Azerbaijan interested in Turkey’s Firtina Self-Propelled Howitzer

[cabatli_53]

News.Az - Azerbaijan interested in Turkey

Thu 31 March 2011

Azerbaijan is interested in Turkeys Firtina Self-Propelled Howitzer, Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation (MKEK) reported.

Talks are being held with the Azerbaijani side on the purchase and sale of the military equipment. The sides are expected to sign the contract by the end of this year.

The self-propelled howitzer produced by MKEK was put down on the inventory of Turkish Armed Forces in 2004. Firtinas armament consists of 155 mm L52 artillery gun and 12.7 mm machine gun. Firtina can open fire within 30 seconds. Maximum range of fire is 40 km. Through the Inertial Navigation System produced by ASELSAN the howitzer is able to determine the coordinates of the targets at 17.5 m.

Firtina has advantage over Soviet self-propelled howitzers like Akatsiya, Gvozdika and Giatsin in the inventory of the Azerbaijani Army. For firing range and efficiency it can be compared with the Pion 2C7 203 mm self-propelled howitzers.

APA

I think Azerbaijan would also be the first costumer of newly developed Firtina ammunition resupply vehicle as well.

 

[Kompromat]

Its one hell of a machine.

 

[ASQ-1918]

36 Firtina SPH. The contract is worth 200 million USD

 

[Barbarossa]

36 Firtina SPH. The contract is worth 200 million USD

When will they recieve them?

 

[AKINCI]

36 Firtina SPH. The contract is worth 200 million USD

Agreement will probably cancel because of German made engine and transmission system. German parliament does not let sells weapons to fighting countries. It may too costly changes to engine and transmission for 36 SPH.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I thought it was the korean K-8s SPGs copy?... doest it use german stuff?

 

[ASQ-1918]

Akinci, this news are recent. If you read the news, MKEK says that the contract will be signed by the end of this year. So I assume that they will solve the issues.

 

[SAUD-404]

Why didn't we went for this Firtina Self-Propelled Howitzer rather then panter Howitzer????????????????

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Why didn't we went for this Firtina Self-Propelled Howitzer rather then panter Howitzer????????????????

Coz we didnt need it.....Besides we bought more thn 115 M-109A5 SPGs frm USA........N upgraded the older a4s.......... n it makes no sense to buy different types of spgs......... Also i doubt firtina can bo sold co its not a turkish product........... its a lil downgraded variant of k-9(south korean) howitzer......With german engine etc...produced bt turkey.under tot.

M-109A5=

 

[AKINCI]

Coz we didnt need it.....Besides we bought more thn 115 M-109A5 SPGs frm USA........N upgraded the older a4s.......... n it makes no sense to buy different types of spgs......... Also i doubt firtina can bo sold co its not a turkish product........... its a lil downgraded variant of k-9(south korean) howitzer......With german engine etc...produced bt turkey.under tot.

Turkey firstly developed this prototype but some of Korean subsystems could not install on it because of it's different design so MKEK decided to producing it similar to Korean design. Firtina is not downgraded version of K-9 contrarily it's upgraded version of it. Firtina owes to it's higher performance to Turkish made Aselsan's subsystems such as INS, FCS, Automatic Cannon Movement System, First Speed Radar, Night Vision Equipments, Radio and communication systems. Engine, and transmission are producing under license of Germany. Besides barrel and other subsystems are producing with Korean license.

Furthermore Korea has joined to Australian Army's howitzer tender with Aselsan made subsystems. K-9 howitzer hit all of targets on tests and eliminate other howitzers such as Pzh 2000, Archer etc. Only south african and korean howitzer has left on this tender. I heard that Koreans want to upgrade their K-9 howitzers with similar to turkish subsystems.

 

[ASQ-1918]

Also i doubt firtina can bo sold co its not a turkish product...

Did you read the news? The information is from MKEK wich is responsible for exporting Firtina to Azerbaijan.

"The sides are expected to sign the contract by the end of this year."

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

T-155 Fırtına (Storm) is the Turkish variant of the K9 Thunder 155mm self-propelled howitzer of South Korea.

Though essentially using the main systems of the K9 howitzer, including the South Korean designed 155/52 caliber gun system, majority of the chassis, automatic ammunition feeding mechanism, and the German designed MTU-881 KA 500 diesel engine, the T-155 has considerable differences in its turret design, parts of the chassis, the navigation system, and electronic systems (such as the radio and fire control system) which were developed in Turkey. Unlike the K9, T-155 Firtina lacks a reception module for automatic ammunition resupply vehicles, and also the commander's digital panoramic sight. Through the Inertial Navigation System produced by ASELSAN the howitzer is able to determine the coordinates of the targets at 17.5 meters deviation. Firtina can open fire within 30 seconds.

According to the licence agreement with Samsung Techwin, the first eight T-155s were built in South Korea, while the remaining batch of more than 300 units would be produced in Turkey.[1] The total reported cost of purchase and technology transfer for the Turkish government was $1 billion.[2]

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[AKINCI]

It does not proves that Firtina is downgraded version of K-9. Even Koreans participate to tenders with Aselsan's subsystems.




Raytheon Australia: Home


RA 14/08 3 November 2008

‘Aussie Thunder’ will deliver $234 million boon for Australian industry


Raytheon Australia is the prime contractor for the AS-9, which has been offered to the Australian
Army for the LAND 17 Artillery Replacement Program. The Raytheon team includes South Korea’s
Samsung Techwin (manufacturer of the proven K9 Thunder SPH); Australia’s SEAL Solutions
(crew protection); and Turkey’s leading defence communications specialist, Aselsan (on-board
weapon management system).

http://www.raytheon.com.au/rtnwcm/groups/rau/documents/download/rau_news_rel_2008_as9_234m.pdf

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

So 234 million for how many guns?apologies for my ignorance.

 

[AKINCI]

36 Firtina SPH. The contract is worth 200 million USD.