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A group at University of Queensland physicists have used light particles to simulate a key process that indicates how time travel might be possible despite well-known clashing theories.

Led by PhD student Martin Ringbauer, the research will add to the study of how time travel could be possible and how core scientific theory quantum mechanics might change in new environments.

The team was able to send single particles of light, known as photons, along a path in space-time that returns the travelling object to the same point at an earlier time, known as a closed timelike curve.

"This research is certainly not a demonstration of time travel or proof it's possible. We were starting from the point to discover what would happen if it was possible," Ringbauer told Fairfax Media.

Ringbauer says the intriguing issue at the heart of this research was not the science-fiction potential but the insights time travel might give in the incompatible relationship between successful scientific theories: Einstein’s general relativity, and quantum mechanics.

While time travel is possible in Einstein's theory of general relativity with closed timelike curves, it seems to cause several deal-breaking paradoxes in the real world.

One such issue that even the unscientific can understand is the "grandfather paradox", in which the person embarking upon a time travel mission could prevent their grandparents from meeting, blocking their eventual birth and therefore the opportunity to ever take the trip.

“Quantum systems can exist in a mixture of existing and non-existing states. In the classical state, you can either exist or not, but quantum systems can operte in both which resolves the paradoxes and time-travel can be formulated in a self-consitent way," Ringbauer said.

Unfortunately for those mulling over which key historical moment they're keen to hit up first, the classical state is physical objects, such as humans.

"We've not made any comment about the macroscopic case, which presents many paradoxes which makes it implausible."

Another issue for aspiring century skippers is the existence of closed timelike curves, which are possible but as yet only in theory with extreme gravitational effects such as blackholes which could skew the quantum physics rules.

The study has been published in academic journal Nature. The scientists involved were Matthew A Broome, Casey R Myers and Andrew G White.

University of Queensland physics professor Tim Ralph told The Spectator the study provides insights in to where and how nature may behave differently from how current theories predict.

“The properties of quantum particles are ‘fuzzy’ or uncertain to start with, so this gives them enough wiggle room to avoid inconsistent time travel situations,” he said, adding there were situations where standard quantum rules did not apply, such as near black holes.

The team used mathematical equivalence to map the journey of two different photon pathways travelling along a closed timelike curve.

The first photon travelled trough a wormhole into the past. It then interacted with a photon simulated to stand in as the first's older version.

A second photon was sent through normal space-time and interacted with a photon that was forever trapped in the closed timelike curve.

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So today it is Photon....Tomorrow Jurassic Park?
Aussie scientists' time travel breakthrough | Stuff.co.nz
 
A group at University of Queensland physicists have used light particles to simulate a key process that indicates how time travel might be possible despite well-known clashing theories.

Led by PhD student Martin Ringbauer, the research will add to the study of how time travel could be possible and how core scientific theory quantum mechanics might change in new environments.

The team was able to send single particles of light, known as photons, along a path in space-time that returns the travelling object to the same point at an earlier time, known as a closed timelike curve.

"This research is certainly not a demonstration of time travel or proof it's possible. We were starting from the point to discover what would happen if it was possible," Ringbauer told Fairfax Media.

Ringbauer says the intriguing issue at the heart of this research was not the science-fiction potential but the insights time travel might give in the incompatible relationship between successful scientific theories: Einstein’s general relativity, and quantum mechanics.

While time travel is possible in Einstein's theory of general relativity with closed timelike curves, it seems to cause several deal-breaking paradoxes in the real world.

One such issue that even the unscientific can understand is the "grandfather paradox", in which the person embarking upon a time travel mission could prevent their grandparents from meeting, blocking their eventual birth and therefore the opportunity to ever take the trip.

“Quantum systems can exist in a mixture of existing and non-existing states. In the classical state, you can either exist or not, but quantum systems can operte in both which resolves the paradoxes and time-travel can be formulated in a self-consitent way," Ringbauer said.

Unfortunately for those mulling over which key historical moment they're keen to hit up first, the classical state is physical objects, such as humans.

"We've not made any comment about the macroscopic case, which presents many paradoxes which makes it implausible."

Another issue for aspiring century skippers is the existence of closed timelike curves, which are possible but as yet only in theory with extreme gravitational effects such as blackholes which could skew the quantum physics rules.

The study has been published in academic journal Nature. The scientists involved were Matthew A Broome, Casey R Myers and Andrew G White.

University of Queensland physics professor Tim Ralph told The Spectator the study provides insights in to where and how nature may behave differently from how current theories predict.

“The properties of quantum particles are ‘fuzzy’ or uncertain to start with, so this gives them enough wiggle room to avoid inconsistent time travel situations,” he said, adding there were situations where standard quantum rules did not apply, such as near black holes.

The team used mathematical equivalence to map the journey of two different photon pathways travelling along a closed timelike curve.

The first photon travelled trough a wormhole into the past. It then interacted with a photon simulated to stand in as the first's older version.

A second photon was sent through normal space-time and interacted with a photon that was forever trapped in the closed timelike curve.

@Skull and Bones, your input @Developereo @Dem!god @wolfschanzze @AUSTERLITZ @levina @scorpionx @Marshmallow @jbgt90 @OrionHunter @Jazzbot @Strigon @BDforever

So today it is Photon....Tomorrow Jurassic Park?
Aussie scientists' time travel breakthrough | Stuff.co.nz
went over my head :suicide:
 
i hardly think that possible...
travelling back in time...will break the many rules of space- time concept

if someone can prevent his grandfather coitus that means his father was not born and so was he..and if he didn't existed ib the first place how can he time travell back....
+ just think of the infinite changes that these two have brought in the universe...will it just disappear like nothing....its a classical time paradox....
not possible...
u can go in future but not back in time....or if u can go back in.time u can't change anything but can only observe....that will be the rule..
 
The first photon travelled trough a wormhole into the past. It then interacted with a photon simulated to stand in as the first's older version.

My little brain tells me this is not time travel this is tele porting-
The photon traveled trough a wormhole into the past- thats a very big assumption-
 
I'm sure you are aware of what top secret American Black Projects are up to. There's one called, 'Project Looking Glass'. Heard of it?

Looking Glass Technology

This deals with the physics of seeing the effects of an artificially-produced gravity wave on time. This -- as with the other projects -- all embraced gravity and the control of it, and therefore the control of Space/Time as the key element.

This is a device using wormhole technology to see into future probability or past. One of the things that scientists found is that they could actually use it as a peering portal, like a peering glass, if you will, to see different aspects of, not only the future, but the past. However, this device could not focus on a detailed sequence of activities in the future. In other words, you could not see exactly what would happen, like a series of events.

Consider the multiverse idea combined with work by Richard Gott on cosmic strings. The multiverse apparently is accessed when the forward mode is set. Consider the views provided by looking glass as one of many potential realities (at least in the future view mode). In viewing some possible future events, it was discovered that this type of technology was a possible contributing factor to a cataclysmic event.

The groups using the technology all agreed to dismantle the technology and agreed not to use it until after the year 2017. Tt isn't known why. It was also discovered that information about this technology had been purposely planted in the past in many areas of the world. One such place was Iraq, which has been confiscated.

Science fiction? Classified Technology is rumored to be 100 years ahead of mainstream science and technology is accelerating away from the public sector technology at a current rate of 50 years per calendar year!! We probably have FTL technology too that only a select few are aware of. Remember Alternate 3?

Here's more... http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/LookingGlass_2.doc
 
It was also discovered that information about this technology had been purposely planted in the past in many areas of the world. One such place was Iraq, which has been confiscated.

Thats interesting- Wonder why the people of the future only plant certain information and not the whole damn deal-
 
It will be interesting if we can travel back in time and change a few little things.

went over my head :suicide:

To be honest, same here. I think we should leave the part "how it is done". Rather, we both should focus on "what to do when time travel becomes possible". That will be more fun.
 
wondering if the whole idea of time travel is for some elite few- that will require secrecy-
Spot on! Have you heard of MJ 12 and Alternative 3? Not only time travel but more importantly FTL (faster than light) travel. It's possible but that would require a whole new thread to explain!

Some stuff is so secret that even the President of the USA cannot penetrate the secrecy! You would be surprised if I told you that there are 17 levels of secrecy above what the President can access!! And you must have heard about the secret shadow government of the US of A!

If not, then here's the gen. This will blow your mind! THE SECRET SHADOW GOVERNMENT
 
You know who we need to make sence of all of this?

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Let them first decide what "time" really means, then we can talk about "travel". The concept and nature of "time" is not fully understood. Several times in recent past such findings were found to be faulty and full of third-grade BS.
 
Fiction , its better to invest money in , Body vessel research clone your own body age of 18 year old when you turn 40 , switch over to your body of 18 year old again and off you go another 20 + years
 
i hardly think that possible...
travelling back in time...will break the many rules of space- time concept

if someone can prevent his grandfather coitus that means his father was not born and so was he..and if he didn't existed ib the first place how can he time travell back....
+ just think of the infinite changes that these two have brought in the universe...will it just disappear like nothing....its a classical time paradox....
not possible...
u can go in future but not back in time....or if u can go back in.time u can't change anything but can only observe....that will be the rule..
going back in time is possible at least in theory..but you can't change anything over there but will be a viewer only and that too is possible only if we have something which can travel faster than light which is atleast in present impossible.

but going in future i am not sure how it is possible.
 
going back in time is possible at least in theory..but you can't change anything over there but will be a viewer only and that too is possible only if we have something which can travel faster than light which is atleast in present impossible.

but going in future i am not sure how it is possible.
how going back in time is possible....???
going in future is possible if u can travel with speed of light...the time around u will slow down...making u leap in future...or u can use wormhole....if u can find one to fit u...
 

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