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Challenges Facing Bangladesh


Political conflict in Bangladesh has led to corruption, poverty and severe problems in the educational system. The country is facing increasing instability. A political power vacuum is being filled by radical Islamists, posing a threat to the secular-democratic system. But the situation is not irredeemable. The article argues that Bangladeshis can work with foreign powers to bring about much-needed political reform.



By Adam E. Stahl

In need of some stability

In January 2007, the Bangladeshi High Court suspended general elections due to allegations of a lack of transparency and fairness within the voting system. Concurrently, the country is under a national state of emergency and civil unrest has spread across the country with nearly 35,000 Bangladeshis arrested. [1] National elections will not be held for at least 18 months despite domestic and international calls for a specific and speedy timetable. [2] The elections were to be a continuation of the struggle over political power between the Bangladesh National Party (BNP) and the Awami League (AL), which threatens to rip apart the fragile political system of one of the Muslim world’s largest democracies. [3]



At present, a caretaker government backed by the Bangladeshi military heads the country, and has initiated serious steps to crackdown on the endemic corruption that continues to plague Bangladeshi politics. [4] A variety of criminal charges have been filed against the nation’s two leading political figures, Sheik Hasina of the AL and Khaleda Zia of the BNP. [5]

Bangladesh’s political instability stems from a number of issues, including widespread corruption, weak government institutions, illegal migration to and from Bangladesh, radical Islamist terrorism, and an increase in Islamist influence, which has successfully exploited the political vacuum that the AL-BNP rivalry has allowed to open. Here I will set out the challenges facing Bangladesh, with emphasis placed on the growing political vacuum, and subsequently show how Bangladesh’s vital ally, the United States, can assist the Bangladeshi government on its quest for stability.

Bangladesh’s roots

Since Bangladesh won its independence from West Pakistan in 1971 after a bloody war of liberation, the AL and the BNP have dominated the country’s politics. The AL, led by Sheik Mujibar Rehman, was the first political party officially to govern the new Republic of Bangladesh in 1973. [6] Under Sheik Mujibar, democratic rule quickly turned authoritarian. On 25 March 1982 a military coup occurred under the leadership of General Hussein Muhammad Ershad. General Ershad suspended the constitution and officially named Islam the state religion. Thus political Islam entered into the mainstream Bangladeshi political system.

Since 1990, Bangladesh has been a parliamentary democracy with a separate judiciary and an active civil society, yet it remains only a “partly free” country. [7] Although a democracy, Bangladesh faces challenges central to a successful working democratic system: freedom of expression and political opposition. The media is active but it is not “free”: journalists feel threatened by political and religious opposition. [8] With the rise of radical Islam in Bangladesh, these democratic practices will become more difficult to obtain, as radical Islamists equate the very idea of democracy with heresy.

Border crossings

A significant challenge to Bangladesh’s democratic character is immigration. Bangladesh is one of the most densely populated countries with a massive population of approximately 150 million, of whom 85 percent are Sunni Muslims. [9] It shares a 4,000 km border with India. Illegal migration, from Bangladesh into India, has strained relations between the two countries, adding to Bangladesh’s pot of political difficulties, including the construction of a highly disputed border fence. [10] New Delhi claims illegal migration of “rebels” is the reason for its decision to construct a fence along the border, while Dhaka insists it violates a bilateral defence treaty in a “no build” zone. [11]

Bangladesh shares its south-eastern border with Myanmar. Comparatively, it is a small border, less than 200 km, [12] yet it has served as a crossing point for massive flows of illegal Muslim refugees. The migration of Muslim refugees from Myanmar is significant as south Bangladesh is increasingly viewed as a haven for radical Islamist organisations. In an area with strong Islamist influence, impoverished and uneducated refugees from Myanmar are easy targets for radicalisation. The result is growing support for radical Islamist groups and not for the AL or the BNP.

Most immigration is flowing into the coastal cities of Chittagong and Cox’s Bazaar, known sanctuaries for, among others, the “student wing” of Jaamat i-Islami, (JI). The JI is a radical Islamist party with 17 seats in Parliament, serving as part of the BNP’s coalition. [13] Though the BNP claims to have firm control over the JI, the increase in radical Islamist recruits and training camps, especially in the coastal area, shows that neither party has complete control over Islamist proliferation. In the south, where borders are porous, the ramifications of growing radical Islamism are considerable, potentially jeopardising Bangladeshi-Indian trade relations.

Finally, to the south lies the Bay of Bengal, vital to Bangladesh’s trade relations with India, Myanmar, and other South Asian countries. It is also useful for illicit narcotics and arms smuggling, routinely carried out by pirates. [14] Further, Islamist groups have been linked to criminal activity in the south, a combination which presents a serious threat of maritime terrorism in the Bay, economically threatening any country in the region linked to the Bay.

Party politics

The Awami League

The Awami League is characterized as a centre-left, secular-democratic political party, drawing support from minorities such as Shiite Muslims and Bangladeshi Hindus. Minority groups have long been targets of radical Sunni Islamists, whom many believe are aided by the JI and therefore protected by the BNP. One of the AL’s most contentious attributes is its pro-India stance, which dates prior to the establishment of the Bangladeshi state. [15] The contempt between the parties continues to grow and a détente between the two is only a distant hope.

Adding to the AL’s hatred towards the BNP are the numerous attacks on AL members, including the 2004 attack in which 13 grenades were thrown during an AL rally where Sheik Hasina was present; over 20 were killed and Hasina was left deaf in her right ear. [16] Further, many AL-sympathizing journalists, academics, and high-profile AL members have been assassinated. On 18 August 2005, Sheik Hasina stated that, “Jamaat e-Islami, a conservative party within the BNP coalition, has been supervising activities of various terrorist groups in the country for a long time”. [17]

The AL has been linked to a number of murders, the charges for which the police levelled at members of the party, including Sheik Hasina, the leader of the AL; Hasina also faces a lawsuit for alleged extortion totalling $400,000 whilst in office. [18] The charges filed against the former Prime Minister portray the seriousness of the interim government’s plan for fighting corruption at the governmental level. They also represent how other agencies and institutions are backing the interim leadership. The interim government’s plan has effectively marginalised Sheik Hasina. Belligerency and political rivalry, as well as alleged corruption, are but a few examples of why the Bangladeshi political system is so turbulent.

The Bangladesh National Party

General Ziaur Rahman (General Zia), a former officer in the Pakistani Army, established the BNP in September 1978. Currently, Khaleda Zia, the General’s wife, leads the party. The BNP is viewed as right of centre, nationalistic, conservative and business-oriented. The party takes an overtly hard line approach to India and is openly pro-Pakistan. The BNP is known for its mixture of traditional Bengali customs with Islam, though it has remained secular, despite its coalition with Islamist groups. The key difference between the AL and BNP is the latter’s alliance with Islamist organisations, which they rely on in order to stay in power.

One example of the BNP’s political allies is the JI. The JI openly supports the Pakistani military and is alleged to have been involved in massacres and targeted killings of various intellectuals in Dhaka, as well as other acts of terrorism. The JI also calls for the implementation of Shari’a (Islamic Jurisprudence) and the establishment of a theocratic system in Bangladesh. [19] Due to Khaleda Zia’s alleged participation in a number of criminal activities, reports abound that she may leave Bangladesh and seek asylum in Saudi Arabia. [20] As a result of the military-backed interim government’s crackdown, Khaleda Zia, like Sheik Hasina, has been politically marginalized.

Bangladeshi Islamist parties, specifically the JI and the Islamic Oikye Jote (IOJ), have benefited politically from an alliance with BNP. The JI are deeply radical in their views and are suspect in many Islamist terror attacks in Bangladesh, including the 2005 murder of Awami League member and former Finance Minister, Shah M.S. Kibria. [32] Moreover, the JI are suspected to have links with armed radical Islamist groups, such as the 10,000-strong Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB), with its suspected 2000-man suicide standby brigade. [33] In turn, both the JI and the JMB are believed connected to the highly fanatical Jagrata Muslim Janata-Bangladesh (JMJB). The JMJB is allegedly funded by al-Qa’ida, [34] making possible an international jihadist agenda.

Two challenges for two parties

The two great challenges to Bangladeshi democracy are corruption and the education system. The AL and the BNP have been recognised for economically stabilising Bangladesh in the last decade through various market-based economic reforms. [22] Despite the political rivalry between the AL and the BNP, both parties clearly want to see Bangladesh prosper. Still, political instability and corruption are responsible for the country remaining impoverished, with more than 60% of Bangladeshis living below the poverty line. [23] According to the World Bank, corruption is “among the greatest obstacles to economic and social development” as it “undermines development by distorting the rule of law and weakening the institutional foundation on which economic growth depends”. [24] In addition, Bangladesh consistently ranks as one of the most corrupt countries; its current rank, according to Transparency International, is 156 out of 163. [25] The United Nations Development Program Human Development Index (UNDP) places Bangladesh at 137 out of 177. [25]

The picture is more nuanced than these rankings suggest, according to one International Crisis Group analysis on Bangladesh: there are certain sectors of Bangladeshi society which fare well in comparison to surrounding countries. In Bangladesh, “Women are much better off than in Pakistan…conditions have been improving” and there is a powerfully active “NGO sector in all areas of social development”. [26] Nevertheless, endemic corruption has kept the country from progressing socio-economically, adding to the political instability.

With a visible increase in Islamist education, Bangladesh’s secular educational system is another challenge for both parties. There have been improvements in the educational system, such as greater gender balance and increased government spending, though expenditure may not have reached the appropriate level. There are reports that the government spends approximately $45 per student whereas certain madrassas (Islamic religious schools) are spending $75 per student. [27]

Of the students who participate in primary school only 76% complete the necessary requirements and it takes students an average of 6.6 years to do so. [28] Further, teaching methods are outdated and schools are generally dilapidated, adding to the difficulties in learning.

Concomitantly, there has been considerable growth of madrassas, mostly funded by wealthy Gulf States and Saudi Arabian charities, which aim to spread their Wahabbist ideology. [29] Recent figures claim more than 60,000 madrassas operate in the country with the majority (independent madrassas) not registered with the government.

The independent madrassas threaten Bangladesh’s secular society as radical Islamist groups, such as the JI, dictate the curriculum in these schools. These Islamic schools offer free education, often with free food and shelter: precisely the socio-economic services that the government is unable to provide and a crucial area that Islamists are able to exploit. [30]



The significance of this is that the JI, and other Islamist groups, are enjoying an increase in the number of new students, whom they will educate according to their Islamist radical ideologies. A 1998 study of the number of students enrolled in madrassas totalled 2,123,000, approximately 10% of Bangladeshi students. [31] Presently, the number of students attending Bangladeshi madrassas is not known, though there is evidence of mass recruitment in recent years.

Hopeful, still

The Republic of Bangladesh is currently in deep political crisis. The AL and BNP leaders are under investigation for murder and corruption; radical Islamists are making strong political headway; porous borders remain a threat to security; the country is currently under the control of a military-backed government; and national elections have been suspended for at least 18 months. Despite these crises, there remains ample reason for optimism.

Bangladeshis have long appreciated their democratic system and culture of secularism. Bangladesh remains a quasi-free state with electorate-level involvement in politics and there is no indication that the majority of Bangladeshis are shifting away from democratic rule. Bangladesh remains one of the poorest countries in the world yet there have been significant improvements: the country is making “good progress” towards the UN Millennium Development Goals and has made “extraordinary progress” in human and economic development. Between 1997 and 2000 its GDP grew on average five percent a year. [35]

The main areas of concern are corruption, education and poverty, all of which are being exploited by Islamist groups. These issues can be countered by a successful resolution between the AL and the BNP. In order for a resolution to materialize, the AL and BNP must find common ground. Facing the current militant Islamist threat to Bangladesh is one area in which the two parties share an interest. More common ground for the two parties is improvement in the educational system. Greater numbers of students are finding better education amongst radical Islamists and as a result the country may soon find its democratic character at greater risk than it already is. [36]

The interim government is not the only body capable of pressuring the AL and BNP to take this reforming line. Bangladesh remains an important US ally in the ‘war on terror’ and America continues to show its commitment to Bangladeshi democracy with financial aid: USAID has provided Bangladesh with over $5bn since the early 1970s. Further, the US has assisted Bangladesh in poverty, education, political reform, and has helped to rebuild the country following natural disasters. Though not ideal, the US may find it necessary to use the threat of cutting financial aid in order to press for speedy and concrete reforms.

As a country with democratic character, Bangladesh cannot remain under a military-backed interim government for long. The interim government and the US must exert their influence to assist in reforms. Though a solution to Bangladesh’s ills will not be witnessed by a single improvement in one area, an AL-BNP agreement would represent the first step towards overall progress. Should this come to fruition, Bangladesh’s fragile democracy will find itself on a stable path moving towards greater national development.

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Global Politics Magazine - Bangladesh

A good analysis before the last elections.

Has anything changed

Cut to the present.

There is no doubt that political milieu of Bangladesh has encouraged corruption, poverty and a less than efficient educational system. Instability has dogged Bangladesh’s history, which has even copycatted Pakistan in jettisoning democracy for military rule. The country is powder keg catalysed by its chronic. In the political void, radical Islamism is find roots threatening the secular democratic system. It must be remembered that religion is the last post for the despondent to finding solace. God is an unknown entity and this unknown factor raises hope since God is taken to be the panacea when all temporal entities fail! A very natural reaction for the disconsolate!

There has been an influx of Saudi money and many madrassas have sprouted. The concept of madrassa is very socially commendable. However, religious education alone cannot equip a person to become a constructive professional in the modern world. The danger of Saudi money in funding and erecting madrassa is dangerous since they promote the Saudi Wahabi interpretation which has proved to be a radical variety and has brought more woe to Islam than anything else. Jettisoning the benign Islam, which was the staple in the subcontinent, may, thus, not be ideal for progress, prosperity and marching into the world. One has to only observe the sad state of Pakistan, where they are being emasculated by these very Wahabi madrassa elements, who also are Pakistanis! Pakistan, prior to Zia, was a vibrant nation, intermittent military rule notwithstanding. In fact, under Ayub, her economy was stronger than its neighbour India. Today, because of the international turmoil caused by these very Saudi funded Wahabi Talibs, Pakistan is not only embroiled in the much loathed War on Terror as a surrogate of the US policies, but also fighting for its very internal existence with the same Saudi Wahabi terrorists, who want to sweep Pakistan from being a modern, progressive and vibrant nation into the obscurity of the Middle Ages cloaked in mediaeval customs and traditions that have little meaning in the contemporary modern world.

The question that begs an answer is that if Bangladesh is also in the vice grip of the Wahabi cult of Islam, will it be able to make the progressive and economic strides it has made so far? Will it then go into the turmoil that Pakistan is in? While Pakistan can surface from the Wahabi stranglehold since there appears now that a total disgust has set in at the state of affairs, will Bangladesh be able to emulate the same? That is the moot point.

The other issue, if the West finds the Wahabi cult grip expanding, will it sit still? After all, they would not like another terror centre to threaten their existence. What will happen to all the Bangaldeshis in western land? Already, there is an aversion towards immigrants and it is finding recognition in their new policies. If the West gets as irrational as the Wahabis and deports all Bangladeshis including the British born back to Bangladesh, will Bangladesh be able to absorb them? This is not a hypothetical kiteflying. The disgust is very palpable. What if some others also do the ‘me too’ following the Western example? Imagine the consequences.

In case one feels that China will stand by and be gleeful about the march of Islam, one should disabuse oneself of the same. China is a country that is very averse to instability in thought or composition. The heavy handed crackdowns bear witness. Further, the Global Times has indicated its apprehension of fundamentalist Islam.

Therefore, instead of giving vent to emotions and religiosity without thought, Bangladesh must look at the long term situation.
 
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I am aware that all this home truth will be difficult for Bangldeshis to swallow, digest, introspect and honestly comment.

Therefore, let it be a post in public interest.

But then, who knows there maybe those who would educate us?

One has to only see the threads on the PDF to see the total sorrow and helpfulness that has engulfed the Pakistanis. I share their anguish. It was a great feeling when Zia sold the country to the Wahabis to legitimise his illegal regime usurped through an illegal coup.

Afghanistan came into the Wahabi hands, Euphoria for the Islamic world.

Then, the Wahabis put their vice like grip. Zia was happy since it allowed him the 'gaddi', notwithstanding the fact that he was a butcher in Jordan where he killed Muslim Palestinians like flies but did so because of good money from the King. That much for being a good Muslim.

And then he died.

He left a legacy that is gnawing at the innards of Pakistan!

Therefore, Saudi money is great. Wahabis kills Islam because it invites forces that aims at the extinction of Islam.

Whabism invited hate of others.

Islam has nothing that requires hate. It is as good or bad as any religion. Wahabism does!

And I have Muslim relations. They are not who invite hate. They are as human, rational and kind as anyone else.

Why must the Wahabis encourage hatred?

So that they can reign supreme?

Bangaldeshi exult when Wahabi princes visit. Money is not everything in life. Sanity and peace within a nation is!
 
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You're so stupid. I would be extremely happy if you wrote sensible posts for once.

Tell me just one thing. If Euphoria came to the Islamic world, as you proudly proclaim, when Taliban captured it, why did only Saudi Arabia and Pakistan recognize them as the official government and not any other Islamic country? Is the Islamic world only Saudi Arabia and Pakistan?
 
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You're so stupid. I would be extremely happy if you wrote sensible posts for once.

Tell me just one thing. If Euphoria came to the Islamic world, as you proudly proclaim, when Taliban captured it, why did only Saudi Arabia and Pakistan recognize them as the official government and not any other Islamic country? Is the Islamic world only Saudi Arabia and Pakistan?

I not really stupid.

It is those who are ostriches who are not only stupid, but are cretins!

Answer the contents of the post and not act, what the Americans say, smart assed.

I use the American term since I am t old my English is beyond you all's comprehension and I should use 'modern' English!

I write sensible stuff, but it is difficult to answer them since you lack the intellect and so you all go on a tangent and get personal.

It only shows you lack ot intelligence and understanding of the reality of life!

No wonder you are a lonely one!

The madrassas are Saudi controlled. And Pakistan has fallen in the trap. They are not the only Islamic countries, but the Saudis have not been able to enter into the real Islamic Middle East countries because they have no time for Saudi money.

Have you gone through the euphoria exhibited in the thread where some minor Saudi prince is coming to shower his money to 'uplift' Bangladesh?
 
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BD is nothing like Pakistan btw.

It has had democracy since 1990(minus the 2 years of the caretaker government but this was not a military dictatorship). It does not alternate between military rule and democracy as Pakistan has done since 1947.

The ultimate test of BD's relative political stability is that the economy does not seem to much care who is in power and just continues to grow at increasing higher rates as each decade passes(3% average in the 1970s, 4% in 1980s, 5% in 1990s and around 6% in the last decade). This decade it could easily even grow higher than an average of 7% a year.


As BD becomes richer and more educated, then the immature politics that both the BNP and the Awami League engage in will naturally come to an end and the country will surely end up as a prosperous, stable democracy. It will take many decades but is almost certainly the country's destiny.
 
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BD is nothing like Pakistan btw.

It has had democracy since 1990(minus the 2 years of the caretaker government but this was not a military dictatorship). It does not alternate between military rule and democracy as Pakistan has done since 1947.

The ultimate test of BD's relative political stability is that the economy does not seem to much care who is in power and just continues to grow at increasing higher rates as each decade passes(3% average in the 1970s, 4% in 1980s, 5% in 1990s and around 6% in the last decade). This decade it could easily even grow higher than an average of 7% a year.


As BD becomes richer and more educated, then the immature politics that both the BNP and the Awami League engage in will naturally come to an end and the country will surely end up as a prosperous, stable democracy. It will take many decades but is almost certainly the country's destiny.

If you read the opening posts (which I presume you may not have done in detail), I have not said that Bangladesh and Pakistan are the same.

I have just indicated about the danger of fundamentalist Wahabism taking over Pakistan because of the pouring of easy money into Pakistan and Pakistan getting into a situation where it finds itself in difficult to extract itself and return to its original vibrancy.

The Bangladeshi politics have been chaotic all through, starting from the Mujib days, like it or not.

Right now it is just a little short of anarchy.

Bangladesh surely can be a vibrant country. I have no doubt about it.

It requires stability in politics and be far from Saudi paid for and inspired Wahabism!
 
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I not really stupid.

It is those who are ostriches who are not only stupid, but are cretins!

Answer the contents of the post and not act, what the Americans say, smart assed.

I use the American term since I am t old my English is beyond you all's comprehension and I should use 'modern' English!

I write sensible stuff, but it is difficult to answer them since you lack the intellect and so you all go on a tangent and get personal.

It only shows you lack ot intelligence and understanding of the reality of life!

No wonder you are a lonely one!

The madrassas are Saudi controlled. And Pakistan has fallen in the trap. They are not the only Islamic countries, but the Saudis have not been able to enter into the real Islamic Middle East countries because they have no time for Saudi money.

Have you gone through the euphoria exhibited in the thread where some minor Saudi prince is coming to shower his money to 'uplift' Bangladesh?

Do you know who he is??? Whether he is a minor prince or major prince or a multi billionaire???

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal is the nephew of King abdullah and grand son of founding King of Saudi Arabia, Abdul Aziz Al Saud and Riad as-Solh, Lebanon's first Prime Minister (Maternal). He has a property of 19.6 billion USD and currently building or has a plan to build the tallest tower in jeddah saudi arabiya and invested in many parts of the world. He is hardly religious and has more interest to run for politics in Lebanon then in saudi arabiya.

I think you are jealous of the fact that saudi aabiya is investing money in Bangladesh then in India where your government or prime minister MMS has begged to invest specially in infrastructure when he mention india can absord up to 600 billion USD in infrastructure. Yes, your PM has bagged for this saudi and middle eastern money which you are opposing now.

Prince Talal:

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Do you know who he is??? Whether he is a minor prince or major prince or a multi billionaire???

Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal is the nephew of King abdullah and grand son of founding King of Saudi Arabia, Abdul Aziz Al Saud and Riad as-Solh, Lebanon's first Prime Minister (Maternal). He has a property of 19.6 billion USD and currently building or has a plan to build the tallest tower in jeddah saudi arabiya and invested in many parts of the world. He is hardly religious and has more interest to run for politics in Lebanon then in saudi arabiya.

I think you are jealous of the fact that saudi aabiya is investing money in Bangladesh then in India where your government or prime minister MMS has begged to invest specially in infrastructure when he mention india can absord up to 600 billion USD in infrastructure. Yes, your PM has bagged for this saudi and middle eastern money which you are opposing now.

Prince Talal:

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Are you aware about the history of these Bedous who lived in tents and hardly had a bath?

You may get enamoured by these Bedous and their money, but I do not share your euphoria to bow my head to nomads who were made Kings by the British.

No we are not jealous of Saudis. In fact, we are making it real difficult for them to invest in India. We do not want Wahabism to pollute us no matter how much of money they have. We don't want to go the Pakistan way!

We have enough of our own money and foreign investors are coming flocking. But we don't want unwashed Bedous to pollute our people!

Thank you and keep him for yourself.

Now get back to the thread. now that you have acted as the Bedous paid flunkey and PR manager!

Comment on that and not undertake a PR campaign.
 
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I think bangladesh should ask for more investment from the gulf arab countries specially in the infrastructure and power sector as gulf arab countries are flufh with cash and now are looking for ways to invest through their soverreign wealth fund. As investment in dollar is not gonna return a good amount so they are looking for alternatives to invest the amount. Obviously Bangladesh as a rising developing country could be an alternative option. Now persuasion is the most important part.

Recently bd's seeing of 9 billion USD for power sector from Saudi Arabiya is a good move...and saudi already has decided to set up 3 billion USD refinery is another good move..

Bangladesh seeks Saudi investments in energy projects - Arab News
 
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Are you aware about the history of these Bedous who lived in tents and hardly had a bath?

You may get enamoured by these Bedous and their money, but I do not share your euphoria to bow my head to nomads who were made Kings by the British.

No we are not jealous of Saudis. In fact, we are making it real difficult for them to invest in India. We do not want Wahabism to pollute us no matter how much of money they have. We don't want to go the Pakistan way!

Thank you and keep him for yourself.

I know about them, their history and how they came to power and the main problem of middle east Israel has been created through skype picot agreement and british mandate.

For your mind refresher:



lol n for your remarks... that India is not looking for saudi money. Just google n see how your MMS has begged for oil money to invest in Indian infrastructure during his visit to saudi arabiya in 2010.
 
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You are a child. You know nothing about realpolitik.

MMS has to indicate that all is well.

Where do you think the Oil comes from?

The Moon?
 
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UK Bengali what do you mean by, BD is nothing like Pakistan??

Yes it is nothing like Pakistan as we are not the one who illegally migrate to other country...Don't forget you are in PDF

this thread is related to India and BD. don't bring Pakistan in between

You can dream of becoming Pakistan but then don't forget your from an insignificant country

You better go n have a sleep or it will not take much time for you to turn your color from green to pink like your other replica tomato boy and pumpkin boy.
 
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Does any of you know one of our sultans Ghiyasuddin Azam Shah in 1400
sent fortunes and envoys to saudi for building some madrassas?

Although now it would sound impossible as the tide has changed in just
100 years.
 
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You are a child. You know nothing about realpolitik.

MMS has to indicate that all is well.

Where do you think the Oil comes from?

The Moon?

Yes MMS had to indicate that... n your foreign minister had to say in private to hilary please do not say us in public what to do...

I may be a child but sensible

not irrational and diluted elder like you whose only purpose is trolling.
 
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Saudis were mere Bedou clan leaders.

Read history.

The British gave him the Kingdom through the Treaty of Darin.

That is how the Bedou camel clan leader became the Sultan!
 
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