Ultimately, the 4.5+ generation platforms aren't going anywhere, they'll be mainstays in China for a long time moving forward and, not least, they'll get the job done as far as the PAF is concerned (i.e. deploy ALCM and other SOWs).
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4.5+/++ fighters would be around 2050 but it would be a problem because by that time effective counter for 5th and 6th Gen would be available. For countries like Russia, China, USA and even India replacing their 4+ fighters would not be an easy task with 5th or 6th gen hence they would continue to use these in presence of 5th, 6th or 7th gen.
PAF might not be in a position because of the limited number of aircraft in fleet. The problem with ALCM and other SOWs needs to be solved for the JF-17. USA might not allow any modifications on F-16s. Procuring J-10C or SU-35 in limited numbers some how does not seem the right choice.
Ideally, Project Azm would also be a proper PLAAF project (in alignment with the PLAAF's requirements), thus giving it scale and making it relatively more affordable. If by chance the PLAAF is looking to expedite a new 5th gen fighter, then we could see Azm relatively soon (e.g. 2030).
In a realistic world yes, but do not think the Chinese would be interested in another 5th Gen Air-superiority or multirole aircraft. PLAAF might be interested in a dedicated long range bomber.
Recently did read something about 5th generation naval requirement of VTOL for Chinese and Russian Navies. This project could kick start Azm.
If it is single engine and with VTOL.
This is in light that Russia needs aircraft carriers as its only aircraft carrier need upgrades. Russia has not built any big ships since the fall of USSR. There could be a potential collaboration with China after the French refusal and sanction.
The real X-factor in all of this is the FC-31. If the FC-31 can be bought off-the-shelf for a reasonable price, then it too could be a good interim fighter (ahead of Project Azm). But it's feasibility depends on whether China is willing to write down the costs (i.e. not tie the R&D to the price).
In my earlier post FC-31 was purposely left due to it heading towards a failure. Reasons are PLAAF does not want it due to its limited range. PLAAN does not want to invest in its Naval variant. Countries that might have considered it were mostly those who would have come under sanctions from the west. These countries have either invested in their own 5th Gen like Gulf States and Far East.
South Korea partnering with Indonisia, UAE with Russia, Turkey is in talks with Russia and BAE.
The only advantage the J-31 has it can be seen as prototype.
The X-Factor in FC-31 could be if Iran is guaranteed delivery. Something that is highly unlikely at present but could change due to Trump's immaturity.
Against F-35, any fighter loaded with VLRAAM and backed by advanced AEWACS such as Russian A-100 will be effective. This needs to be combined with ground based radars and SAMs such as S-400+ backed by multi-layered defence.
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It is true F-35's can be taken out, but this does not solve the over all requirements of PAF.
This only solves the problem of Arial Deniability (defensive role). What about counter attack? ALCM and SOM are limited options they would not provide air cover to PA beyond enemy lines.
The PAK-FA is a different beast altogether. In my opinion, PAF would do good to take advantage of India backing out, and solidify partnership with Russia. In the future, as stealth fails due to advanced sensors, super-maneuverability combined with careful LO features will make a very deadly combination.
It is a good suggestion. Lets see what happens and how much can Russia offer.
