions that were destroyed by the last PPP-led regime by making wrong appointments on political basis and mismanaged up to such an extent that these institutions were heading towards total collapse.

Economists want PML-N to open immediate talks with IMF | PurePakistan
 
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Josh-e-Khitabat tha yar.

I agree that we need to go to IMF, magr phir aisay waday nhn karnay thay na.

if you are indebted, what will you do?, I guess put a portion of your income to pay off the interest atleast, right?

all I am asking these nooras to show rest of the nation, where they have allocated that investment to generate such revenue so that we can atleast stop taking further loans just to pay off the interest installments?

kuch karo tou sahi bagharto is my question !!
 
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if you are indebted, what will you do?, I guess put a portion of your income to pay off the interest atleast, right?

all I am asking these nooras to show rest of the nation, where they have allocated that investment to generate such revenue so that we can atleast stop taking further loans just to pay off the interest installments?

kuch karo tou sahi bagharto is my question !!

We simply do not have the money to do that Sir. Two-thirds of our budget is tied up with debt, and a quarter with defense, leaving only 9 or 10% for everything else. We simply cannot free ourselves if we carry on as we are.
 
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I think the Economists are not dumb. On the other hand, the media has always something to dramatize because they want to make money...


Economists want PML-N to open immediate talks with IMF

ISLAMABAD: The upcoming PML-N government will have to take tough decisions on the economic front including approaching the IMF for obtaining bailout package of $5-7 billion to avert balance of payment crisis and preparing ground for presenting a feasible budget for 2013-14.

The government will have to finalise the budget keeping in view its priorities envisioned through its manifesto for wining the 2013 general elections.In order to curtail non essential imports, the import of military hardware could be halted at this difficult time, said experts.


“The plate for upcoming government will be full and they will have to start work for fixing the economic problems from day one,” renowned economist Dr Hafeez A Pasha said while talking to The News here on Sunday.


First of all, Dr Pasha said Pakistan would have to focus on balance of payment position in the wake of dwindling foreign currency reserves. So there will be two options; either to tighten the belt by compressing imports to the tune of $3 billion on immediate basis or approaching the IMF to avoid default.


According to Dr Pasha, the PML-N in its manifesto had envisioned to impose regulatory duty on non essential items of imports so curtailing imports could pave the way for avoiding the IMF programme on short-term basis.

“There are 60 percent essential items of imports and 40 percent non essential items, that could be discouraged to reduce the import bill,” he said and added that the import bill had surged up to $45 billion that needed to be reviewed in detail.


He said the PML-N government had compressed imports at the time of nuclear explosions so it could be done at this difficult economic situation again if the government preferred to delay the IMF programme.


“First few weeks are important and the government will have to take measures to reduce loadshedding in the wake of upcoming severe summer season,” he said and added that the monster of circular debt would have to be tackled to achieve the desired results.

On fiscal side, he concluded that the government would have to reduce expenditure on immediate basis as raising revenue at time of slowing down of economy seems difficult.When contacted, Dr Ashfaque H Khan, who is currently serving as Dean Nust Business School (NBS), said the government should start immediate discussion with the IMF for finalising a deal and reform agenda for next three to five years. “It will help the government estimate foreign inflows for finalising the next budget,” he said, and added that it would ensure confidence that is pre-requisite for boosting economic activities.


The upcoming government, he said, should also install a credible economic team as the incumbent team had failed to deliver in last three years as they presented the budget which never saw light of the day from start of financial year. “This team should be changed to ensure credibility of the next budget,” he added.

He also said that the economic reforms agenda should enlist fixing the problems of energy sector as continuous loadshedding is causing huge losses to the national economy.The sources said first the upcoming government will have to take stock of existing precarious position of different key institutions that were destroyed by the last PPP-led regime by making wrong appointments on political basis and mismanaged up to such an extent that these institutions were heading towards total collapse.

Economists want PML-N to open immediate talks with IMF | PurePakistan

even if you read this piece, it showed two way out of this, pmln choose the IMF, easy way out for itself, against the interest of the country !!!

We simply do not have the money to do that Sir. Two-thirds of our budget is tied up with debt, and a quarter with defense, leaving only 9 or 10% for everything else. We simply cannot free ourselves if we carry on as we are.

so according to your statistics, if you have to pay 66 Rs out of your 100 Rs income, you do what?
 
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if I am not mistaken Turkey paid off its last installment of foreign loan, just a couple of days ago

what was Turkey's economy in 2004 against Pakistan's, and what Turkey's economy is now against Pakistan's?

Run crying to Uncle IMF, going by our national response?

and if one has iota of integrity, he would save each penny possible to pay off !!
 
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aaj nawaz sharif kashkool lay ker phir raha tha IMF kay darbar mien !!

sath mein uska yateem ishaq dar bhi tha...

so to pay interest of IMF loan, they are out there begging IMF to give more loan so that they can pay the interest installment !!

@Jazzbot @Awesome @nuclearpak @Zarvan
@aks18 @jaibi

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@cb4 @Fracker I think one of you had some integrity in this matter? anything to say?

and I asked a simple question: what have pmln put in budget or a plan to raise revenue or allocated revenue to pay off this loan/interest installment?

yaar actually felt relieved after they didnt take the bowl to saudi masters

looks like he may actually grow some balls here

nawaz is not responsible for PPP corruption

well yeah they are some how infact by keeping friendly opposition for a long time etc but they are not directly responsible
 
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if I am not mistaken Turkey paid off its last installment of foreign loan, just a couple of days ago

what was Turkey's economy in 2004 against Pakistan's, and what Turkey's economy is now against Pakistan's?



and if one has iota of integrity, he would save each penny possible to pay off !!

As far as I know, Turkey owes more than $300 billion still:

Turkey External debt - Economy

And it is hard to save a penny when you import $40 billion while exporting $25 billion worth of goods, as we do.
 
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yaar actually felt relieved after they didnt take the bowl to saudi masters

looks like he may actually grow some balls here

nawaz is not responsible for PPP corruption

well yeah they are some how infact by keeping friendly opposition for a long time etc but they are not directly responsible

that is probably yet to come...

point being is not that he would take off all the loans, all of a sudden, the point is to move in the right direction, even onus of it !
 
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As far as I know, Turkey owes more than $300 billion still:

Turkey External debt - Economy

And it is hard to save a penny when you import $40 billion while exporting $25 billion worth of goods, as we do.

stand corrected,

this is Turkey's current situation:

Turkey will wipe off its International Monetary Fund (IMF) debt this month by paying its last installment. Turkey will also be one of the countries which contribute financially to the IMF with a $5 billion contribution. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan mentions such developments with pride. The relations with the IMF, however, are only a small portion of the big picture.

Turkey owed $4 billion to the IMF in 2000 that was a small amount in Turkey’s $119 billion total external debt. Even Turkey will pay its last installment this month, its external debt has reached $340 billion by the end of April, 43 percent of the national income

ECONOMICS - Turkey

point being they are moving in the right direction atleast.... "atleast" is the word I have used again and again in above posts..

however if you read the article above shared by cb4, essentials only make up 60% of the imported goods..

show some signs atleast that we are moving away from the foreign debt trap?
 
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Its not funny guys. For how long will Pakistan keep knocking IMF's doors to get a little support? A few billion dollars and too many conditions.

The fake liberals talk about cutting defense budget. How about cutting debt servicing? How about making governments more accountable and efficient? Fake liberals dont have answers for that.

Pakistan issue is not cutting defense budget. In fact we need to increase it. Pakistan problem lies with inefficient and corrupt governments.

This debt trap is difficult to get out. It will serve the govt for a while, but then the challenges of sustaining the economy will come up again after a few months or years.
 
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however if you read the article above shared by cb4, essentials only make up 60% of the imported goods..

show some signs atleast that we are moving away from the foreign debt trap?

That is the important point. We are in a deep hole, but the sad part is that we have not stopped digging it even deeper. At least we can stop digging. I agree with you on this completely.
 
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