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At least 2 companies — about 100 soldiers each — in all infantry battalions are being given Sig 716, irrespective of whether they are in the field or at peace stations.



An Indian Army soldier with the Sig 716 rifle | Photo: Snehesh Alex Philip | ThePrint

An Indian Army soldier with the Sig 716 rifle | Photo: Snehesh Alex Philip | ThePrint
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Chaubatia (Uttarakhand): With the much awaited deal for AK 203 getting delayed, the Army is equipping its over 400 infantry battalions with the American Sig Sauer assault rifles, procured under fast-tracked process (FTP), as against the original plan to arm only its frontline troops with the latest weapon.

The Army had initially bought the Sig 716 G2 Patrol assault/battlefield rifles, chambered for the 7.62×51 mm rounds, in 2019 under FTP for frontline soldiers — posted at the borders and involved in counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operations.



However, all infantry battalions are now getting equipped with the American rifles, sources in the defence establishment said.

This will replace some of the obsolete Indian Small Arms System (INSAS) 5.56×45 mm rifles in use for over two decades.

According to the plan, at least two companies (about 100 soldiers each) in all the infantry battalions are being given the Sig 716 — irrespective of whether they are in the field or at peace stations.




The quantity will, however, differ with some of the battalions getting more weapons and the others.

Each infantry battalion of the Army has four companies, commonly referred to as the Alfa, Bravo, Charlie and Delta companies.


However, certain battalions have their own unique names. For example, 1 Mahar as the Whiskey, X Ray, Yankee and Zulu company. 13 Kumaon does not have a Charlie company but is called Rezang La company in honour of the fallen soldiers of C company.



ThePrint had in December 2020 reported that while the initial lot of the modern assault rifles from the US was sent to those guarding the Line of Control with Pakistan and for counter-terrorism operations in Kashmir, troops at the LAC in the northern sector in Ladakh are also being equipped with it now.

In December, the Defence Acquisition Council had accorded approval for the procurement of additional 72,400 Sig 716 rifles for approximately Rs 780 crore. This was also done under FTP and is part of the option clause of the original deal signed in 2019.


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Shoot to kill
The Sig 716 rifles are more accurate and lethal than the INSAS because it has a higher caliber — 7.62 mm as against 5.56 mm.


It was in the 1980s that the Indian Army sought a lighter assault rifle chambered to fire the 5.56×45 mm cartridge. It was meant to provide relief to the Indian soldiers who fought the Siachen battle and the LTTE in Sri Lanka with the 5.1 kg Ishapore 7.62×51 mm rifle, but the INSAS has faced constant issues since its introduction in 1998.

At that time, the Army’s logic was that the rifle should injure an enemy soldier. This meant at least 2-3 other soldiers will be required to take away the injured soldier. However, with warfare tactics changing and the Army getting involved in counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operations too, the force wanted a high caliber weapon that is a “shoot to kill system”.

SiG 716 an instant hit with soldiers
Weighing just 3.82 kg without the magazine, the American rifles were welcomed by the infantry soldiers that ThePrint spoke to.

They explained the rifle has an effective kill range of 600 metres and with greater accuracy than that of the INSAS.

With corking from behind than the side, which is the case in most of the small arms, the rifle becomes ambidextrous.

Even though the butt of the rifle is not collapsible, it comes with six adjustable positions, and hence comes handy in operations.

While the 2019 order for the Sig rifles included a limited set of ammunition, the Army is now using the Ordnance Factory Board rounds meant for the SLR rifles of the late 1980s.

“The Sig 716 is good for operations at the border and also in CI/CT. With a shorter barrel than that of the INSAS, it is good for room intervention operation and for urban warfare,” an officer explained.

AK 203 to be the mainstay of Army
The formal process to replace the INSAS began over a decade ago, but never saw the light of the day. Among the many reasons was the fact that the Army changed specifications for the replacement twice.

It first wanted a dual-caliber rifle which could shoot two types of cartridges — the AK-47 bullet and the INSAS bullet, much to the dismay of every small arms manufacturer in the world. The Army eventually scrapped the process and then demanded a modified INSAS.

However, in 2018, India and Russia announced a deal to jointly manufacture the AK 103, which was then upgraded to AK 203.

On 3 March 2019, Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated an Indo-Russian joint venture, under which AK-203 will be manufactured at the Korwa Ordnance Factory in Uttar Pradesh’s Amethi district.

However, cost negotiations for the over 6 lakh rifles got stuck. This forces the Army to go in for emergency procurement of the SiG 716 rifles in 2019 and again in 2020.

Under the deal, the first 20,000 AK 203 rifles, which will be the mainstay of the armed forces for years to come, will be imported from Russia at a cost of about $1,100 (or Rs 80,000) a piece, depending on the conversion rate.

(Edited by Sanghamitra Mazumdar)

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Army to equip all infantry battalions, not just frontline troops, with US Sig Sauer rifles – ThePrint
 
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We are seeing gradual shift from Russian to US weapon systems in the Indian armed forces.
Actually IAF was shocked by the technology demonstrated by US drones, hence the bulk cumulative orders for Drones.
It’s clear now why Russian PAK-FA fighter was rejected by the IAF.
 
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How easy is it to change the rifle for the entire military knowing you need training, new bullet stocks and all? I reckon it would take years before shift could happen.
 
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This is more procurement insanity, 200 rifles for 400 Battalions = 80,000. That still leaves most of the Battalion using different rifle (thus training and spare parts) and different calibre ammunition (logistics etc) .

What happens when soldiers get posted out? They have to basically relearn many rifle skills too?

Now Indian forces have AK, INSAS and Sig on top of Bren Gun, Sten Gun and some units still with SLR?
 
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This is more procurement insanity, 200 rifles for 400 Battalions = 80,000. That still leaves most of the Battalion using different rifle (thus training and spare parts) and different calibre ammunition (logistics etc) .

What happens when soldiers get posted out? They have to basically relearn many rifle skills too?

Now Indian forces have AK, INSAS and Sig on top of Bren Gun, Sten Gun and some units still with SLR?
Yes, like the guy who had a fleet of Ambassadors and is replacing them according to his ability to pay with a fleet of Maruti Dzires, and can't throw away the three or four Innovas whose would-be owners couldn't keep up with their EMIs. He also has a couple of trucks, and his neighbours usually get around to asking, whenever they have a friendly gup-shup, what the trucks are doing with his cars.

He's gotten used to it by now, and just smiles and presses another laddoo on motor-mouth.

Maybe somebody else will stop giggling long enough to clear up the INSAS/SLR bit, or to explain what happens when a soldier gets posted out from 3 GR to 4 Sikhs.

For me, it's a good end to the day.
 
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Yes, like the guy who had a fleet of Ambassadors and is replacing them according to his ability to pay with a fleet of Maruti Dzires, and can't throw away the three or four Innovas whose would-be owners couldn't keep up with their EMIs. He also has a couple of trucks, and his neighbours usually get around to asking, whenever they have a friendly gup-shup, what the trucks are doing with his cars.

He's gotten used to it by now, and just smiles and presses another laddoo on motor-mouth.

Maybe somebody else will stop giggling long enough to clear up the INSAS/SLR bit, or to explain what happens when a soldier gets posted out from 3 GR to 4 Sikhs.

For me, it's a good end to the day.
This flew so over my head
 
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Maybe somebody else will stop giggling long enough to clear up the INSAS/SLR bit, or to explain what happens when a soldier gets posted out from 3 GR to 4 Sikhs.

For me, it's a good end to the day.
We are seeing gradual shift from Russian to US weapon systems in the Indian armed forces.
Actually IAF was shocked by the technology demonstrated by US drones, hence the bulk cumulative orders for Drones.
It’s clear now why Russian PAK-FA fighter was rejected by the IAF.
That was a long time ago, when the Russians wanted speed and power, and the IAF wanted stealth, and they couldn't agree.

This flew so over my head
Just getting over my long and restful day!
 
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We are seeing gradual shift from Russian to US weapon systems in the Indian armed forces.
Actually IAF was shocked by the technology demonstrated by US drones, hence the bulk cumulative orders for Drones.
It’s clear now why Russian PAK-FA fighter was rejected by the IAF.

True,
but what we have seen and experienced in last 7 or so decades,
the US will ensure they will control the flow of money,
and in time, they will use this equipment to shape your foreign policy,

Don't believe me ?
Look at us.
 
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By sending others in a spin?
:yahoo:

Read your mail. Your DM.

True,
but what we have seen and experienced in last 7 or so decades,
the US will ensure they will control the flow of money,
and in time, they will use this equipment to shape your foreign policy,

Don't believe me ?
Look at us.
When I was trying to do simulation (Sea King, MiG 21, one successful, one only partly successful), I had two entry level Silicon Graphics workstations to work on. I went on an official visit to ST(A), Singapore Technologies (Aerospace), and the kind person in charge of visiting nuisances very kindly asked if I should like to see their computing room. I jumped at it, and was shown into a room that totally destroyed my day, my week, my month...you name it. It was wall-wall, about 30 or so, top-end SG workstations.

No, we did not trust the Yanqui then, and, except for the Hello Modi crowd, don't, even now.
 
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It’s clear now why Russian PAK-FA fighter was rejected by the IAF.
Russians trolled us on that PAK-FA
They have trolled us on AWACS as well in the 1990s

Of course, they have helped in very critical areas like SLBM so overall the Govt is not too salty about it
 
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