At current rates, Bangladesh could top India's per capita income by 2020

[Bilal9]

1. Payra 1.32 GW Coal Power Station - most of the work complete and due to open next year
2. Roopur Nuclear Power Station - work already started
3. Matarbari 1.2 GW Coal Power Station - work already started

Civil works are 60% completed at Matarbari and 95% at Rooppur (buildings and dormitories complete). I had posted pictures somewhere.

 

[bluesky]

How many times have you been told BD has only been independent since 1971?
You are polluting this forum with constant garbage.

And, how many times I will have to teach BD development started from 1947 and it almost stopped after 1971. Only now, it has started. Stop your idiotic imagination, crying baby. With this kind of idiotic mind, you want BD to develop by 2041? Study and learn, there are many information that you do not know and want us to forget.

 

[fallstuff]

Bhai @bluesky - I am disappointed. You are entitled to your own opinion but your patriotism toward the very land (Bangladesh) which (supposedly, according to your flag) gave birth to you and your ancestors is in question.

Your patriotism is now circumspect because you sing the praises of a country called India which most Bangladeshis consider step-motherly and which is consistently working to halt and disrupt our progress to keep us subjugated in every sphere. While you deride achievements in the country of your birth at every opportunity. Seems like you are fine with Bangladesh being a vassal state and captive economy for India.

With all due respect, please change your flag from Bangladesh to an Indian flag, if your love for India exceeds that of Bangladesh (like your comments above show). The level of fervent propaganda for Indian 'achievements' by Chaiwala bhakts is exceeded only by that of fifth-columnist India-sycophants in Bangladesh. Non-Muslims can be Bangladeshi Patriots too - you know.

If you choose not to be one - my condolences.

This bluesky used to go by the name eastwatch. Then he disappeared for a long time only to return as bluesky I think.

 

[Bilal9]

This bluesky used to go by the name eastwatch. Then he disappeared for a long time only to return as bluesky I think.

Bhai in my opinion if you don't love Bangladesh then you don't deserve to display a Bangladeshi flag under your handle. I'm sorry but that is how I feel.

 

[bluesky]

Civil works are 60% completed at Matarbari and 95% at Rooppur (buildings and dormitories complete). I had posted pictures somewhere.

"28 JAN 2018
Bangladesh begins construction of 1.2GW Matarbari power plant
By Compelo Staff Writter

State-owned Coal Power Generation Company Bangladesh (CPGCBL) has broken ground on a 1.2GW Matarbari power plant in Cox's Bazar District, Bangladesh".

Matarbari ground breaking was done on 28 January, and now an always stupid @Bilal9 claims 60% work is complete. Read the news below about Rooppur nuclear power plant. It started only in December 2017. It will be commissioned in 2023. But, here you are fabricating the reality by saying 95% complete. What a filthy Awami League crony you are!! This is how you drink a Taka300/cup tea in the Golden Bengal? Stop fabricating, lying, boasting and whining all the time. BD is disliked by other people because your type of people are numerous here.

BANGLADESH

Preparation for construction of Rooppur NPP, the country's first nuclear power plant
Location: 160 km away from Dhaka on the eastern bank of the Ganges, Pabna District
Project specifications: Construction of two power units with VVER reactors (2,4 GW total capacity) launched in December 2017. Comissioning is scheduled for 2022 and 2023. Apart from NPP construction and commissioning, Russia will construct all required infrastructure facilities.

 

[fallstuff]

Bhai in my opinion if you don't love Bangladesh then you don't deserve to display a Bangladeshi flag under your handle. I'm sorry but that is how I feel.

His account could be compromised.

His older posts used to be pro-Bangladeshi, not anymore, also noticed he doesn't say Bangladesh anymore but BD, however love using the word India.

He also has the SOP of an Indian troll. As they say, if it looks like duck, quack likes a duck, it is a duck !!

 

[Bilal9]

His account could be compromised.

His older posts used to be pro-Bangladeshi, not anymore, also noticed he doesn't say Bangladesh anymore but BD, however love using the word India.

He also has the SOP of an Indian troll. As they say, if it looks like duck, quack likes a duck, it is a duck !!

My thoughts exactly!!

 

[Black_cats]

@Desert Fox

A lot of these people are so obsessed with Pakistan (that you brought up in another thread), and similarly for India etc....simply because they are extremely illiterate...at a basic functional level. Take this guy for example, (the one that starts dozens of repetitive threads each week)....he literally cannot do basic reading:



Response (I even underlined for him):

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/at-c...ta-income-by-2020.560772/page-5#post-10527798

Then literally he cannot read that (or incapable to digest basic English) and copy pastes his hissy fit BD style, and three further morons thank him lol: @kaykay @Gibbs @Ryuzaki @madokafc

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/at-c...ta-income-by-2020.560772/page-6#post-10528819

Just complete repeating, nothing went in or out the illiterate hot air cranial space.



Let us see if arrow pointing (from the source posted already that he is again too illiterate to click and read) might help (place your bets ):

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=175399

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So its no surprise they park their illiterate retarded behinds on this forum and stay put lol....I guess when you are illiterate to this level and just copy and repeat the same thing...why would you even realise an argument is lost and you should leave (if you keep losing them and your feelz are hurt) or concede and learn if you want to stay? Expecting too much of them basically.

They have basic reading comprehension problems....forget math and logic (which would need the base to be somewhat sound first)

Thus its not surprising that they are unable to figure out why I point out the importance of inflation when comparing incomes, when they frigging open up the issue in the first place by their stupidity (comparing incomes in 1960, 1980, 1990 and whichever years directly...like only a complete economics illiterate would):

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/at-c...ta-income-by-2020.560772/page-4#post-10527573

and then they throw a hissy fit because they are unable to understand why this is a problem, and complain of "we are not talking of inflation" and "stop changing subject" when THEY LITERALLY BROUGHT IT UP (but unable to realise that) comparing over decades of income patterns...lol.

It seems BD people here are literally fine with earning some X income in USD if its close to or surpasses some other country (that they have deep rooted inferiority complex with)....even if that income literally can only buy them a grain of rice on the ground because of their inflation and atrocious domestic purchasing power.

This is how desperate they are, no wonder they buy into every other fake number their govt throws at them, past and present. Complete most illiterate sheeple country in the world by far. No wonder they start all these topics with such frequency (often on the same exact subject: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladesh-could-well-march-past-india-on-the-growth-path.561013/),..... lose badly and then cry and whine and/or use sour grapes complex....or whatever else can pacify their butthurt feelz.

Fair enough India's GNI is 124,916 INR which is 1854 USD which is only around 100 USD more now but in 2011 which was 87% more and Bangladesh will overtake India's GNI within 2 year as the article indicated.

Stick to the topic, idiot instead of writing essay. We are not talking about inflation as that is a different topic. Looking at the progress butt hurt start to the slum dwellers Bihari Dalit like you who is posting with false fag of Canada.

It is surprising how mods are allowing this troll to spam the forum with same stuff again and again. I guess last time the mods banned you was not good enough. Now it requires a long term ban.

 

[Bilal9]

Fair enough India's GNI is 124,916 INR which is 1854 USD which is only around 100 USD more now but in 2011 which was 87% more and Bangladesh will overtake India's GNI within 2 year as the article indicated.

Stick to the topic, idiot instead of writing essay. We are not talking about inflation as that is a different topic. Looking at the progress butt hurt start to the slum dwellers Bihari Dalit like you who is posting with false fag of Canada.

It is surprising how mods are allowing this troll to spam the forum with same stuff again and again. I guess last time the mods banned you was not good enough. Now it requires a long term ban.

He was banned multiple times, not just once. Complete lost case of psychosis and obsession now. How many times he's been told to get lost by Bangladeshis here - I can't even count. I've seen this scary obsession in some people who don't get enough protein. Belongs to a sanatorium.

 

[Black_cats]

He was banned multiple times, not just once. Complete lost case of psychosis and obsession now. How many times he's been told to get lost by Bangladeshis here - I can't even count. I've seen this scary obsession in some people who don't get enough protein. Belongs to a sanatorium.

Obsession is one thing and posting off topic content not related to the article is nothing but deliberate attempt to derail the thread and worse trolling.

 

[Bilal9]

His account could be compromised.

His older posts used to be pro-Bangladeshi, not anymore, also noticed he doesn't say Bangladesh anymore but BD, however love using the word India.

He also has the SOP of an Indian troll. As they say, if it looks like duck, quack likes a duck, it is a duck !!

@fallstuff and @Black_cats bhais look at post #110 above and see how bluesky has started bad-mouthing me and talking exactly like that retard.

See how he cherry picks only part of what I said. I said civil works percentages complete, not whole project.

I will find my rooppur images post.

Then - a Hindu guy blaming someone (me?) to be an AL crony - of all things?? Classic retard comment.

 

[Centaur]

And, how many times I will have to teach BD development started from 1947 and it almost stopped after 1971. Only now, it has started

Yes that's the reason I suggested you to stop screwing Bangladesh whenever you have a chance.
Don't forget it was you who even posted two threads related to buying combat aircraft after watching youtube crap videos and then faced heavy critisim by BD folks.

That time I spoke for you admiring your patriotism ( that is long gone) and passion about the development of Bangladesh.

Now you are trying to become over smart and don't want to give Bangladesh only 10 stable political years.
Can't you wait till 2030 before talking like pseudo intellectuals?
Or are you one of them ?
Since you understand that after 1971 the development was stopped and it has started after 2009 ( after the destructive 5 years of BNP regime when we were dying because of 16/17 hours loadsheding in a day, and you peoples were living happy life outside BD and you will never realize the pain of victims), and then hellish democratic right movement started and it was in pick in 2013 and almost the entire year was Hartal.
Then 2014 - 2015 was a mess of petrol bombing.
So actually when BD was stable like India? That you even compared the 3 stable years ( after the annihilation of petrol bomb gang ) with 100 year of India.
Give BD 100 stable years, and look where BD reach.
Critisim is good thing, but directly bashing BD and serving the purpose of adversaries is not healthy thing to do.
So before big mouthing try to analysis the situation, and regional political negetive atmosphere.

@bluesky

 

[Cybernetics]

It will be around 35 years not 25 years. It is not a big deal. In 1990 Korea's per capita GDP was 6,516.31 USD and in 1980 it was 1,704.47 USD.

I really like your optimism and contributions in many threads....but this kind of post is more like delusion......BD is not just 25 years behind South Korea....the gap is much wider...and an average person in BD cannot afford 200tk tea or coffee. Simply bragging doesn't make anything better off.....

Based on texts from various Chinese institutions, the average economic development of China is about 20-25 years behind South Korea. After a certain point its not just about density of highways and rail. Though in terms of industrial technology this gap is smaller (where there are comparables).

An interesting piece of literature compiled by CAS (China Academy of Sciences) called 'China Modernization Report 2005' which outlined China's structural development up until 2100. The book compiled data of modernization from the past 300 years from 131 countries and concluded a list of lessons. Unfortunately there isn't an English edition but I can translate snippets of it.

It is projected China will complete is industrial revolution around 2030-2035 (basic industrialization) which Western Europe and America finished around mid to late 19th century. Then transition into the information age. Due to the compressed timelines, the transition would be overlapping as the seed had been planted in the current era. China employs what it calls the "canal strategy" or "general modernization", it can be understood as leapfrogging and doesn't mean just focus on post industrial service sector but the next industrial revolution, since certain paths had been optimised when global development data is looked at. If implemented correctly this avoids excessive expansion for the peak phase and massive de-industrialization that follows but is noted as "high risk, high reward". Every aspect of development is targeted at jumping towards the next phase, profit is not the primary short term goal.

For Bangladesh this means looking at its core competencies and working towards the information age and industry 4.0 version of it. If Bangladesh is naturally competitive in apparel, seek to upgrade it into the information era, same case for shipbuilding, not entirely abandon industry for a pure information economy which is not sustainable for a country the size of Bangladesh. The high reward aspect of leapfrogging is obvious but the high risk comes from the inability of the economy to support this productivity gain. This might cause distortions in the economy and possibly high unemployment if resources are not allocated properly and skills not properly distributed. The nation has to force (through market and non market means) those who isn't with the program to learn to be part of the program. Farmers need to learn new skills, children learn about new industries, industrialists build new industries, existing workers need to upgrade their knowledge and government provide the necessary resources and framework. It is a "general modernization", all sectors need to build up the knowledge base before crossing the "canal". Institutions like universities are good places for early knowledge accumulation. For industries like agriculture, going by pure market forces would take too long for the knowledge gap to be bridged since knowledge accumulation in this population is slow but they can apply it quickly when private enterprise or institutions trains them.

The reason for choosing this canal strategy is because China had built up the foundation for it during the 1980s and is confident in the availability of resources (human capital and institutions) to facilitate the crossing.

Bangladesh is still early in its industrialization, and has time to prepare for crossing the "canal". In the mean time, people need to acquire more skills in IT, new manufacturing, STEM subjects (basic knowledge should be compulsory), ecological development, modern agriculture, and other future areas. Have a hobby in building something, growing something, learning something new. Not everyone has to be a scientist, engineer, or entrepreneur but that groups needs to exist, the other group are people who can effectively apply the knowledge, meaning they need to be literate, disciplined, and have a good work ethic. The most important thing is the skills within the people, if that is available the capital will follow.

Development is a long road. It is not easily complete within a few decades but we will see stunning progress along the way. Bangladesh does have some favourable natural factors and these factors would provide very important competitive advantages.

It is my firm belief that Bangladesh is following the East Asian pattern of development to a 'tee'. The reason is that a lot of these labor-intensive low-value-addition industries (garments, shoes, leather goods, toys, light engg. and kitchen products at the 1st phase of development) are no longer subsidized in East Asia (except Vietnam and Indonesia). Bangladesh is in this phase now.

They (China, Korea, Taiwan) have moved on to focus on producing much higher value items (2nd phase products) such as machined metallic items, general automotive, electronics and in some cases high-tech audio/video/networking electronics products just like the Japanese twenty years ago. The govt. subsidies in China now focuses on those industries.

Japan itself has moved on to very niche items in certain well-established extremely specialized product segments (3rd phase) where their expensive value addition (high-precision critical products with close micro tolerances) can make sense. They compete with German Mittelstand firms and US firms for these segments.

Great analysis, I like the breakdown into phases.

 

[Bilal9]

Brother @Cybernetics I really appreciate your discussing the 'canal strategy' with us. The basic points you discussed are very sound.

From general observation I can tell you that relatively few (<5%) in Bangladesh practice the culture of tinkering in the garage like I see in the US population (the 'picking up a hobby' or skill specialization trait is generally absent in the whole subcontinent and students are implored to memorize theory in rote fashion in order to become a successful doctor or an engineer).

There are about one percent of the folks though who are serious tinkerers (mostly more wealthier than middle class folks). Lower and lower-middle-class artisan type folks have little STEM education but they are amazingly resourceful in improvising means to accomplish an industrial goal (not as resourceful as Chinese technical folks but close).

The govt. is working toward setting up vocational schools, providing tax breaks to private entrepreneurs and subsidized STEM programs and IT skills centers to educate younger students who do not have access and financial means. See here,

http://www.summittechnopolis.com/

I do not worry about STEM, IT or back-office skills because those are well established education regimes in neighboring India and Bangladesh. There are already numerous IT parks all over Bangladesh at various stages of construction and they do offer training.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Hi-Tech_Park_Authority

https://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2014/04/21/hi-tech-park-offers-free-it-training

What I have concerns about is training non-educated folks in basic vocations like metalworking, welding, metal item fabrication and machining. The number of people who can operate CNC lathes or EDM machines are growing, but we definitely have a long way to go to prepare enough workers in a hierarchical skill-base for these skills. A clear plan to develop vocational skills and the mechanism/resources needed to achieve this goal was mooted by the govt. I will post it in a few days if possible.

 

[sbmc27]

Agreed Bhai, and I have said it year back.
I have posted only few times and it includes accusations of Bluesky being false flagger.
@bilal
@UKBengali
@Homo Sapiens

His account could be compromised.

His older posts used to be pro-Bangladeshi, not anymore, also noticed he doesn't say Bangladesh anymore but BD, however love using the word India.

He also has the SOP of an Indian troll. As they say, if it looks like duck, quack likes a duck, it is a duck !!

Only one word comes in my 'Dalal', yet it is sufficient to describe your moronic attribute to appease vested quarter.
Are there no place places in bd?
Let alone technical aspects.

On this same issue you have opened dozens of threads.
Would you please carefully read the thread to the down.
What others saying, what are the concerns?
Thanks.