Australian soldiers sentenced by France for blasphemy

[Wolfhunter]

So then you agree with our blasphemy laws. I'm happy we have a common ground here

Your country, your law. Do whatever floats your boat my friend. Just don’t ask me to agree with it .

 

[Divergent]

1. It’s a real shame you lack geo strategic depth.

2. You sound young, I may be wrong but just so you know, when the Gujarat massacre in happened 2002, I wrote a letter to our local councilllor and Tony Blair to bring up the issue with the Indian Ambassador. I even pititioned people in college to do the same, so please don’t judge me to be some narrow minded simpleton.

3. Palestine should and can defend itself , its their right. I am not a supporter of illegal settlements, but I am a supporter of Israel’s right to exist and defend herself, please don’t confuse the two stances.

3. BJP and RSS are nationalists but they are not “terrorists” with the same depth and reach as say the Taliban or LEJ.

4. You blame the intelligence services, are you aware of the judicial review process that was in place? Same goes for Captain Hook and the Bradford Twins?

5. No nation is clean, statecraft is a duty business, but you still manage it within acceptable norms and sense of decorum.

Absence of such makes the whole stew rot!



Okay that’s cool because generally speaking no one likes to be spat on. I don’t know about you and your fetish ( you may like getting spat on) but as a rule and for hygiene purposes I don’t. So thanks!

Well if you despise me that much why don’t you do what I suggested on Page 4 and stop quoting or copying me in your posts!

Cheers!

Edited: typo.

It’s a real shame you undermine my knowledge due to your lack of understanding.

Irrespective of the Gujarat massacre the fact remains the person in position and responsible is currently the PM of India - which goes to show parties like the BJP and RSS are a result of the rise of the Hindutva movement. Extreme views and motives shouldn’t be encouraged in a Country that claims itself to be ‘Secular’. You either live upto it or quit making a joke out of yourself.

I’m not saying Israel as a State shouldn’t be recognised, I disagree with how it went about and the rise of Zionism which has displaced millions of Palestinians due to their selfish land grabbing behaviour. The UN gave them an inch and they took a mile. I suggest you read the Balfour declaration. In respect to that the Palestinians are right to defend themselves as well as be recognised as a Sovereign State.

Tej and Taliban are banned in Pakistan and highly discouraged. However if the Americans want to get places in Afghanistan than the failures of the longest war standing in history shouldn’t be pinned on Pakistan but the fact that they’ve not exchanged dialogues with a party which holds majority and major parts of the Country.

Intelligence services were slow to react and it could have been prevented had the individuals been taken out and put into some rehabilitation. The London attacker was right under their nose aired on a Ch. 4 documentary.

 

[Wolfhunter]

It’s a real shame you undermine my knowledge due to your lack of understanding.

Irrespective of the Gujarat massacre the fact remains the person in position and responsible is currently the PM of India - which goes to show parties like the BJP and RSS are a result of the rise of the Hindutva movement. Extreme views and motives shouldn’t be encouraged in a Country that claims itself to be ‘Secular’. You either live upto it or quit making a joke of yourself.

I’m not saying Israel as a State shouldn’t be recognised, I disagree with how it went about and the rise of Zionism which has displaced millions of Palestinians due to their selfish land grabbing behaviour. The UN gave them an inch and they took a mile. I suggest you read the Balfour declaration. In respect to that the Palestinians are right to defend themselves as well as be recognised as a Sovereign State.

Tej and Taliban are banned in Pakistan and highly discouraged. However if the Americans want to get places in Afghanistan than the failures of the longest war standing in history shouldn’t be pinned on Pakistan but the fact that they’ve not exchanged dialogues with a party which holds majority and major parts of the Country.

Intelligence services were slow to react and it could have been prevented had the individuals been taken out and put into some rehabilitation. The London attacker was right under their nose aired on a Ch. 4 documentary.

1. I understand perfectly, I assure you.

2. Have I supported BJP?, oh dear you must have me confused. Which post of mine gave you the impression I am an Indian or support anti Muslim policies in India. I am English my dear .

3. I agree that there are merits on both sides of the Israel/Palestine argument.

4. I am talking about the Hiqqani network which has support of Pakistani ISI.

5. Again you failed to understand my point that the twins and the London attackers were under “judicial review”. The UK is a responsible nation and as such is held to a higher standard of accountability when it comes to enforcement of national internal security.

 

[Divergent]

1. I understand perfectly, I assure you.

2. Have I supported BJP?, oh dear you must have me confused. Which post of mine gave you the impression I am an Indian or support anti Muslim policies in India. I am English my dear .

3. I agree that there are merits on both sides of the Israel/Palestine argument.

4. I am talking about the Hiqqani network which has support of Pakistani ISI.

5. Again you failed to understand my point that the twins and the London attackers were under “judicial review”. The UK is a responsible nation and as such is held to a higher standard of accountability when it comes to enforcement of national internal security.

Belonging to the fifth richest Country in the World. Our policies are more focused on selling weaponaries than to protect and reduce the number of homeless on the streets, which is a national shame.

Not stated you support BJP but pointing out that the acceptance of having a criminal stand as a PM, resulted to an increase of extremism within the Country and 2017 was a terrible year for India. Not to mention the recent lynching with the mob taking selfies with the deceased. This jungle law has to be stopped and the second largest minority is not safe within their own Country.

There’s no proof of the Haqqani network being supported by them - rather there’s more proofs to USA’s CIA funding ISIS.

Internal security is crucial I agree, but our agencies have let loose warlords in our Country. The MI6 used Libyan rebels to topple the Gadafi adminisation and helped aid them into UK - the Manchester attack was affiliated to the Libyan rebels. That is not responsible.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Belonging to the fifth richest Country in the World. Our policies are more focused on selling weaponaries than to protect and reduce the number of homeless on the streets, which is a national shame.

Not stated you support BJP but pointing out that the acceptance of having a criminal stand as a PM, resulted to an increase of extremism within the Country and 2017 was a terrible year for India. Not to mention the recent lynching with the mob taking selfies with the deceased. This jungle law has to be stopped and the second largest minority is not safe within their own Country.

There’s no proof of the Haqqani network being supported by them - rather there’s more proofs to USA’s CIA funding ISIS.

Internal security is crucial I agree, but our agencies have let loose warlords in our Country. The MI6 used Libyan rebels to topple the Gadafi adminisation and helped aid them into UK - the Manchester attack was affiliated to the Libyan rebels. That is not responsible.

1. We sell weapons like any other nation as a means of maintaining our strategic depth in a fluid world. Everyone would love to hold hands and sing songs but the sad reality is that money is power and power.

You cannot equate homelessness to weapons sales which are carried out by private companies such as De Allen, Landrover or BAE.

Homelessness is because the system is strained by having to support more unemployed and less people in full time employment paying NI contributions.

2. But since you are taking about Indian Jungle law would you not say it’s fair to also question the persecution of Ahmedi and Christians in Pakistan?

3. Regarding ISI and Taliban links:
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/isi-and-terrorism-behind-accusations

4. So what exactly are you advocating, that we stop accepting refugees? That’s not very humane now is it? But let me say that I agree with you that Unvetted immigrants especially low skilled are a serious threat to security and community cohesion. But not sure what that has to do with what me and that other guy were discussing.

Even so, our security services do a stellar job and should be commended for it.

 

[Divergent]

1. We sell weapons like any other nation as a means of maintaining our strategic depth in a fluid world. Everyone would love to hold hands and sing songs but the sad reality is that money is power and power.

You cannot equate homelessness to weapons sales which are carried out by private companies such as De Allen, Landrover or BAE.

Homelessness is because the system is strained by having to support more unemployed and less people in full time employment paying NI contributions.

2. But since you are taking about Indian Jungle law would you not say it’s fair to also question the persecution of Ahmedi and Christians in Pakistan?

3. Regarding ISI and Taliban links:
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/isi-and-terrorism-behind-accusations

4. So what exactly are you advocating, that we stop accepting refugees? That’s not very humane now is it? But let me say that I agree with you that Unvetted immigrants especially low skilled are a serious threat to security and community cohesion. But not sure what that has to do with what me and that other guy were discussing.

Even so, our security services do a stellar job and should be commended for it.

In junction to your points the Ahmadi case is a grey area due to religious beliefs which holds the same stance in any other Muslim Country - nonetheless they’re not deprived off their citizenship or rights. They’re entitled to their beliefs and practice just as any other minority. Nothing as bad compared to ‘secular’ India.

In regards to the Christian community - there are Christian citizens representing themselves in political, media, entertainment and diplomatic areas within Pakistan. One of the most successful Pakistani supermodels is called Sunita Marshal. Adding on the military recruits people of all religious backgrounds including both Ahmadis and Christians. It’s a prestige bureaucratic and diplomatic institute which shuns discrimination.

It doesn’t really make Britain a responsible state if our weaponary is being used in Yemen. But I’m glad Theresa May will pick that up with Mohammed Salman since he’s on a UK tour.

The intelligence services should be commended for their tireless effort - but I do believe there were instances which could’ve been prevented.

 

[Samlee]

And it's completely lawful to deny that Palestinians are not forcefully made homeless.. and their children aren't being killed.. despite having access to clear footages..

Man Double Standards Are So Glaring With The Gora

Reported. @WebMaster kindly review this post



Long may US drones continue to target the terrorist camps Pakistani army fails to take action against.

Stop them if you can . And yes I support Israel and yes I am a feminist.

LOL Army Fails We Have Wiped Out Terrorist Hideouts From Pakistan It Is You And Your US Allies That Have Been A Miserable Failiure In Afghanistan

https://jamestown.org/program/the-successes-and-failures-of-pakistans-operation-zarb-e-azb/

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/30/asia/afghanistan-taliban-us-control-intl/index.html

3. Regarding ISI and Taliban links:
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/isi-and-terrorism-behind-accusations

Don't Whine About ISI When You Harbour A Terrorists Like Altaf Husain Who Is Single Handedly Responsible For The Murder Of Thousand of Karachiites Over Three Decades

Nothing selective about my statements. Please kindly review the start of the thread with holocaust denial, abusive posts, personal attacks, and then the victim card.

Facts of the matter are Israel has a right to defend her self as granted it under the League of Nations and United Nations Accords.

Pakistan is selective on which terrorists it arrests and which it decides to release. Why is it that so manufacturers terrorists get acquitted from atc:
tribune.com.pk/story/529353/prosecuting-terrorists-out-of-559-cases-in-2012-suspects-acquitted-in-414/%3famp=1



Ciao

2013 News Piece Has It Occurred To You Pakistan Set Up Military Courts After That??????

There is a difference between Freedom to offend and hate speech, the issue you are referring to relates to France and I am English. Two different countries, in the U.K we would not accept someone hurting the sentiments of anyone, including Muslims.

But in France satire is very different, it has always been tongue in cheek and critical of everyone, the pope, the president, Jesus Christ and yes even Mohammed (PBUH) so unless you are aware of that culture and tradition you will not understand the background behind such behavior.

Also it is unacceptable that the Muslim world decides it can try and bully people into shutting up when people say something that Muslims don't like. Instead of trying to bully people, try and engage with them in dialogue but that is one thing Muslims are not great at.

How can you compare the wholesale massacre and genocide of millions of jews, gentile and poles to a caricature? Come on, be reasonable!

Then You Should Also Not Bully People Into Accepting Holocaust Rather Try And Reason With Through Facts

 

[Asim B.]

On behalf of @Well.wisher

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@Psychic @Asim B. @PAKISTANFOREVER @Ocean @war&peace

Honestly you can't expect any better from her. She's pro-India.

 

[Psychic]

Well the entire civilized world disagrees with you and your warped view.

https://yourstory.com/2014/08/bengal-famine-genocide/
aww that was civilized.

Pakistan is selective on which terrorists it arrests and which it decides to release. Why is it that so manufacturers terrorists get acquitted from atc:

Pakistan has the right to pursue it's national interests by supporting or attacking any group it wants just like other states. Read the history of CIA before complaining about Pakistan's "attitude problems".
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Our terrorists are sitting in London and Geneva, do you see us bitchin about it like the West does?
In any case, the term terrorism is subjective. Yesterday Hikmetyar was a terrorist for the US, today he is a gentleman sitting in Kabul. That's realpolitik, everything else which is on the media is to fool gullible audiences like you.
P.S The UN is for most cases is a horde of kids led by pied piper Uncle Sam. @Desert Fox

 

[Well.wisher]

On behalf of @Well.wisher

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@Psychic @Asim B. @PAKISTANFOREVER @Ocean @war&peace

U think I'm an idiot ?
Or am unable to know your edited posts . ?

And whatever it is , don't engage me like some kid . Solve yourself .

 

[Desert Fox]

And whatever it is , don't engage me like some kid . Solve yourself .

But you're his cheerleader, he needs your moral support I was only trying to help

U think I'm an idiot ?
Or am unable to know your edited posts . ?

I never edited any posts. He's admitted to being a Zionist and supports drone strikes on Pakistanis.

But you have no shame. When are you going back to India?

Honestly you can't expect any better from her. She's pro-India.

She should be deported to India where she can enjoy the slums and ganga river with her Hindu lovers.

 

[Wolfhunter]

supports drone strikes on Pakistanis..

Correction, please don’t misconstrue my statements. I support US drone strikes on Terrorists. Cheers!

 

[Well.wisher]

But you're his cheerleader, he needs your moral support I was only trying to help

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I never edited any posts. He's admitted to being a Zionist and supports drone strikes on Pakistanis.

But you have no shame. When are you going back to India?


She should be deported to India where she can enjoy the slums and ganga river with her Hindu lovers.

Fck off you dishonest crap !

 

[PakSword]

But you're his cheerleader, he needs your moral support I was only trying to help

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I never edited any posts. He's admitted to being a Zionist and supports drone strikes on Pakistanis.

But you have no shame. When are you going back to India?


She should be deported to India where she can enjoy the slums and ganga river with her Hindu lovers.

I can't even imagine a Pakistani can support someone who believes that Israel is defending itself against Palestinian aggression.

Reported. @WebMaster kindly review this post

Tujhe kaisay pata chala main ne tujhay pehchaan lia hai? Indian false flagger!

 

[Wolfhunter]

I can't even imagine a Pakistani can support someone who believes that Israel is defending itself against Palestinian aggression.



Tujhe kaisay pata chala main ne tujhay pehchaan lia hai? Indian false flagger!

I’m not Indian mate. Happy to show @WebMaster my ID card to prove this. You guys are obsessed with conspiracy theories .