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Back to America: Pakistan pitches China's Belt and Road to U.S.
Islamabad turns to Washington as troubles with Beijing-backed projects mount
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A man offers evening prayers on a newly constructed pavement along the beach in Gwadar, Pakistan, in 2017. © Reuters
WAJAHAT KHAN, Nikkei staff writerOctober 27, 2021 07:41 JST
NEW YORK -- Pakistan insists that progress on its $65 billion China-backed economic corridor, the crown jewel of Chinese President Xi Jinping's Belt and Road initiative, has not slowed, even as security and financial problems complicate its development and relations with Beijing.
But recent trips by Pakistani officials to the U.S. suggest that Islamabad hopes to decrease its reliance on Chinese investment and look for help elsewhere.
Three Pakistani ministers, all with close connections to Prime Minister Imran Khan and the powerful Pakistani military, have visited the U.S. in the past month, though just one -- Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi -- managed to secure face time with a Biden administration official when he met Secretary of State Antony Blinken at the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly last month.
Pakistan's finance minister, Shaukat Tarin, unsuccessfully sought to revive a paused IMF loan early this month. Planning and Development Minister Asad Umar, who administers the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), arrived in Washington last week, talking up investment, engagement, and even the prospects of the Belt and Road Initiative's potential.
"Because of the U.S. presence in Afghanistan, there was a much bigger emphasis on the security part of the relationship," said Umar in an interview with Nikkei Asia. "[After the withdrawal] we are now hoping that as we move forward, there is a greater emphasis on the economic aspect of this relationship...We want the private sector taking full advantage of the opportunities that are present."
"Pakistan wants to make clear that it still looks to partnership with the U.S., particularly through trade and investment cooperation," said Michael Kugelman, Deputy Director of the Asia Program at the Wilson Center, a Washington think tank.
"The United States remains an extremely important country for Pakistan," said Uzair Younis, a policy analyst at the U.S. Institute of Peace. "Policymakers in Pakistan want to ensure that this connective tissue is strengthened and that the country successfully straddles the emerging U.S.-China rivalry in a way that helps it achieve its socioeconomic and human development goals."
But the pickings are slim and the shoulders are cold in Washington. Umar's trip was meant to secure funding for Pakistan's dwindling foreign direct investment from the U.S., which is currently at just under $200 million compared with China's $1.1 billion. But Umar, the former CEO of Pakistan's most successful company, remained bullish about the importance of a U.S-Pakistani engagement, while trying to sell the potential of CPEC, of which $15 billion to $16 billion worth of projects stand completed and another $11 billion are under development, he said at the Wilson Center on Friday.
"Just the sheer size of Pakistan -- one of the five biggest nations on Earth -- makes it an imperative to engage with," said Umar. "220 million people if you want to put on your commercial hat -- that's what the Cokes and the Pepsis and the Gillettes and the Procter and Gambles of the world cannot ignore."
"Then the location of Pakistan," he said. "We are the only country in the world which borders both of the largest nations of the world -- India and China."
But Chinese investors may be getting cold feet because of Pakistan's proximity and the insecurity that festers in the region. As the U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan was underway, Chinese workers in Pakistan continued to face multiple attacks this spring and summer, most notably a suicide bombing in Dasu on July 14 that killed nine engineers. That attack was preceded by another deadly bombing in Quetta on April 21 that narrowly missed China's counsel general. The attacks were claimed by the Pakistani Taliban, who pledge allegiance to the Afghan Taliban, now in control of Afghanistan, and who have long been considered to be supported by Pakistani military and intelligence agencies.
The balance sheets indicate even larger problems. Pakistan, which former U.S. Ambassador to Islamabad David Hale has called the "most IMF'd country on Earth" after undergoing 13 bailouts, has a total external debt load that ballooned in the last decade from $60 billion to $120 billion.
Moreover, Pakistan owes $1.4 billion to Chinese investors and independent power producers under CPEC and is having trouble paying them back. In the wake of consistent attacks against Chinese targets and slow progress in its investments, Beijing has demanded loan payments that Islamabad is struggling to make.
Umar acknowledged Pakistan's debt problem in his recent talks in the U.S. but played down tensions with Beijing.
"It is an issue of concern, but it is an issue which is being addressed bilaterally between Pakistan and China," said Umar. "There has been a good dialogue going on. And we believe that there is potential for some good solutions to be coming out of that dialogue in the not-too-distant future."
One recent shift in foreign investment in Pakistan was Saudi Arabia's decision in June to move its planned $10 billion oil refinery from the under development port of Gwadar to the megacity of Karachi. Both Pakistan and China have promoted the tiny city of Gwadar as an investment hub and a potential opening for foreign investors into the Persian Gulf and Central Asia. But security problems, capacity issues, and even water shortages have hampered progress. Some analysts see the Saudi move, followed by a new Chinese emphasis, as an indication that the Gwadar pitch is not working. But Umar told Nikkei Asia that Pakistan is still heavily pushing investment into insurgency-prone Gwadar and has already accelerated its infrastructure development there.
Has China's interest in CPEC waned? Is re-engagement with the U.S., especially after the debacle in Afghanistan, back in the cards for Islamabad? With its increasing tilt toward and dependency on China, how is Pakistan maneuvering for Washington's attention? Is the security blowback from Taliban-run Afghanistan imperiling Chinese investments in Pakistan? Here are excerpts of Asad Umar's interview with Nikkei Asia:
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Asad Umar, Pakistan's planning and development minister, speaks in his previous role as finance minister at a news conference in Islamabad in April 2019. © AP
Q: There's been a pivot from Gwadar to Karachi from Chinese investors. Does this not leave Gwadar and its province Balochistan in a lurch, especially at a time when the implications of an underdeveloped, impoverished Balochistan, which borders Afghanistan, will be severe? Why the pivot?
A: Actually, you're right that there is increased trust in Karachi and that will accelerate with the Dhabeji Special Economic Zone. Karachi has fantastic economic endowments. It is the most competitive business city in Pakistan. So it's good to see that emphasis. However, this hasn't come at the expense of Gwadar. In fact, there is more work being done, more money being spent right now on increasing the connectivity of Gwadar and improving the physical infrastructure of Gwadar than ever before. Right now, on water, on power, the airport, etc., all of this work is going on. Bigger funding is required for creating connectivity between Gwadar and...Afghanistan as well as right up to China. So there is more work going on, on these projects now, on these roads right now, than have been in years in the past. So the work is accelerating on both fronts.
Q: So it's not really a pivot, then? It's an expansion?
A: Absolutely. That's what's happening. Overall in Gwadar, what I call a "CPEC 2.0," it's a broadening of CPEC that is taking place. Not just geographically, but also in terms of sectors. The first phase was all about infrastructure. It was power projects. It was roads. We [moved on] to two joint working groups last year about science and technology and another one for agriculture. Recently...we have signed a joint working group for information technology. So you're seeing a broadening of CPEC taking place -- a deepening and broadening. So it's not one versus the other. It's just additive.
Q: There have been reports that the cost of projects in Pakistan, and even in Afghanistan, might not be worth it for Chinese investments given security concerns. Is security a peril with consistent attacks on Chinese targets after the events of Aug. 15 in Afghanistan and blowback seen in Pakistan?
A: So security is on the top of the priorities. Not just of the Chinese political decision makers, but also of the Pakistani decision makers. What's going on is, as this broadening and acceleration of CPEC is taking place, so are the activities of the hostile agencies which are operating in Pakistan. And there has been a recent targeting of the Chinese, with more than one incident. So, given the fact it is being targeted, we have also upped security measures. However, as far as the cost is concerned, this cost of security is not borne by the Chinese. It is borne by the government of Pakistan. As you know, special security forces were raised, there are specialized divisions for security which provide security to CPEC. And so the commercial activities are not being burdened by the security costs.
Q: Before your arrival, there was a flurry of diplomatic activity from Pakistan in the U.S. that we haven't seen in years. Are you trying to re-engage with Washington, where many look at Pakistan with skepticism?
A: Obviously the big decision for the U.S. was the disengagement from Afghanistan. So they were focused on that. However, Pakistan is very clear in its mind. We want an engagement with all countries of the world, including the U.S. We have a very large diaspora living here. The U.S. is one of the biggest export destinations. Cultural, political, historical, and security linkages still exist. So, Pakistan still looks forward to having a very constructive, positive relationship.
Additional reporting by Monica Hunter-Hart in New York.

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Security, good governance, and a level playing field are the basic ingredients foreign investors look for when they are considering investing billions, otherwise they charge a premium that eats up profits, turning perfectly good projects into unprofitable burdens.

Pakistan can’t afford to pay premiums any more. It’s cheaper in the long term to get the three ingredients right, to bring down the borrowing costs, even if it means short term political pain taking on the vested interests.

Perhaps, they are hoping Afghanistan stabilizes (Reducing the burden on the Pakistani economy) and the economy recovers somewhat by the 2023 election, where if PTI wins re-election it will have the mandate and time to go for real structural reforms.

But the longer the delays the deeper the hole gets, and with the way things are going, PTI may not win if things don’t improve soon.
 
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Asad Umar actually addressed the ' Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars' about CPEC on 22nd October .

It is the same venue where Alice Wells wells criticized CPEC and burden of Chicness loans on Pakistan back in Nov 2019. Asad Umar mentions Alice Wells during his comments. Following is the link to completes discussion @ Wilson Center.


Asad Umar Address Woodrow Wilson Center about CPEC

I never heard such type of discussion from a Pakistan politician in USA during the rule of Zardari or Nawaz Sharif.
 
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It’s Wajahat Khan, regardless of the publication he is writing this for.
Thanks. I read the article. I think the article missed the whole point.

It has less to do with US or China, less to do with how much negotiation power Pakistan has, or geopolitics importance of Pakistan.

Business has its own nature law. Capitalist pursue return and security.

Pakistan needs to provide return of business, stable government, and security of society. Capitalist has no motherland. That's the key point.
 
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Like Pakistan, China is also a country born from war, so China can acceptable to casualties.
This year, the explosion of Dasu hydropower station has a great impact on China's public opinion. The local govt's attempt to conceal the truth has had a bad impact, it has led some Chinese media and netizens to question whether the Chinese govt has the ability to protect the fair treatment of overseas Chinese workers.
The Chinese are not ignorant of the security situation in Pakistan. When the Chinese chose CEPC, the Chinese are ready for casualties with our partners. But please don't hide and cheat.
Discontent usually comes from insecurity, as do the Chinese people.
 
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It is the same venue where Alice Wells wells criticized CPEC and burden of Chicness loans on Pakistan back in Nov 2019.
I really don't understand the need to differentiate between Chinese loans and American / Western loans. After all, all loans are huge burden on the State of Pakistan.
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Thanks. I read the article. I think the article missed the whole point.

It has less to do with US or China, less to do with how much negotiation power Pakistan has, or geopolitics importance of Pakistan.

Business has its own nature law. Capitalist pursue return and security.

Pakistan needs to provide return of business, stable government, and security of society. Capitalist has no motherland. That's the key point.
You are right. Pakistan is unfortunately a political economy. There is very little real returns to be made here except maybe in real estate sector. Chinese and Pakistani govt took a huge risk when they invested heavily in CPEC without first solving structural problems in the economy.
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Thanks. I read the article. I think the article missed the whole point.

It has less to do with US or China, less to do with how much negotiation power Pakistan has, or geopolitics importance of Pakistan.

Business has its own nature law. Capitalist pursue return and security.

Pakistan needs to provide return of business, stable government, and security of society. Capitalist has no motherland. That's the key point.

What you say is true. A lot of the CPEC projects do not follow the laws of capitalism
"Then the location of Pakistan," he said. "We are the only country in the world which borders both of the largest nations of the world -- India and China."

factually incorrect: Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar border both India and China

What good is a border with India if you do not trade with them ?
 
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What you say is true. A lot of the CPEC projects do not follow the laws of capitalism


factually incorrect: Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar border both India and China

What good is a border with India if you do not trade with them ?
You people can't even tolerate some people celebrating Pakistan win in cricket much less buy things from Pakistan. It's of your own making.
 
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I really don't understand the need to differentiate between Chinese loans and American / Western loans. After all, all loans are huge burden on the State of Pakistan.
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You are right. Pakistan is unfortunately a political economy. There is very little real returns to be made here except maybe in real estate sector. Chinese and Pakistani govt took a huge risk when they invested heavily in CPEC without first solving structural problems in the economy.View attachment 788016View attachment 788017

Can anyone tell me what specific projects Pakistan get out of the rest of loans? What projects IMF/World Bank built in Pakistan?

I do see a huge difference between Chinese investment/loans and IMF/World Bank, there are fruitful results which do benefit most Pakistanis.

I have a memory longer than the Golden Fish. I can still remember
Worst-ever power crisis hits Pakistan in 2013
Pakistan is facing an unprecedented power crisis, the worst in its history, with the deficit estimated to be over 8,000 MW. Rather than a shortage in its installed capacity.
Pakistan’s Energy Crisis
Pakistan's Energy Crisis From Conundrum to Catastrophe?


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yaap a biased source .... reusing the old info with spin ... Pakistan in past offered not only USA but even to India to be partner in economical connectivity and progress.
Agree.
I want to emphasize two things. It may be small things to some members here:
  1. During 2013 energy crisis in Pakistan, any countries other than China offer any solutions? Would India/US investors come to Pakistan and provide tens of billions of dollars power projects?
  2. If we break down Pakistan foreign debt, China provided 20%. What's the outcome of the rest of the debt? Anything concrete were built by 100+ billions?
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Security, good governance, and a level playing field are the basic ingredients foreign investors look for when they are considering investing billions, otherwise they charge a premium that eats up profits, turning perfectly good projects into unprofitable burdens.

Pakistan can’t afford to pay premiums any more. It’s cheaper in the long term to get the three ingredients right, to bring down the borrowing costs, even if it means short term political pain taking on the vested interests.

Perhaps, they are hoping Afghanistan stabilizes (Reducing the burden on the Pakistani economy) and the economy recovers somewhat by the 2023 election, where if PTI wins re-election it will have the mandate and time to go for real structural reforms.

But the long the delays the deeper the hole gets, and with the way things are going, PTI may not win if things don’t improve soon.

Our country needs reforms and laws to address the issues of all these gang of mafia's and it won't come unless IK is given proper mandate. Country have to take hard decisions instead of short term gains. IK needs to look into the mirror too and stop giving lectures and stop shaking hands with the corrupts for the sake of keeping himself into power. Law and order and good governance is a must for the country to improve the lives of the country people.
 
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Agree.
I want to emphasize two things. It may be small things to some members here:
  1. During 2013 energy crisis in Pakistan, any countries other than China offer any solutions? Would India/US investors come to Pakistan and provide tens of billions of dollars power projects?
  2. If we break down Pakistan foreign debt, China provided 20%. What's the outcome of the rest of the debt? Anything concrete were built by 100+ billions?
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offer was not as replacement of China but to defuse or curtail the enmity of India and US towards CPEC as they see it as a strategic geopolitical project which is against their interest.

Offer was made with the complete understanding of China, infact China itself through its representative in Pakistan repeat the offer to India.

As far as current understanding is concern current Head of CPEC just few days back in his address in one the Primer Business Education University of Pakistan said following things (excerpts)

- “From the point of view of the emerging geo-strategic situation, one thing is clear: the United States supported by India is inimical to CPEC. It will not let it succeed. That’s where we have to take a position,” Mr Mansoor said.

- The premier’s aide said the United States and India continue to “make attempts to manoeuvre Pakistan out of” China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI)

- “There’s no way Pakistan will forgo any of its benefits. It has more than once burnt its fingers in (the Western) alliance in the past,” he said, adding that their attempts to dilute China’s strategic influence in the region will fail.


- “I had a very, very detailed discussion with the American embassy people. I told them CPEC is available for them as well. They have also expressed their wish that they would like to develop some kind of involvement and see how it can be beneficial for both countries,” he noted.
(Source: Link | NOTE: If possible read the complete article)

You must know he is consider very near to Asad Umar who in this article is quoted with usual spins and twist.

Current strategy of Pakistan and China is simple they want to create the business interest of US private sector rather to involve US government so that US investors and business class could act as rational actor in favour of CPEC in USA and could act as counter weight to the irrational anti-CPEC lobby.

It is same as China have very healthy business and economic relations with US private sector but not so good relations with US government, we are trying to replicate the same here.
 
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