Are atheists/seculars loyal to Islamic Republic of Pakistan ?

[Old School]

This question doesn't need much explanations. PAKISTAN has been founded as a Muslim homeland based on the two nation throry. Millions of Muslims sacrificed their lives for the foundation of this Muslim homeland. We are also by constitution, an Islamic Republic which also provides guaranteed protections to all non Muslim citizens of other faiths. There is a condition though. All citizens must accept Pakistan as an Islamic Republic in order to be protected by the constitution.
How about people who do not accept Pakistan as an Islamic Republic and believe in atheist/secular ideologies? Are they really loyal to our founding principles and sovereignty ? Are they still entitled to remain the citizen of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan ? Don't they pose serious national security threats to our country ?
We must answer these existantial questions. There is no economy without clearly defined sovereignty. People who propose alternative ideologies such as secular/atheist and ethnic nationalism, they are clear and present danger to the national security of Pakistan. They will not hesitate to collaborate with foreign powers to undermine the national security. Government security apparatus must deal with these dangerous people accordingly.

 

[Path-Finder]

NO, it's not a difficult question. plus I already got called an extremist by one forum pinky.

 

[313ghazi]

Of course they are. Pakistan became an Islamic Republic in 1973. Those alive before then were still Pakistani. Faith is a matter for individuals. The ones who have damaged this country the most declared themselves Amir ul momineen.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

No.All categories below are not loyal to Pakistan -

• athiest
• secular
• Sikh
• Christian
• Ahmedi
• Shia
• Hindoo

On other hand Islamic groups like TTP, TLP, Lashkar e Jhangvi, ISIS etc are stalwart nationalits and loyal to Pakistan state.

 

[Old School]

The ones who have damaged this country the most declared themselves Amir ul momineen.

I did not know that Ayub/Yahya/ZA Bhutto/Nawaz/Zardari/Musharraf called themselves Amir ! This is something new.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

This question doesn't need much explanations. PAKISTAN has been founded as a Muslim homeland based on the two nation throry. Millions of Muslims sacrificed their lives for the foundation of this Muslim homeland. We are also by constitution, an Islamic Republic which also provides guaranteed protections to all non Muslim citizens of other faiths. There is a condition though. All citizens must accept Pakistan as an Islamic Republic in order to be protected by the constitution.
How about people who do not accept Pakistan as an Islamic Republic and believe in atheist/secular ideologies? Are they really loyal to our founding principles and sovereignty ? Are they still entitled to remain the citizen of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan ? Don't they pose serious national security threats to our country ?
We must answer these existantial questions. There is no economy without clearly defined sovereignty. People who propose alternative ideologies such as secular/atheist and ethnic nationalism, they are clear and present danger to the national security of Pakistan. They will not hesitate to collaborate with foreign powers to undermine the national security. Government security apparatus must deal with these dangerous people accordingly.

definitely NOT

only the Pious practicing MUSLIMS of correct faith are the ones and true sons of soil.
they are the only ones loyal to Pakistan
their Muslim faith and its expression from lal Masjid to Bajour, from Karachi to APS is a proof that they are the true loyal Pakistanis
rest are all kafirs and deserve to die;

 

[doorstar]

Millions of Muslims sacrificed their lives for the foundation of this Muslim homeland.

there was me believing that those million or so were slaughtered by the sikhs while travelling to Pakistan once it already had been created

definitely NOT
rest are all kafirs and deserve to die;

lucky thing I escaped then!

 

[Indus Pakistan]

definitely NOT

only the Pious practicing MUSLIMS of correct faith are the ones and true sons of soil.
they are the only ones loyal to Pakistan
their Muslim faith and its expression from lal Masjid to Bajour, from Karachi to APS is a proof that they are the true loyal Pakistanis
rest are all kafirs and deserve to die;

lol

there was me believing that those million or so were slaughtered by the sikhs while travelling to Pakistan once it already had been created

No. It got created after they arrived.

 

[doorstar]

lol

No. It got created after they arrived.

one learns something new on PDF every day, an amazing place this!

 

[Syed1.]

I'm not an atheist God forbid, but what does ones religion or belief have to do with their loyalty to the state. Tomorrow you will start questioning Hindus, Sikhs, Christians etc. Haath baand ke namaz parhtay hain ya haath chor ke? Where does it stop?

 

[doorstar]

who was this here man who said:
“You are free; you are free to go to your temples. You are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the state.”

 

[Indus Pakistan]

one learns something new on PDF every day, an amazing place this!

Honestly, I have never understood this. FACT: Pakistan came into existence because four provinces of the Raj elected to federate making 'Pakistan' from Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan. It was the people of these provinces that made Pakistan.

Without these five provinces there could be no Pakistan. You can't build castles in air let alone countries in hot air. In 1947 these provinces joined the federation and Pakistan came into existence. Then. Yes then after Pakistan came into existence @Areesh hightailed it to a already existing Pakistan. Yet the 95% of Pakistan that made the country giving a place for the 5% from Gangadesh to get refuge today have to bow to the 5% hightailers.

Wtf???

 

[Valar.]

I was born in an Islamic family and was raised by Islamic minded parents.
Performed Haj at the age of 4 (lol)
Practised Islam till the age of 15 however I could.
And then stopped.
Now, the question is, am I loyal to my parents? Do I still love them?
If you get the answer of that, you'll get the answer about patriotism too, hopefully.

 

[Areesh]

Honestly, I have never understood this. FACT: Pakistan came into existence because four provinces of the Raj elected to federate making 'Pakistan' from Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, Balochistan. It was the people of these provinces that made Pakistan.

Without these five provinces there could be no Pakistan. You can't build castles in air let alone countries in hot air. In 1947 these provinces joined the federation and Pakistan came into existence. Then. Yes then after Pakistan came into existence @Areesh hightailed it to a already existing Pakistan. Yet the 95% of Pakistan that made the country giving a place for the 5% from Gangadesh to get refuge today have to bow to the 5% hightailers.

Wtf???

Stop whining man

Go worship Manzoor Gashteen or something

 

[Crusher]

The only people who are and have been truly loyal to Pakistan are the sons of the soil of various regions/provinces that define the territory of modern Pakistan. We the sons of the soil of Pakistan are Pakistani by default, we are NOT in this land due to any "accident", our parents, grandparents and great grandparents etc. were living on the same land before 1947 what later became as "Pakistan".