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Another Mumbai will be a setback for Indo-Pak ties: Singh ON BOARD PM'S AIRCRAFT: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Saturday defended his outreach to Pakistan, saying that that the army there also favoured peace process, but declared that another Mumbai-type attack will end the peace process and that this is fully understood by his Pakistani counterpart Yousuf Raza Gilani, Indian media reported.

Singh, who was talking to mediapersons on his way back to India from the Saarc summit in Maldives, said that he got the impression that "after a very long time", the Pakistan armed forces were also on board in the Indo-Pak dialogue process.

Asked about his ringing endorsement of Gilani as a "man of peace," the PM said he was not placing "blind faith in a person howsoever well meaning...With Pakistan it is trust but verify." He repeated the phrase twice. In his opening remarks, he stressed that his pitch for peace was based on the condition that Pakistan would work to stop terror attacks on India. "Both (he and Gilani) realized that another Mumbai will be a setback...This is fully understood by PM Gilani." Later, he elaborated saying that strong evidence of Pakistan's involvement in an act of terror will be a "strong negative".

Elaborating on actions that can indicate Pakistan's sincerity in delivering on peace commitments, Singh said "It will certainly help if Pakistan realizes that terror as an instrument of state policy has not solved any country's problems." In this context, Indian public opinion feels that the peace process cannot progress unless the 26/11 guilty are punished.

The PM did explain why, despite the stern caveats he inserted into the post-script of his meeting with Gilani in Maldives where both felt a new chapter in bilateral relations beckon, he found the Pakistani leader a likely partner in peace. He said that in his four-five meetings with Gilani, he had found him ready to acknowledge the problem of terrorism. Pakistan's policy of supporting terror has "given rise to Pakistani terrorism," Singh said. "In (Gilani) we have a leader willing to work for a peaceful resolution of all disputes", he added.

The PM did provide more clues to his Pakistan policy, referring to the need to strengthen the "democratic government" in that country that seems interested in finding peaceful resolutions to animosity although Singh is obviously aware of Islamabad's track record of duplicity on terror.

The PM made it clear that he is likely to accept Gilani's invitation to visit Pakistan only if he is convinced that there is "solid business" to transact. "If I feel that such a situation has been reached, I will accept the invitation."

With the Opposition criticizing Singh for investing in Gilani's leadership at a time when Islamabad was still to progress on acting against anti-India terror groups like Lashkar-e-Toiba and terrorist launch pads in Pakistan occupied Kashmir, the conditions that the PM spelt out came across as robust counter-measures.

Singh saw improvements in trade and economic relations as a step forward with Pakistan's recent decision to offer most favoured nation (MFN) status to India as opening new opportunities. Confidence building measures across the line of control (LoC) can make the lives of people on both sides easier.

The PM's Pakistan outreach saw him defending the initiative against doubts whether Gilani was indeed capable of delivering on his professed opposition to terrorism. Singh noted that the likelihood of a Pakistani judicial commission on 26/11 travelling to India could mark a forward movement and translate into more concrete actions.

Bolstering Gilani is seen as a gambit to help a leader who has argued that he recognizes that terrorism is not discriminating and Pakistan society is also facing a serious threat. Singh has tried to work on this concern with the Pakistan leadership, pointing out that the country's political and social institutions are under siege.

The assessment at the top levels of the Indian government is that the Pakistan establishment - both civilian and military - is not terribly sure of the path ahead with changes in the regional environment where disturbed relations on both eastern and western borders do seem good strategy.
 
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Why would Pak deliberately do another Mumbai unless off-course the Indian extremist elements have already got their blueprint to derail the peace process..which seems likely with appointment of Modi!

Wikileaks, in a disclosed United States diplomatic cable revealed that ISI had secretly passed on intelligence data to Mossad. ISI had intercepted information that Israeli civilians may be targeted in a terrorist attack in India during September and November 2008 (following the 26th November Mumbai Terror Attacks that amongst its targets included a Jewish centre - the Nariman House) It was reported that Pakistan's Lieutenant-General Ahmad Shuja Pasha was in direct contact with Israel's Mossad.

JPost said:
Pakistan shared intelligence information with Israel regarding possible terrorist attacks against Jewish and Israeli sites in India, according to a leaked diplomatic cable published on Wednesday as part of the ongoing Wikileaks saga.

According to the document dated October 7, 2009, Ahmad Shuja Pasha, head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, told an American diplomat that he had conveyed intelligence on potential terror attacks in India to Israel.

Source: WikiLeaks: Pakistan passed terror intel to Isr... JPost - Defense
 
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Why would Pak deliberately do another Mumbai unless off-course the Indian extremist elements have already got their blueprint to derail the peace process..which seems likely with appointment of Modi!

Modi is more like a right wing person,I get it.But I really dont think he that kind of guy who will do terrorist kind of activities.One thing for sure about Modi is he is an out and out supporter of development of India.Man.. what he has done to the state of Gujarat is really commendable.Be rest assured that he will never do any such thing that is detrimental to national integrity and development.I have got my faith on this politician.
 
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First this loser Not-at-all-Singh comes forward talking praises and now he says this. Oh Enlightened! Why is this lunatic our PM? :hitwall:

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Modi is more like a right wing person,I get it.But I really dont think he that kind of guy who will do terrorist kind of activities.One thing for sure about Modi is he is an out and out supporter of development of India.Man.. what he has done to the state of Gujarat is really commendable.Be rest assured that he will never do any such thing that is detrimental to national integrity and development.I have got my faith on this politician.

Don't bother explaining; most Pakistanis target him because he's the only man capable of armoring India completely and a to deliver nightmares to the cross-border "non-state actors". That's why they, the secularist cowards in our country, the sell-out NDTV types, etc rant the same thing again and again against Modi.
 
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First this loser Not-at-all-Singh comes forward talking praises and now he says this. Oh Enlightened! Why is this lunatic our PM? :hitwall:

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Don't bother explaining; most Pakistanis target him because he's the only man capable of armoring India completely and a to deliver nightmares to the cross-border "non-state actors". That's why they, the secularist cowards in our country, the sell-out NDTV types, etc rant the same thing again and again against Modi.


actually somebozo appears to me like a person capable of rational thinking.He just gets really angry and irrational by the left and right Pakistan bashing that often happens here.
 
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actually somebozo appears to me like a person capable of rational thinking.He just gets really angry and irrational by the left and right Pakistan bashing that often happens here.

Well, no one bashes Pakistan. Those of fellow Indians who do post articles, post the truth that has even Pakistani news links and Chinese news links. But then some people even claim this to be a Zionist propaganda and dismiss it. That's when it gets nasty. Otherwise, no issues.
 
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Yeah it will be a setback for two years during which a mini forest will be destroyed for sending worthless dossiers and from the third year the Pakistani Pm (who ever in post) will become the man-of-peace.

Oh, Somebody please tell this man to shut up.
 
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Well, no one bashes Pakistan. Those of fellow Indians who do post articles, post the truth that has even Pakistani news links and Chinese news links. But then some people even claim this to be a Zionist propaganda and dismiss it. That's when it gets nasty. Otherwise, no issues.

LOL :rolleyes:
 
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Why would Pak deliberately do another Mumbai unless off-course the Indian extremist elements have already got their blueprint to derail the peace process..which seems likely with appointment of Modi!

Well why is the PA/ISI supporting the Afghan Taliban or why are the supporting LeT/JuD?

Because the establishment or influential people there think this is the way according to them Pakistan can be protected or their interests can be protected.

If Pakistan ends up having friendly relations with India, what is the use of having LeT/JuD and other such groups? Vested interests would do their best to derail the process like they did in Mumbai.

Hence, those Pakistanis who actually do want good relations with India like the majority of the awam in Pakistan have to be doubly cautious to not only prevent terrorists actions but also prosecute the perpetrators and give them justice.
 
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Well why is the PA/ISI supporting the Afghan Taliban or why are the supporting LeT/JuD?

Because the establishment or influential people there think this is the way according to them Pakistan can be protected or their interests can be protected.

If Pakistan ends up having friendly relations with India, what is the use of having LeT/JuD and other such groups? Vested interests would do their best to derail the process like they did in Mumbai.

Hence, those Pakistanis who actually do want good relations with India like the majority of the awam in Pakistan have to be doubly cautious to not only prevent terrorists actions but also prosecute the perpetrators and give them justice.

Those who want good relations with India,they are not the one in power in Pakistan.We will have to take a look on that.
 
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Why would Pak deliberately do another Mumbai unless off-course the Indian extremist elements have already got their blueprint to derail the peace process..which seems likely with appointment of Modi!





Source: WikiLeaks: Pakistan passed terror intel to Isr... JPost - Defense
Believe me :lol: If modi comes to power..Pakistan would p!ss in its pant and wouldn't dare to do a mumbai style attack again...and still if it does..you could well start hearing the death knell
 
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Believe me :lol: If modi comes to power..Pakistan would p!ss in its pant and wouldn't dare to do a mumbai style attack again...and still if it does..you could well start hearing the death knell
so sad dude i didnt expect this from you yar your kinds of guys are the main cause of hate b/w INDIAN and PAKISTAN:hitwall:
 
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India is getting ready to get back-stabbed again by paksitan.

When another mumbai style attack will occur, again nothing will happen and all our PAKFAs,FGFAs,AMCAs,MMRCA's,Arihant's,Apache's,Arjun's,TEJAS',Smearch's,AAD's,PAD's will rot in storage houses and will be used only in case of friendly exercises and not in case of war.

We have hardware but lack courage to use them.

I don't know why we don't learn from our past.

Again 100's will be killed.
 
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India is getting ready to get back-stabbed again by paksitan.

When another mumbai style attack will occur, again nothing will happen and all our PAKFAs,FGFAs,AMCAs,MMRCA's,Arihant's,Apache's,Arjun's,TEJAS',Smearch's,AAD's,PAD's will rot in storage houses and will be used only in case of friendly exercises and not in case of war.

We have hardware but lack courage to use them.

I don't know why we don't learn from our past.

Again 100's will be killed.
Indian islamic extremist will do this attack again
 
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