Arrangements made for Baloch leader Brahamdagh Bugti’s stay in India

[Hellfire]

I hope the violence doesn't escalate any further in the redemption process. The toll has not been small on the "units"

I share the sentiments sir. I sincerely do!

 

[F.O.X]

No matter how unpleasant it is, But it will give us an unofficial reason to back Dawood Ibrahim and give him resources in abundance to create terror right in the heart of delhi and mumbai.

That and another tactical reason ... that i why I am praying that india does not back track from this.

 

[Areesh]

I completely agree with the Govt. of India POV that states that the Baglihar Dam is just a run of the river project

But you can look at articles in the DAWN that says its not 'run of the river' and accurately states its storage capacity. I cannot yet post a link but a simple google search will lead you to that article.

You might want to ask yourself WHY is the Govt. of pakistan running to the WB with comlaints about the Baglihar dam.


Like I said, India has no reason to walk away from the IWT, especially since we are free to do what we want under the shadow of the IWT.

I have read all the articles and I know what I am talking about.

And you need to make up your mind about IWT. First you were tearing it apart and now you want India to work under it.

Typical troll behavior. Have seen many confused trolls like you make an as$ out of themselves on different issues.

 

[third eye]

Do you want D-Company to be reactivated again ? and this time D-Company wouldnot be a criminal enterprise believe me !

Let them do their worst. In fact what is ISI waiting for ?

MMS is not the PM anymore .

Why we want to poke a country which has a record of irresponsible behavior ??

The answer lies in your question.

OT: what are you actually trying to say is that India has got every right to interfere in other countries` internal matter?

I am saying that two can play the game.

 

[Areesh]

I have never advocated tearing up the IWT, I am asking YOU to tear it up.

As far as I am concerned, the IWT is in the ICU fighting for its life. While we are busy building Dam's and canals that are in violation of the treaty and have suspended the Indus water commission indefinitely.

How is this troll behaviour ? I am only talking about what the GoI has already DONE. Nothing I have said is a fantasy, I have only posted Facts. Can you point to one lie in my post ?

I am happy with the status quo. Are you ?

We won't tern anything.

I am not going to debate much with you on this fantasy of yours. All you said is fantasy.

Go stop our water or whatever you want to instead of trolling here.

We have already seen empty threats from @Stephen Cohen Don't be another one of those jokers.

 

[Areesh]

I see, so the list of 15 dam's on your rivers is a 'fantasy' of mine ? These are matters of public records, and some of these dam's cost over 2 billion $.

This is the view of the artificial lake formed due to the Khwar dam, and this is one of the smaller dam's. It has a Live storage of the reservoir is 36,167 Acre Feet.

No fantasy, just cold hard reality.

Yup they are your fantasy. They are part of your fantasy to stop Pakistan's water.

As I said before around a dozen times. Go stop our water. We already have had enough of your empty threats.

As for this khwar dam. Do provide more details. Only Khwar dam I know is this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duber_Khwar_Hydroelectric_Plant#Dam

And it is in Pakistan and it is also a run on the river project.

 

[Areesh]

Kiru Dam is a 135 mtr Dam, 40 kms from Kishtwar. It will generate 624 MW and is on the river Chenab.

Kwar Dam is a 109 mtr high Dam, 31 kms form Kishtwar and will produce 540 MW and is also on the Chenab.

I can't post links, but you can google it.

Lol Khwar dam and that picture you posted were of a Pakistani dam.

The rest you mentioned are all small run on the river projects.

Go stop our water. Do it and don't just brag about it on this forum. @Stephen Cohen is already enough for petty threats.

 

[hassan zohaib]

That is so cute.

You want to deny us the right to interfere in your country while you boldly hold on to Dawood Ibrahim and Hafiz Saeed. I think that boat has already left the dock.


We are coming around to the pakistani idea of supporting 'Freedom Fighters', but we will fight all 'terrorists'. No problem there.


Let us know when you have SUCCEEDED in ending the man made destruction, suffering etc. THEN we have something to talk about. Till then, why waste our breath by making meaningless speeches ? Action is always better and conveys a much stronger message.

i am saying whosoever does this is wrong but i am also saying that " without evidence" how could you label that somebody is terrorist or not? if you have strong evidence about Hafiz saeed then you should go in ICJ in Hague till then dont boggle your mind from the propaganda created by RTP`s-hungry media by your side. as far as DI is concerned then he is known for his terrorist activites and drug cartels then he should be punished but if you think that he is in Pakistan then you should take to UN as well and easily can ditch Pakistan.

The settled or un-settled argument which i raised in my previous post was for this argument of yours. if we support freedom fighters in Kashmir we do so because we have got every right to do so there because it is a disputed territory irrespective of the fact that by doing so we have hurt Kashmiris freedom struggle. i was saying it is wrong on the paper but if you want to do same then you are most welcome. pak would do whatever it can to save its sancitity of geography.

we have conveyed our message but we cant oblivious of our security. it is very well known fact we have been putting across such signals which need to be thought as peace signals but what if our signals are being considered our weakness? if somebody supports TTP to orchestrate terrorism in Pakistan & continues to be belligerent in different ways and then victim country give you peace signals then belligerent does not consider it so then what victim country can do to save its country.

 

[-xXx-]

Like someone is saying, This kind of jingoism doesnot suit people like you. Take a ride through slums of delhi and mumbai, especially where muslims are in majority. Fault lines run so deep in these slums that D-company would be a perfect enterprise to exploit these fault lines and to use to their advantage. Possibility is endless. Think for a minute.

Utter BS.

If Indian Mujahideen and Simi can not garner that, what an up rooted criminal gang named D company can do?

And please dont insult Indian muslims by terming them as wannabe terrorists. They are unlike yours.

 

[hassan zohaib]

Let them do their worst. In fact what is ISI waiting for ?

MMS is not the PM anymore .



The answer lies in your question.



I am saying that two can play the game.

buddy are you not fed up with this game. because it is being played since our inception.
bus kr do bus
bus kr do bus.
let the masses live in peace and happiness.

 

[Areesh]

Its already happening,.

Good. That would satisfy your fantasy.

and stop posting pictures of Pakistani projects. Learn more about your projects so that you appear to be less of a low class troll.

 

[mastaan]

Tissot, IWT is one of the longest standing treaties on water sharing in the world... India is doing what it is doing to create pressure... Touching IWT in reality will not be a walk in the park... International tribunals would not be amused... Baglihar is another thing and can and should be done... But, IWT is not a piece of paper mate.. It is a corner stone of diplomacy between two nations, that has stood thru wars... you don't and can't tear down such treaties just like that

 

[hassan zohaib]

You are absolutely right, which is why unlike other foolish Indians I am NOT going to engage in a debate with you.

As far as I am concerned, its a waste of my time.

You are free to have Dawood Ibrahim and Hafiz Saeed and India should support and encourage more bugti and other baloch leaders.

Feel free to support kashmiris while India will support Balochistan freedom fighters.


Just let me know when you change your mind. Tata bye bye.

as far as iknow this is a forum for debate. BTW most debates b/w indians and Pakistanis dont reach to conclusions. because they do just for winning purpose and not for knowledge or some benificial purpose. so please sane Indian dont waste your time which you started by responding to my post.

we Pakistanis can brag on this attribute that if we dont have any argument left to support our assertion then we accept this and dont choose pricks and dont become poddler and do not return on " i am right and nobody can".

i always manage to spare time to make somebody realize how illogical their arguments are. so feel free to speak.

and and and dear sane Indian it was nice to talk you. thnx

 

[-xXx-]

i am saying whosoever does this is wrong but i am also saying that " without evidence" how could you label that somebody is terrorist or not? if you have strong evidence about Hafiz saeed then you should go in ICJ in Hague till then dont boggle your mind from the propaganda created by RTP`s-hungry media by your side. as far as DI is concerned then he is known for his terrorist activites and drug cartels then he should be punished but if you think that he is in Pakistan then you should take to UN as well and easily can ditch Pakistan.

The settled or un-settled argument which i raised in my previous post was for this argument of yours. if we support freedom fighters in Kashmir we do so because we have got every right to do so there because it is a disputed territory irrespective of the fact that by doing so we have hurt Kashmiris freedom struggle. i was saying it is wrong on the paper but if you want to do same then you are most welcome. pak would do whatever it can to save its sancitity of geography.

we have conveyed our message but we cant oblivious of our security. it is very well known fact we have been putting across such signals which need to be thought as peace signals but what if our signals are being considered our weakness? if somebody supports TTP to orchestrate terrorism in Pakistan & continues to be belligerent in different ways and then victim country give you peace signals then belligerent does not consider it so then what victim country can do to save its country.

Interesting.

1- LeT aka JuD is banned terrorist organisation under UN. Can you deny Hafiz Saeed lead role in JuD? Or him being founding member of LeT?

2- Massod Azhar - again founder of banned terror org JeM. Please tell me how was he got released from Indian prison? IC814 hijack?

Based on UN, these people and their assets are freezed all over the world. They can only roam within Pakistan or in some other friendly states under disguise.

 

[mastaan]

Cool story Bro

Now how about those list of 15 dam's on the pakistani rivers ? Actually that is not a full list, its only a partial list.

I am all in support of the IWT, as long as we get to do what we want to do. And thanks to pakistan offering us an excellent opportunity to do just that, I am happy to see us seizing that opportunity to make hay while the sun shines.

And when finally the dust settles, India will have a multitude of Dam's on the Indus, chenab and Jhelum river AND we get to play god and make peace on our terms.

So I have no intention of threatening to tear down the IWT, I assure you. I like it just the way it is. Cheers.



I have made my point. There is noting left to debate.

We only have something to talk AFTER you change your mind . So when you do that, let me know.

We have struggled big time on making dams... it needs dislocation of communities, lots of politics etc etc... I am sure when the govt makes up the mind.. run of the rive dams would not be a problem... Those can be done within the ambit of IWT easily... only thing i do worry about is excess chest thumping that is going on in press these days... We lose a lot of initiative and higher standing because of that