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BAE Systems Pursues Saudi, UAE Typhoon Deals


August 01, 2013

Credit: BAE Systems

BAE Systems is pursuing deals for Eurofighter Typhoon jets for the UAE and a follow-up deal for the aircraft in Saudi Arabia.

The company is keen to push production of the fourth-generation fighter out beyond 2020, CEO Ian King told analysts as the company released its half-year results on Aug. 1. BAE believes there is potential for a follow-up order of between 48 and 72 Typhoons for the Royal Saudi Air Force, on top of the order for 72 aircraft currently being built for that country in the U.K. The company also is set to deliver a bid to the UAE government as it looks for a new fighter to replace its Dassault Mirage 2000 fleet.

BAE Systems is looking to export markets, particularly the Middle East, in a bid to offset waning defense budgets in its domestic U.K. and U.S. markets. It is also drawing on success in Oman following last year’s order from Muscat for 12 Typhoons and eight Hawk trainers.

“This is a challenging environment but we continue to take the necessary actions to manage the business for the benefit of both our customers and our shareholders,” King said. “We have received £4.8 billion ($7.2 billion) of orders outside the U.K. and U.S. in the first six months, a continued sign of the momentum in international activity.”

Sales in the six months that ended June 30 were up 1%, although earnings were down from £922 million in 2012 to £865 million this year.

The company said that despite pressures, its U.K. business was “stable” thanks to multi-year contracts and a small number of large programs that provide “good visibility,” such as work on the Typhoon, as well as naval ship and submarine programs. But the U.S. side of the company is being affected by issues related to sequestration. In a statement, BAE said: “Unless measures are introduced to mitigate the impact of sequestration, defense spend is expected to face continued reduction.”

Deliveries of Typhoons have been re-started under the Al-Salam program. Initially the first 24 aircraft were to be made in the U.K. with the remainder of the order for 72 to be produced in Saudi Arabia. However, the deal was re-formulated for production to continue in the U.K., resulting in an increased cost. BAE says negotiations over the price escalation for the contract change have “not yet been reached.” The company has now delivered 28 of the 72 Typhoons, with another six to be delivered before the end of the year.

The talks have not affected the company’s strong relationship with the Saudi government, however, and this year it has signed a £600 million weapons contract, awarded in March under the Saudi British Defense Co-operation Program, as well as an order in June, valued at approximately £1.8 billion, for follow-on support through to 2017 to support the Typhoon in-country.

As well as opportunities in the Middle East, BAE also is chasing Typhoon sales in South Korea and Malaysia. The company says it expects a draft request for proposals for the U.S. Air Force T-X program in 2014, for which BAE will bid its Hawk trainer, and discussions are continuing with India for another batch of 20 Hawks.

The company also has confirmed that preparations are underway for the flight trials of the Taranis Unmanned Combat Air System demonstrator, which is due to fly in the second half of the year.
 
:devil: now the Brits are begging us for purchasing a second-batch of Typhoons :police:

Soon, we will get their own drones :sniper:
 
Hahahaha Salman came and put BAe in such a pitiful situation. Since the former defense minister died the blank checks of the past policy is gone for good.

Now we'll see how BAe handle the price reduction we want. And on top of that a follow on order of even cheaper Typhoons of higher Tranches.
 
@Yzd Khalifa

You should exploit this opportunity to get full transfer of technology including EJ-200. It will be a game changer for your industrial potential in the area of aviation.
 
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Sultan was generous, but he did great things as well.
Hahahaha Salman came and put BAe in such a pitiful situation. Since the former defense minister died the blank checks of the past policy is gone for good.

Now we'll see how BAe handle the price reduction we want. And on top of that a follow on order of even cheaper Typhoons of higher Tranches.

Cameron came in last year to convince The MoD to buy a second batch, but there is a stipulation on the deal, which is the thing you mentioned.
@Yzd Khalifa

You should exploit this opportunity to get full transfer of technology including EJ-200. It will be a game changer for your industrial potential in the area of aviation.
 
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Sultan was generous, but he did great things as well.

Please do list those great things I am all ears. The recent string of deaths have gave me more confidence in the future of my country.
 
Sure ;)

I'm indifferent to him. Anyway, I do know for sure that he did great things for the MoD, there are things the public didn't know about :azn:
 
BAE Systems Pursues Saudi, UAE Typhoon Deals


August 01, 2013

Credit: BAE Systems

BAE Systems is pursuing deals for Eurofighter Typhoon jets for the UAE and a follow-up deal for the aircraft in Saudi Arabia.

The company is keen to push production of the fourth-generation fighter out beyond 2020, CEO Ian King told analysts as the company released its half-year results on Aug. 1. BAE believes there is potential for a follow-up order of between 48 and 72 Typhoons for the Royal Saudi Air Force, on top of the order for 72 aircraft currently being built for that country in the U.K. The company also is set to deliver a bid to the UAE government as it looks for a new fighter to replace its Dassault Mirage 2000 fleet.

BAE Systems is looking to export markets, particularly the Middle East, in a bid to offset waning defense budgets in its domestic U.K. and U.S. markets. It is also drawing on success in Oman following last year’s order from Muscat for 12 Typhoons and eight Hawk trainers.

“This is a challenging environment but we continue to take the necessary actions to manage the business for the benefit of both our customers and our shareholders,” King said. “We have received £4.8 billion ($7.2 billion) of orders outside the U.K. and U.S. in the first six months, a continued sign of the momentum in international activity.”

Sales in the six months that ended June 30 were up 1%, although earnings were down from £922 million in 2012 to £865 million this year.

The company said that despite pressures, its U.K. business was “stable” thanks to multi-year contracts and a small number of large programs that provide “good visibility,” such as work on the Typhoon, as well as naval ship and submarine programs. But the U.S. side of the company is being affected by issues related to sequestration. In a statement, BAE said: “Unless measures are introduced to mitigate the impact of sequestration, defense spend is expected to face continued reduction.”

Deliveries of Typhoons have been re-started under the Al-Salam program. Initially the first 24 aircraft were to be made in the U.K. with the remainder of the order for 72 to be produced in Saudi Arabia. However, the deal was re-formulated for production to continue in the U.K., resulting in an increased cost. BAE says negotiations over the price escalation for the contract change have “not yet been reached.” The company has now delivered 28 of the 72 Typhoons, with another six to be delivered before the end of the year.

The talks have not affected the company’s strong relationship with the Saudi government, however, and this year it has signed a £600 million weapons contract, awarded in March under the Saudi British Defense Co-operation Program, as well as an order in June, valued at approximately £1.8 billion, for follow-on support through to 2017 to support the Typhoon in-country.

As well as opportunities in the Middle East, BAE also is chasing Typhoon sales in South Korea and Malaysia. The company says it expects a draft request for proposals for the U.S. Air Force T-X program in 2014, for which BAE will bid its Hawk trainer, and discussions are continuing with India for another batch of 20 Hawks.

The company also has confirmed that preparations are underway for the flight trials of the Taranis Unmanned Combat Air System demonstrator, which is due to fly in the second half of the year.

They should become a program partner of it.
 
BAE Systems Pursues Saudi, UAE Typhoon Deals


August 01, 2013

Credit: BAE Systems

BAE Systems is pursuing deals for Eurofighter Typhoon jets for the UAE and a follow-up deal for the aircraft in Saudi Arabia.

The company is keen to push production of the fourth-generation fighter out beyond 2020, CEO Ian King told analysts as the company released its half-year results on Aug. 1. BAE believes there is potential for a follow-up order of between 48 and 72 Typhoons for the Royal Saudi Air Force, on top of the order for 72 aircraft currently being built for that country in the U.K. The company also is set to deliver a bid to the UAE government as it looks for a new fighter to replace its Dassault Mirage 2000 fleet.

BAE Systems is looking to export markets, particularly the Middle East, in a bid to offset waning defense budgets in its domestic U.K. and U.S. markets. It is also drawing on success in Oman following last year’s order from Muscat for 12 Typhoons and eight Hawk trainers.

“This is a challenging environment but we continue to take the necessary actions to manage the business for the benefit of both our customers and our shareholders,” King said. “We have received £4.8 billion ($7.2 billion) of orders outside the U.K. and U.S. in the first six months, a continued sign of the momentum in international activity.”

Sales in the six months that ended June 30 were up 1%, although earnings were down from £922 million in 2012 to £865 million this year.

The company said that despite pressures, its U.K. business was “stable” thanks to multi-year contracts and a small number of large programs that provide “good visibility,” such as work on the Typhoon, as well as naval ship and submarine programs. But the U.S. side of the company is being affected by issues related to sequestration. In a statement, BAE said: “Unless measures are introduced to mitigate the impact of sequestration, defense spend is expected to face continued reduction.”

Deliveries of Typhoons have been re-started under the Al-Salam program. Initially the first 24 aircraft were to be made in the U.K. with the remainder of the order for 72 to be produced in Saudi Arabia. However, the deal was re-formulated for production to continue in the U.K., resulting in an increased cost. BAE says negotiations over the price escalation for the contract change have “not yet been reached.” The company has now delivered 28 of the 72 Typhoons, with another six to be delivered before the end of the year.

The talks have not affected the company’s strong relationship with the Saudi government, however, and this year it has signed a £600 million weapons contract, awarded in March under the Saudi British Defense Co-operation Program, as well as an order in June, valued at approximately £1.8 billion, for follow-on support through to 2017 to support the Typhoon in-country.

As well as opportunities in the Middle East, BAE also is chasing Typhoon sales in South Korea and Malaysia. The company says it expects a draft request for proposals for the U.S. Air Force T-X program in 2014, for which BAE will bid its Hawk trainer, and discussions are continuing with India for another batch of 20 Hawks.

The company also has confirmed that preparations are underway for the flight trials of the Taranis Unmanned Combat Air System demonstrator, which is due to fly in the second half of the year.

I think it would be better for Saudi Arabia to become official partner of Typhoon program and UAE of Rafale program too.

KSA should try to manufacture as much spares of these aircraft locally and also assemble EJ-200 with some parts manufacturing locally and Avionics too at AEC.

Similarly UAE, should also try to become a partner in Rafael and produce 100 of such planes and also try market with France in South America, EU and in Asia(Taiwan, Korea and Japan).

I am quite sure that Taiwan will going to buy at least 140+ aircraft as they are need of it and Japan might going to go for 140-200 EF-2000s....
 
Well,

We became an official partner now, we will keep it up though.
I think it would be better for Saudi Arabia to become official partner of Typhoon program and UAE of Rafale program too.

KSA should try to manufacture as much spares of these aircraft locally and also assemble EJ-200 with some parts manufacturing locally and Avionics too at AEC.

Similarly UAE, should also try to become a partner in Rafael and produce 100 of such planes and also try market with France in South America, EU and in Asia(Taiwan, Korea and Japan).

I am quite sure that Taiwan will going to buy at least 140+ aircraft as they are need of it and Japan might going to go for 140-200 EF-2000s....
 
Well, who doesn't like looting Arabs? :woot:

I hope Saudi Arabia takes full and complete advantage of these opportunities and expand their independent industrial base...

But..........................
 
Is that some sort of inferiority complex or something?
Well, who doesn't like looting Arabs? :woot:

I hope Saudi Arabia takes full and complete advantage of these opportunities and expand their independent industrial base...

But..........................






Aug 1/13: BAE’s 2013 Half-Year Results says that deliveries have resumed, with the Saudi fleet up to 28 fighters, construction beginning on new facilities, and pilot training in-country is progressing:

“Four Typhoon aircraft were delivered in the first half, adding to the initial phase of 24 Typhoon aircraft deliveries between 2009 and the end of 2011…. A [GBP] 0.3bn contract was signed in March for the construction of airfield facilities at King Fahd Air Base in Saudi Arabia. Discussions on the provision of maintenance and upgrade facilities in-Kingdom, and further capability enhancement of the Typhoon aircraft remain ongoing. Under an order received at the end of 2012 to deliver training to the RSAF, the first graduation ceremony of cadets from the King Faisal Air Academy was held in May [2013].”

With respect to finalisation terms for Tranche 3 upgrades, BAE’s presentation cites “good progress,” and says “Significant trading bias to second half anticipated.” Translation: we expect a deal toward the end of the year. Half-Year Results statement [PDF] and presentation [PDF] | Daily Mail .

June 2013: Support. Saudi Arabia signs an extension to the Salam Typhoon program, and will pay up to GBP 1.8 billion (about $2.771 billion) for support to “through to 2017″. The original agreement was signed as part of the original 2007 deal, but the initial period had lapsed, and it was kept in place through a number of short-term extensions (q.v. Feb 21/13). Source: BAE [PDF].
 

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