Are Pashtuns descendents of lost tribes of Israel?

[RazaGujjar]

Do you have interest in Gujjar history and origins?

Yes, it is very to hard to pinpoint the exact orgins of the Gujjar clan. I have heard many different things.

 

[sady]

Yes, it is very to hard to pinpoint the exact orgins of the Gujjar clan. I have heard many different things.

Having gone through a lot of literature I believe each subcaste of gujjars is actually a different race and the commonality in Gujjars is an empire mid-7th century CE–1036 CE Gurjara Partihara stretching from south India to Georgia and a common language Gojri. Whoever fought this empire and lost but fought valiantly was assimilated as A sub clan. So the Chechi, kassana, kalas and thikari etc are indeed different races of almost equal standing united under the empire. Mongol, hapthalites, white huns, even Syncithians etc. What makes Gujjars distinct from other clans is that it has its own distinct language.

 

[mpk1988]

I have done lot of research on this. People get confused and cant differentiate between Bani Israel and Jews. Jews are followers of a religion, its not a race, however Bani Israel is the race. Just like Arab is a race and you can have a Muslim or Christian within Arabs. From Yaqoob (AS) (Jacob) came 12 sons. We all know Yusuf (AS) (Joseph) and his brothers story. 12 sons = 12 tribes. And thats where the Bani Israel came from. Jews as we see today, and this is the very important point, are only from two tribes of Bani Israel . The rest, the ten tribes were NOT Jewish or got anything to do with the Jews. Pakhtoons are the Bani Israel as mentioned in Quran. They are the ones who comprised of the ten tribes and they are ones who carved the northern kingdom Israel and called themselves Isrealites while the southern kingdom, the Kingdom of Judah comprised of the rest of the tribes, and here in Judah, the Jews came from. The two were sworn enemies and fought for nearly a century until both were destroyed by outside forces and taken captive. In the case of Pakhtoon (the Israelities) by Assyrians who later moved them to Indus plains. and the Jews by the Babylonians. So when Pakhtoon find it repugnant to be classed as Jews, there is a history to it being sworn enemies of Judah even in ancient times. Pakhtoon have keep their bloodline from Jacob intact, we all know Pakthoon culture, while Jews unfortunately have lost their Bani Israel gene. Infact most Jews today are from Khazar lineage. And that is where the confusion arise about the gene and "scientific" proof of Pakhtoons being bani Isreal as people are compare them to "Khazar" gene which is not Bani Israel to being with. One more thing, the Pakhtoon revered this person called Qais Abdur Rasheed. According to them, he was the first among them to accept Islam and did bait on Prophet (PBUH) hands. He is the one who later turned all of them to Islam. And guess what, Qais was the 35th descendant of Talut (mentioned in Quran in reference to David and Goliath) also known in western world as King Saul.

For me the most astonishing thing is, that the ancient Hebrew, according to the research done by Aristotle, were a tribe of Indus, who were displaced by the "Noah Deluge". Quran also mentioned that ancestors of Bani Isreal were with Noah. Which resolved the puzzle about those ancient Indus cities/settlements buried ten feet under sand all over Pakistan and surrounding areas. So yeah, we Pakistanis are basically the original nation of Noah. And as for Pakhtoons, they just came back to the lands from where their ancient ancestors took the Journey towards holy lands.

Oh man... That research and conclusion.. Holy shit

 

[Kabira]

Having gone through a lot of literature I believe each subcaste of gujjars is actually a different race and the commonality in Gujjars is an empire mid-7th century CE–1036 CE Gurjara Partihara stretching from south India to Georgia and a common language Gojri. Whoever fought this empire and lost but fought valiantly was assimilated as A sub clan. So the Chechi, kassana, kalas and thikari etc are indeed different races of almost equal standing united under the empire. Mongol, hapthalites, white huns, even Syncithians etc. What makes Gujjars distinct from other clans is that it has its own distinct language.

Gurjara Partihara are different from gujjars of Pakistan in punjab and northen areas. Gurjara in gujarat was ethnic group which included brahmins, rajputs etc while Pakistani gujjars were semi-nomadic cattle herders of punjab and northern areas. Only similarity in name confuses people.

I have done lot of research on this. People get confused and cant differentiate between Bani Israel and Jews. Jews are followers of a religion, its not a race, however Bani Israel is the race. Just like Arab is a race and you can have a Muslim or Christian within Arabs. From Yaqoob (AS) (Jacob) came 12 sons. We all know Yusuf (AS) (Joseph) and his brothers story. 12 sons = 12 tribes. And thats where the Bani Israel came from. Jews as we see today, and this is the very important point, are only from two tribes of Bani Israel . The rest, the ten tribes were NOT Jewish or got anything to do with the Jews. Pakhtoons are the Bani Israel as mentioned in Quran. They are the ones who comprised of the ten tribes and they are ones who carved the northern kingdom Israel and called themselves Isrealites while the southern kingdom, the Kingdom of Judah comprised of the rest of the tribes, and here in Judah, the Jews came from. The two were sworn enemies and fought for nearly a century until both were destroyed by outside forces and taken captive. In the case of Pakhtoon (the Israelities) by Assyrians who later moved them to Indus plains. and the Jews by the Babylonians. So when Pakhtoon find it repugnant to be classed as Jews, there is a history to it being sworn enemies of Judah even in ancient times. Pakhtoon have keep their bloodline from Jacob intact, we all know Pakthoon culture, while Jews unfortunately have lost their Bani Israel gene. Infact most Jews today are from Khazar lineage. And that is where the confusion arise about the gene and "scientific" proof of Pakhtoons being bani Isreal as people are compare them to "Khazar" gene which is not Bani Israel to being with. One more thing, the Pakhtoon revered this person called Qais Abdur Rasheed. According to them, he was the first among them to accept Islam and did bait on Prophet (PBUH) hands. He is the one who later turned all of them to Islam. And guess what, Qais was the 35th descendant of Talut (mentioned in Quran in reference to David and Goliath) also known in western world as King Saul.

For me the most astonishing thing is, that the ancient Hebrew, according to the research done by Aristotle, were a tribe of Indus, who were displaced by the "Noah Deluge". Quran also mentioned that ancestors of Bani Isreal were with Noah. Which resolved the puzzle about those ancient Indus cities/settlements buried ten feet under sand all over Pakistan and surrounding areas. So yeah, we Pakistanis are basically the original nation of Noah. And as for Pakhtoons, they just came back to the lands from where their ancient ancestors took the Journey towards holy lands.

Alhamdulillah, nice research brother.

 

[redgriffin]

On a lighter note "Origin of the Gujjar: 1st time a farmer stepped into buffalo dung"

 

[sady]

Gurjara Partihara are different from gujjars of Pakistan in punjab and northen areas. Gurjara in gujarat was ethnic group which included brahmins, rajputs etc while Pakistani gujjars were semi-nomadic cattle herders of punjab and northern areas. Only similarity in name confuses people.



Alhamdulillah, nice research brother.

No the semi nomadic Gujjars are type of gujjars called as van gujjars. The gujjars in punjab, Indian punjab and rajesthan India are from same stock with a distinct culture and language. Not all Partihara came from same ethnicity of Gujjars but there were few which were Gujjars. There is a lot of literature on this. After the wsr of 1857 Britih denigrated Gujjars in order to punish them for their active involvement. The books of history written by such authors tried to potray Gujar as thievely lazy and criminal caste.


Gurjara-Pratihara dynasty, either of two dynasties of medieval Hindu India. The line of Ujjain and later at Kannauj during the 8th to 11th centuries. Other Gurjara lines existed, but they did not take the surname Pratihara.The origin of the Gurjaras is uncertain. A view once widely held was that they entered India in the wake of the Hephthalites (White Huns or Hunas), who had invaded India in the 5th century and were connected with the Khazars. Now, however, most historians believe the Gurjaras had an indigenous origin. The name Gurjara does not appear before the end of the 6th century.Encyclopaedia Britannica

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Oh man... That research and conclusion.. Holy shit

Why don't you put your point across and we could have a debate?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Gurjara Partihara are different from gujjars of Pakistan in punjab and northen areas. Gurjara in gujarat was ethnic group which included brahmins, rajputs etc while Pakistani gujjars were semi-nomadic cattle herders of punjab and northern areas. Only similarity in name confuses people.



Alhamdulillah, nice research brother.

Thanks Bro. Tried to keep it as short as I can. One thing I forgot to mention. There is something called lost years of Jesus. Those years are his early youth I believe from 18 to 30 where there is no recorded accounts of his life. But all agree he migrated "east" from holy lands. Here is the interesting bit. At the same period, there are accounts of Jesus present in our region. As Jesus was send only to Bani Isreal, for him to be in this region far from holy lands, is a strong pointer to presence of Bani Isreal.