Army's training aircraft crashes near Gujrat, killing both pilots

[rockstar08]

It was a Mashaq aircraft belonging to the PAA.

Oh, ok thanks for correcting, but don't you think the crashes are becoming common ? something is wrong ..
our young and highly skilled pilots are dying ..

 

[LeGenD]

Flying coffins that need to replaced now. Probably same rfurbished american trainers which we keep reburbishing again and again an again

The aircraft in question was a Pakistani Super Mushak.

I don't think that PAF uses any American trainer.

 

[T-72M1]

sad news, RIP

 

[ghazi52]

RIP...................

 

[deckingraj]

sad news....i very well know what is the problem on this side of the border which is babus are busy in licking a$$ of netas and netas busy minting money....can someone plz explain from pakistan is this one off accident or something more sinister??

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

 

[Mughal-Prince]

The aircraft in question was a Pakistani Super Mushak.

I don't think that PAF uses any American trainer.

I think its not super mushaq but the older versions which were still flying in PAA.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Pakistan Govt should investigate the continuous negligence from PAF ..

RIP

Which Pakistan Government run by Nawaz or should we ask previous Zardari's people?

 

[Taygibay]

R.I.P. for both pilot and trainee.

I'm at a loss over why a Mushshak would be unsafe though?
These are good planes with the oldest 35 years young.
I'm serious, many of these air mopeds that are the small Cessnas still fly at that age
and so do even older models dating to the fifties/sixties of many makers worldwide.

If this was a tech problem, it would be valuable to us as observers to have a good
idea of what the accident report will reveal to be the cause. Basically, it would be
either bad maintenance or human error in mechanics. The latter is punctual but the
former is more systemic and must be addressed to prevent more loss of lives.

In this case, we lost a teacher and a promise. Thinking of 2 martyred schools, one
must see that, with the cost of useful folks lost to terrorism already unbearably high, it
makes no sense that any effort be spared to avoid a preventable death from occurring.

Sad out, Tay.

 

[Pandora]

The aircraft in question was a Pakistani Super Mushak.

I don't think that PAF uses any American trainer.

Okkk Sorry mistake i assumed it was PAF

 

[JonAsad]

Let me guess super mushak has no ejection seats?-

 

[Thorough Pro]

It's time pilots should be "ordered" to stop trying to save the planes and lose their lives in the process, planes can be replaced or not, who gives a F**k, pilots lives are more valuable.

 

[Taygibay]

Let me guess super mushak has no ejection seats?-

Not really an easy option on this type of bird, check :

A good Martin_Baker weighs 130-150 lbs almost a tenth of the Super Mushshak's 1,675 lbs empty weight.
Of course, attachments and the whole canopy would have to be redone too and would gain weight. At some
point, you might need to use very light pilots or even take one seat out but the latter would severely impact
formation of the trainees.

And yet, despite all of the above, some sites say it indeed has ejection seats. Not having seen one myself save
on pictures and videos, I can't say for sure but I'd need a few precise images or diagrams to believe it.
How do they clear the canopy without an explosive flange?
Does it fully eject? No pop out charge is apparent!
In any case, what is the 3rd person AKA passenger to do : bail out from the side door? With a parachute?

Maybe someone can tell us who's touched it IRL?

GN all, Tay.

 

[Mr304_AJ]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un.... (إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ).

 

[LeGenD]

Okkk Sorry mistake i assumed it was PAF

No problem, bro.

Not really an easy option on this type of bird, check :

View attachment 292727

A good Martin_Baker weighs 130-150 lbs almost a tenth of the Super Mushshak's 1,675 lbs empty weight.
Of course, attachments and the whole canopy would have to be redone too and would gain weight. At some
point, you might need to use very light pilots or even take one seat out but the latter would severely impact
formation of the trainees.

And yet, despite all of the above, some sites say it indeed has ejection seats. Not having seen one myself save
on pictures and videos, I can't say for sure but I'd need a few precise images or diagrams to believe it.
How do they clear the canopy without an explosive flange?
Does it fully eject? No pop out charge is apparent!
In any case, what is the 3rd person AKA passenger to do : bail out from the side door? With a parachute?

Maybe someone can tell us who's touched it IRL?

GN all, Tay.

Thanks for the share.

Looks like some modification is needed to address this shortcoming.