Bangladesh alone can’t take Rohingya responsibilities: Dhaka tells UK

[VikingRaider]

As usual, you are responding illogically

And

Your posts are too long with meaningless BAL jargon

Yes sure , when something does not meet the criteria of others , all are BAL jargon , it's not new here . When I came here at first and used to bash AL ministers , that time I was rational no doubt , because the criteria was similar, isn't it ? Now why I do not drag them ? Because they (BAL ministers) are nothing . read my explanation about BAL ministers bellow if you wish .

You always flatter Hasina as if no one else ever did anything to the country.

Not that . It's not only Hasina , but many others did many thing for Bangladesh . But When Hasina came the country was like hell . The problem is,people who do not live in Bangladesh can not separate colors . Many people do not understand that there are huge difference between reality and paper work . I do not blame you , here most expats are like that , just the degree and level vary poster to poster .

What are you talking about Indian aggression?

For my answer you should read my other posts , I do not think all are worth repeating . I have engaged in discussion with others several times .

Do you think our armed forces at that time will remain inactive even if Hasina wants them to?

Exactly the same question I wanted to ask you . read your own post again .

You have to understand the BAL/Hasina psyche. Hasina wants to be trusted by the military but, she purchases military weapons that is not in the scale that the military would start to trust her. Moreover, she does not want even BDR to engage with BSF or MM border police.

As you are a seer ,who read the mind of Hasina . Again I say engaging frequently is not as easy as you are doing analysis from your living room in Japan where you are very safe . Make sense ? So why do you think that Hasina do not want BDR to engage with BSF ? When the border conflict happened between Bangladesh and India , and Bangladesh won decisively that Time Hasina was in power ! You already cancel your own logic , did you even notice that ?

But war is not something like a fantasy video game or a mythology where a hero will wipe off half of opponent soldiers . Was my previous message too hard to understand ?

Hasina remains inactive at the aggressive behavior of MM. She does not want military people to be in front of her by any chance.

But it is you who just said that military will not remain inactive if Hasina wants . So why military did not take action when Hasina remains Inactive ? So you have answered your own question right ? It was not Hasina who remained inactive , but it was military who decided to remain silent and wanted to solve the problem diplomatically ! Do you know why ? Because war should be the last resort and war will neither be fought by amateur expats nor will be led by arm chair generals! So If Hasina was silent , it was because Intelligence agencies suggested her to remain silent and solve the problem with diplomacy ! I do not think it's rocket science that people will have hard time to understand it !.

She is shaming BD when her foreign minister expresses his eternal love for India by saying India-BD friendship is like husband-wife relationship

So surely she is not shaming Bangladesh , but working rightly according to the suggestion that intelligence agencies suggest and they only report to prime minister , not to others , so I do not think here anyone should be ashamed . And also too much shame also cam be a problem , being shameless is not too bad !

About Momen already replied. Just I want to show you something and that is in the coronavirus case all ministers are sidelined and Hasina is using bureaucrats . If you still do not understand the political change in Bangladesh , if you still fail to guess the depoliticization process of Bangladesh , then it's your failure . try to think rationally , everything will be very clear !

Again I say prime minister ( be it hasina or khaleda ) always enjoy the empress position in Bangladesh , and other ministers are nothing but servants . So the theory of parliamentary system is inactive in Bangladesh , so any work of any minister can be ignored any time . Only pay attention what PM is saying and doing .

Do not you think BAL leadership are shaming the country? I wonder at whose behest Momen was selected as FM?

No I am not ashamed of Momen , as he is nothing but a servant of Hasina . Even ministers of presidential system are more valuable than Bangladeshi ministers who are sycophants who always try to please there lord ( based on popular Indian connection ) , later end up degrading themselves . ministers are servants in an absolute monarchy and in Bangladesh PM always enjoys the position of absolute monarch !So does not matter who's behest it is , in a show off of democracy , only parliamentary seats are valuable , not the people who are elected or selected whatever you like to call it.


However do you not see that Momen changed his position because he found his husband wife theory did not please Hasina ?

Amazing.

"She is shaming BD when her foreign minister expresses his eternal love for India by saying India-BD friendship is like husband-wife relationship. What a way of talking diplomacy!"

I hope you also got your answer! Sycophants have no value in diplomacy . All are just eye wash , and that really does not a matter to be ashamed of! @Avicenna

And you are all praise for these BAL idiots.

So I believe I already answered it multiple times and your assumption is totally false! I damn care about AL idiots , as they are nothing but servants who made many mistakes while tried to please their empress !

Is my answer clear now ?

It is a discussion forum where you tend to work as a BAL front very nakedly. You are the only one very naked. Please be rational and logical instead of praising every BAL wrong action. People should be neutral in a forum and not become the tail of a certain nasty political party.

So I believe, you finally have your answer ! If still not, try finding it with your sense! If BAL = Bangladesh ( if you think so ) , then yes I am naked ,if BAL is just a mere political party that is going to be neutralized soon like BNP , then no! It depends on your point of view! You are at a liberty to think whatever meet your criteria , I will not object!

Do not forget that BAL was once neutralized by Bangabandhu sheikh Mujib . Unfortunately that was not the right time or right way to neutralize it . Now the procedure is much secured. Make sense ? If not , again try to open your eyes and see that how solid BAL politicians are neutralized and novice idiots are in ministry . This is a process of depoliticisation I believe .

@bluesky

 

[Bilal9]

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yes sure , when something does not meet the criteria of others , all are BAL jargon , it's not new here . When I came here at first and used to bash AL ministers , that time I was rational no doubt , because the criteria was similar, isn't it ? Now why I do not drag them ? Because they (BAL ministers) are nothing . read my explanation bellow if you wish .

Not that . It's not only Hasina , but many others did many thing for Bangladesh . But When Hasina came the country was like hell . The problem people who do not live in Bangladesh can not separate colors . Many people do not understand that there are huge difference between reality and paper work . I do not blame you , here most expats are like that , just the degree and level vary poster to poster .



For my answer you should read my other posts , I do not thing all are worth repeating . I have engaged in discussion with others .

Exactly the same question I wanted to ask you . read your own post again .


As you are a seer ,who read the mind of Hasina . Again I say engaging frequently is not as easy as you are doing analysis from your living room in Japan where you are very safe . Make sense ? So why do you think that Hasina do not want BDR to engage with BSF ? When the border conflict happen between Bangladesh and India , and Bangladesh won decisively that Time Hasina was in power ! You already cancel your own logic , did you even notice that ?

But war is not something like a fantasy video game or a mythology where a hero will wipe off half of opponent soldiers . Was my previous message too hard to understand ?


But it is you who just said that military will not remain inactive if Hasina wants . So why military did not take action when Hasina remains Inactive ? So you have answered your own question right ? It was not Hasina who remained inactive , but it was military who decide to remain silent and wanted to solve the problem diplomatically ! Do you know why ? because war should be the last resort and war will neither be fought by amateur expats nor will be led by arm chair generals! So If Hasina was silent , it was because Intelligence agencies suggested her to remain silent and solve the problem with diplomacy ! I do not think it's rocket science that people will have hard time to understand it !.


So surely she is not shaming Bangladesh , but working rightly according to the suggestion that intelligence agencies suggest and they only report to prime minister , not to others , so I do not think here anyone should be ashamed . And also too much shame also cam be a problem , being shameless is not too bad !

About Momen already replied. Just I want to show you something and that is in the coronavirus case all ministers are sidelined and Hasina is using bureaucrats . If you still do not understand the political change in Bangladesh , if you still fail to guess the depoliticization process of Bangladesh , then it's your failure . try to think rationally , everything will be very clear !

Again I say prime minister ( be it hasina or khaleda ) always enjoy the empress role in Bangladesh , and other ministers are nothing just servants . So the theory of parliamentary system is inactive in Bangladesh , so any work of any minister can be ignored any time . Only pay attention what PM is saying and doing .


No I am not ashamed of Momen , as he is nothing but a servant of Hasina . Even ministers of presidential system are more valuable than Bangladeshi ministers who are sycophants who always try to please there lord ( based on popular Indian connection ) , later end up degrading themselves . ministers are servants in an absolute monarchy and in Bangladesh PM always enjoys the position of absolute monarchy !So does not matter who's behest it is , in a show off of democracy , only parliamentary seats are valuable , not the people who are elected or selected whatever you like to call it.


However do you not see that Momen changed his position because he found his husband wife theory did not please Hasina ?


I hope you also got your answer! Sycophants have no value in diplomacy . All are just eye wash , and that really does not a matter to be ashamed of! @Avicenna


So I believe I already answered it multiple times and you assumption is totally false! I damn care about AL idiots , as they are nothing but servants who made many mistakes while tried to please their empress !

Is my answer clear now ?


So I believe you finally have your answer ! If still not try finding it with your sense! If BAL = Bangladesh ( if you think so ) , then yes I am naked . If BAL is just a mare political party that is going to be neutralized soon like BNP , then not ! It depends on your point of view! You are at a liberty to think whatever meet your criteria , I will not object!

Do not forget that BAL was once neutralized by Bangabandhu sheikh Mujib . Unfortunately that was not the right time or right way to neutralize it . Now the procedure is much rational . Make sense ? If not , again try to open your eyes and see that how BAL politicians are neutralized and idiots are in ministry . This is a process of depoliticisation I believe .

@bluesky

Ha ha ha. You are now marked AL chetona pundit (JK).

Better get a Mujib coat.

 

[ebr77]

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Yes sure , when something does not meet the criteria of others , all are BAL jargon , it's not new here . When I came here at first and used to bash AL ministers , that time I was rational no doubt , because the criteria was similar, isn't it ? Now why I do not drag them ? Because they (BAL ministers) are nothing . read my explanation about BAL ministers bellow if you wish .

Not that . It's not only Hasina , but many others did many thing for Bangladesh . But When Hasina came the country was like hell . The problem people who do not live in Bangladesh can not separate colors . Many people do not understand that there are huge difference between reality and paper work . I do not blame you , here most expats are like that , just the degree and level vary poster to poster .



For my answer you should read my other posts , I do not think all are worth repeating . I have engaged in discussion with others several times .

Exactly the same question I wanted to ask you . read your own post again .


As you are a seer ,who read the mind of Hasina . Again I say engaging frequently is not as easy as you are doing analysis from your living room in Japan where you are very safe . Make sense ? So why do you think that Hasina do not want BDR to engage with BSF ? When the border conflict happen between Bangladesh and India , and Bangladesh won decisively that Time Hasina was in power ! You already cancel your own logic , did you even notice that ?

But war is not something like a fantasy video game or a mythology where a hero will wipe off half of opponent soldiers . Was my previous message too hard to understand ?


But it is you who just said that military will not remain inactive if Hasina wants . So why military did not take action when Hasina remains Inactive ? So you have answered your own question right ? It was not Hasina who remained inactive , but it was military who decided to remain silent and wanted to solve the problem diplomatically ! Do you know why ? Because war should be the last resort and war will neither be fought by amateur expats nor will be led by arm chair generals! So If Hasina was silent , it was because Intelligence agencies suggested her to remain silent and solve the problem with diplomacy ! I do not think it's rocket science that people will have hard time to understand it !.


So surely she is not shaming Bangladesh , but working rightly according to the suggestion that intelligence agencies suggest and they only report to prime minister , not to others , so I do not think here anyone should be ashamed . And also too much shame also cam be a problem , being shameless is not too bad !

About Momen already replied. Just I want to show you something and that is in the coronavirus case all ministers are sidelined and Hasina is using bureaucrats . If you still do not understand the political change in Bangladesh , if you still fail to guess the depoliticization process of Bangladesh , then it's your failure . try to think rationally , everything will be very clear !

Again I say prime minister ( be it hasina or khaleda ) always enjoy the empress position in Bangladesh , and other ministers are nothing but servants . So the theory of parliamentary system is inactive in Bangladesh , so any work of any minister can be ignored any time . Only pay attention what PM is saying and doing .


No I am not ashamed of Momen , as he is nothing but a servant of Hasina . Even ministers of presidential system are more valuable than Bangladeshi ministers who are sycophants who always try to please there lord ( based on popular Indian connection ) , later end up degrading themselves . ministers are servants in an absolute monarchy and in Bangladesh PM always enjoys the position of absolute monarch !So does not matter who's behest it is , in a show off of democracy , only parliamentary seats are valuable , not the people who are elected or selected whatever you like to call it.


However do you not see that Momen changed his position because he found his husband wife theory did not please Hasina ?


I hope you also got your answer! Sycophants have no value in diplomacy . All are just eye wash , and that really does not a matter to be ashamed of! @Avicenna


So I believe I already answered it multiple times and your assumption is totally false! I damn care about AL idiots , as they are nothing but servants who made many mistakes while tried to please their empress !

Is my answer clear now ?


So I believe, you finally have your answer ! If still not, try finding it with your sense! If BAL = Bangladesh ( if you think so ) , then yes I am naked . If BAL is just a mere political party that is going to be neutralized soon like BNP , then no! It depends on your point of view! You are at a liberty to think whatever meet your criteria , I will not object!

Do not forget that BAL was once neutralized by Bangabandhu sheikh Mujib . Unfortunately that was not the right time or right way to neutralize it . Now the procedure is much secured. Make sense ? If not , again try to open your eyes and see that how solid BAL politicians are neutralized and novice idiots are in ministry . This is a process of depoliticisation I believe .

@bluesky

Buddy you have some solid points but military strategy don’t works this way . Please Keep in mind -

- capitulation never works term - example : British in WW2. Us capitulating with Myanmar will not bear good fruit internationally . Results are evident now as well .
- Bangaldesh military will never ever back away from a war even if they are outnumbered , have less inferior tools . If an order is given to advance , come hell they will March and advance .
- the supposed recommendation you are claiming was given from intelligence community is totally false . They never give any recommendation . They will present their findings , facts . The decision is always taken by the head of the country . Our PM have judged the situation and took appropriate decision i believe .

 

[VikingRaider]

- Bangaldesh military will never ever back away from a war even if they are outnumbered , have less inferior tools . If an order is given to advance , come hell they will March and advance .

I know that . I also never said that they will break away . They are brave and patriot, and sign of our sovereignty. I only said that war should be the last resort when all diplomacy fail!

- the supposed recommendation you are claiming was given from intelligence community is totally false . They never give any recommendation . They will present their findings , facts .

Yes they will present their finding facts . Perhaps my word choosing was not correct .I actually wanted to say that . And also

The decision is always taken by the head of the country . Our PM have judged the situation and took appropriate decision i believe .

This is true too . But if Hasina would have taken any unwise or arrogant decision that goes against the interest of Bangladesh , then military intelligence will not let her stay as the head of state . Actually I wanted to say that . She is doing very well and that's the reason military intelligence isn't withdrawing their support . I hope I made myself clear now !

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

What if in future when you ppl modernized your forces the rohingiya problem won't be there?

 

[bluesky]

What if in future when you ppl modernized your forces the rohingiya problem won't be there?

With a strong political will force the Rohingya issue can be solved with only .303 rifles. Read this in the context of what I stated in my previous posts. Similar or worse things were solved with MM by only .303 rifles but with strong leadership at the helm of the country. A weak leadership in BD caused the Burmese Generals to do what they did with Rohingya Muslims.

Do you really think MM will cave in when BD has 200 units of F-16 planes but the country is led by a weakling woman? These planes will be bombarded on the tarmacs by the MM air force with two planes. That woman will not give order our planes to fly because she fears the planes may bomb her residence.

 

[ebr77]

then military intelligence will not let her stay as the head of state .

You are thinking Of ISI - Pakistan . Our intelligence community doesn’t work like that .

 

[Rusty]

You are thinking Of ISI - Pakistan . Our intelligence community doesn’t work like that .

I'm only saying this because you brought up Pakistan

isn't this guy on your money?

 

[ebr77]

With a strong political will force the Rohingya issue can be solved with only .303 rifles. Read this in the context of what I stated in my previous posts. Similar or worse things were solved with MM by only .303 rifles but with strong leadership at the helm of the country. A weak leadership in BD caused the Burmese Generals to do what they did with Rohingya Muslims.

Do you really think MM will cave in when BD has 200 units of F-16 planes but the country is led by a weakling woman? These planes will be bombarded on the tarmacs by the MM air force with two planes. That woman will not give order our planes to fly because she fears the planes may bomb her residence.

Right . Along with political willingness we would also need people’s support .

 

[VikingRaider]

You are thinking Of ISI - Pakistan . Our intelligence community doesn’t work like that .

As far I know Egypt , Pakistan and Bangladesh follow the same path. Tahrir Square would never be successful if there was no back up from armed forces .

But in Bangladesh people consider it as taboo so do not want to discuss . Also very little information are open for public . It's also a convenience for our intelligence agencies comparing CIA ! But since such things have no evidences so lets agree to disagree here.

With a strong political will force the Rohingya issue can be solved with only .303 rifles

Again would you like to explain that in 2020 how .303 rifle will solve problem if their is a strong political force ? What about the political force of Ukraine ? Why they lost Crimea to Russia ?The whole western world was supporting Ukraine , still Crimea is under control of Russia !

the country is led by a weakling woman?

According to your own theory Armed forces will disobey Hasina when it is necessary . So perhaps you should wait till they through out the weak woman from power . So perhaps it is better to store your energy for the necessary time (when the weak and docile woman will be kicked out) .