Are TURKEY and PAKISTAN really ALLIES?

[Uguduwa]

I am yet to meet someone from Turkey who cares about Pakistan.

 

[waz]

I am yet to meet someone from Turkey who cares about Pakistan.

You need to meet more than one person then. I’ve met loads, been to the place many times as well. Have you read the posts of the many Turks here?

 

[Uguduwa]

You need to meet more than one person then. I’ve met loads, been to the place many times as well. Have you read the posts of the many Turks here?

If I judge a country based on PDF then I would think the entire world is a open door mental hospital.

Turkish I know here are fairly educated middle class though. I don’t interact with religious types.

 

[Genghis khan1]

I have seen the exact same feeling by Pakistan for Gulf nationa in 1990-2010...Now Arabs are replaced by new friends..

There are no free rides, Pakistan needs to show how it’s valuable and relevant for them. (Case in point: Pak handling (blunder) of Syrian Syria/Yemen, when Arabs were looking for help).

Why the heck the these so called rich and powerful muslim allies can not arrange 20 billion with zero interest for Pakistan that could have changed the dynamics of Pakistan economy...

When IMF and GCC can have Pakistan on the hook for constant need of money, and manipulate Pakistan. Why would they let this gig go.

 

[American Pakistani]

Turkeye is not an ally, it's a brother of Pakistan.

And I feel anyone who is questioning Pakistan's relationship with Turkeye or China is just an enemy of Pakistan.

 

[waz]

If I judge a country based on PDF then I would think the entire world is a open door mental hospital.

Turkish I know here are fairly educated middle class though. I don’t interact with religious types.

I’m not talking about PDF, I’m on about the real world. As for authenticity , in this case you should not get anything of the internet full stop.
I know plenty of non religious Turks, this relationship is a cultural and historical thing.

 

[Genghis khan1]

According to the Turkish defense analyst Mete Yarar, Turkey-Pakistan relationship is hidden in the "Historical Code"!!! The folks, who are supporting Turkey now, are the grandkids of the folks who supported Turkey 100 years ago....

Some stuffs simply never change....

It’s older than that. Even before the arrival of Mughals.

Turkey and pakistan relationship is deep and secret militarily. Turkey has access to all strategic secret stuff and vice versa. Its never made public. Why else do you think erdogan would recently accept invitation and visit imran khan in the midst of war in syia?

Also turkey prefers investing all into the tfx instead of purchasing f35 and its not for only the s400 reason.

I wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow Pakistan and Turkey sign a Nuclear umbrella agreement. Or NYT claiming Pakistan is storing Nukes in Turkey for doomsday scenario.

 

[Armchair]

Would have loved to have seen JF-17s over Idlib. Would have cemented that friendship and got another "combat proven" badge. Would have been a great bit of marketing @MastanKhan

 

[Pandora]

As long is Erdogan is there after that all bets are off i guess. Take example of Malaysia after Mahatir resigned entire dynamic of relationship changed.

 

[Uguduwa]

I’m not talking about PDF, I’m on about the real world. As for authenticity , in this case you should not get anything of the internet full stop.
I know plenty of non religious Turks, this relationship is a cultural and historical thing.

If you say so. I haven’t met many from there anyway. Either way doesn’t really matter to me. I just said what I have seen.

 

[Mentee]

What's up with these kinky new resolutions every now and then?

Is anyone feeling insecure?

 

[Yankee-stani]

As long is Erdogan is there after that all bets are off i guess. Take example of Malaysia after Mahatir resigned entire dynamic of relationship changed.

Not really like I said much of the alliance goes back to the Cold War era and CENTO so they are deep and wont go away and besides for Turkey and its Pan Turkic ambitions in near abroad via Afghanistan Pakistan is a key for that

If you say so. I haven’t met many from there anyway. Either way doesn’t really matter to me. I just said what I have seen.

I actually agree with you I have met Turks in the States they barley know anything about Pakistan besides its "Muslim" "nice to Turkey" and a bit more religious thats it

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

For me as being a Turkish, no they are not allies but brothers.

Being siblings is more stronger than anything. This is the reason of why Turks and Paks support each other no matter whatsoever..

 

[Yankee-stani]

Would have loved to have seen JF-17s over Idlib. Would have cemented that friendship and got another "combat proven" badge. Would have been a great bit of marketing @MastanKhan

Doubt they would have gone that far besides the operation was more of bluff for Turkish domestic audience for Erdogan sagging ratings and economy

For me as being a Turkish, no they are not allies but brothers.

Being siblings is more stronger than anything. This is the reason of why Turks and Paks support each other no matter whatsoever..

That's a bit of too much I like Turkey for being a role model but we have too much differences in mindset and a lot of things but Turkey is good ally for Pakistan

 

[Mr.NiceGuy]

That's a bit of too much I like Turkey for being a role model but we have too much differences in mindset and a lot of things but Turkey is good ally for Pakistan

I understand you bro. And respect your thoughts.