America new generation multirole F-35 vs Russia new generation multirole Su-35. Rate them in poll

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Su-35. First flight 2008. Replace Su-27. Digital quadruplex FBW. Nose mounted thermal imaging EOTS. ESA radar. MAWS. First Russia plane that has full glass cockpit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-35

F-35. First flight 2006. Replace F-16. No HUD, only HMD. Nose mounted thermal imaging EOTS. ESA radar. MAWS. Canopy opens in the front. Easy entry and exit for pilot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

@pakistanipower @gambit @vostok

 

[Ultima Thule]

Su-35. First flight 2008. Replace Su-27. Digital quadruplex FBW. Nose mounted thermal imaging EOTS. MAWS. First Russia plane that has full glass cockpit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-35

F-35. First flight 2006. Replace F-16. No HUD, only HMD. Nose mounted thermal imaging EOTS. MAWS. Canopy opens in the front. Easy entry and exit for pilot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

you're really stupid, Su-35 infrared sensors Called IRST not ETOS and IRST is only for detecting air targets an not have a capability to detect/discriminate ground targets and F-35 ETOS is IRST+electro-optical senor combined which is useful for both purpose air to air + ground attack, as for HUD/HMD problem, HMD is more advance than HUD,light weight than HUD, HUD's field of view is limited, and give me proof Su-35's HUD has field of view of 70 degree, you stupid @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

you're really stupid, Su-35 infrared sensors Called IRST not ETOS and IRST is only for detecting air targets an not have a capability to detect/discriminate ground targets and F-35 ETOS is IRST+electro-optical senor combined which is useful for both purpose air to air + ground attack, as for HUD/HMD problem, HMD is more advance than HUD,light weight than HUD, HUD's field of view is limited, and give me proof Su-35's HUD has field of view of 70 degree, you stupid @undertakerwwefan

Su-35 nose mounted EOTS does thermal imaging. Su-27's EOTS could not do thermal imaging. Su-35's EOTS could. Actually, all the new generation of ETOS like the ones in Rafale, Typhoon, Su-35 can do thermal imaging.

Su-35 thermal imaging of B-52 in Syria.

Typhoon's Pirate EOTS

 

[Ultima Thule]

Su-35 nose mounted EOTS does thermal imaging. Su-27's EOTS could not do thermal imaging. Su-35's EOTS could. Actually, all the new generation of ETOS like the ones in Rafale, Typhoon, Su-35 can do thermal imaging.

Su-35 thermal imaging of B-52 in Syria.

Typhoon's Pirate EOTS

you pathetic troller go read the difference between IRST and ETOS, and Su-35/EF-200 have not ETOS but simple IRST do detect air target only, you RETARD HEAD @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

you pathetic troller go read the difference between IRST and ETOS, and Su-35/EF-200 have not ETOS but simple IRST do detect air target only, you RETARD HEAD @undertakerwwefan

IRST is a part of EOTS. EOTS includes IRST + laser rangefinder / designator + CPU and the latest ones have FLIR.

https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252Facecombat%252Fcomments%252F9ikec5%252F

 

[Ultima Thule]

IRST is a part of EOTS. EOTS includes IRST + laser rangefinder / designator + CPU.

give me source that Su-35 have IRST + laser rangefinder/designator or else shut the fcuk up, you're so dumb @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

give me source that Su-35 have IRST + laser rangefinder/designator or else shut the fcuk up, you're so dumb @undertakerwwefan

Description: The OLS-35 is an advanced infrared search and track (IRST) fire control system designed for the 4+ generation Su-35 fighter aircraft replacing the OEPS-27 sight system. OLS-35 comprises a heat-seeker, a laser rangefinder/designator and a TV camera along with new algorithms and advanced software to outperform its predecessor installed on the Su-27/Su-30 aircraft family. The Su-35 IRST is superior to the OEPS-27 in terms of range, precision and reliability.

The OLS-35 provides a coverage of +/-90 in azimuth and +60/-15 in elevation with a target acquisition range for non-afterburning aerial targets of 50 km facing up to target's front hemisphere and 90 km facing up to rear hemisphere. The laser rangefinder features a five-meter Circular Error Probable (CEP) and ranges up to 20 km for aerial targets and 30 km for targets on the ground.

source: http://www.deagel.com/Sensor-Systems/OLS-35_a001926001.aspx

 

[Ultima Thule]

Description: The OLS-35 is an advanced infrared search and track (IRST) fire control system designed for the 4+ generation Su-35 fighter aircraft replacing the OEPS-27 sight system. OLS-35 comprises a heat-seeker, a laser rangefinder/designator and a TV camera along with new algorithms and advanced software to outperform its predecessor installed on the Su-27/Su-30 aircraft family. The Su-35 IRST is superior to the OEPS-27 in terms of range, precision and reliability.

The OLS-35 provides a coverage of +/-90 in azimuth and +60/-15 in elevation with a target acquisition range for non-afterburning aerial targets of 50 km facing up to target's front hemisphere and 90 km facing up to rear hemisphere. The laser rangefinder features a five-meter Circular Error Probable (CEP) and ranges up to 20 km for aerial targets and 30 km for targets on the ground.

source: http://www.deagel.com/Sensor-Systems/OLS-35_a001926001.aspx

Thanks, but still its main function has to intercept air targets, with a secondary ground attack capabilities an not consider ETOS equivalent of F-35 @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Thanks, but still its main function has to intercept air targets, with a secondary ground attack capabilities an not consider ETOS equivalent of F-35 @undertakerwwefan

Modern nose mounted EOTS can do ground attack. Of course, F-35's EOTS works better for ground attack because it's mounted on the bottom instead of on the top, at a cost of more radar signature to the plane's front.

at the 1:04 mark

 

[Ultima Thule]

Modern nose mounted EOTS can do ground attack. Of course, F-35's EOTS works better for ground attack because it's mounted on the bottom instead of on the top, at a cost of more radar signature to the plane's front.

at the 1:04 mark

pathetic logic you have you retard @undertakerwwefan IRST+laser range finder/designator is not enough for high precision and work lower atmosphere like in Attack helis/CAS/Strike jets like Su-25/A-10 from higher altitude laser deteriorate and spread and not achieve required precision, Its just a IRST with secondary/degraded ground attack capabilities, you need FLIR to achieve for required precision on SU-35 @undertakerwwefan

 

[GumNaam]

pathetic logic you have you retard @undertakerwwefan IRST+laser range finder/designator is not enough for high precision and work lower atmosphere like in Attack helis/CAS/Strike jets like Su-25/A-10 from higher altitude laser deteriorate and spread and not achieve required precision, Its just a IRST with secondary/degraded ground attack capabilities, you need FLIR to achieve for required precision on SU-35 @undertakerwwefan

abay yar tu gaaliyan diyay baghayr baat nahi kar sakta kia?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

pathetic logic you have you retard @undertakerwwefan IRST+laser range finder/designator is not enough for high precision and work lower atmosphere like in Attack helis/CAS/Strike jets like Su-25/A-10 from higher altitude laser deteriorate and spread and not achieve required precision, Its just a IRST with secondary/degraded ground attack capabilities, you need FLIR to achieve for required precision on SU-35 @undertakerwwefan

It's imaging infrared. Latest heat seeking missiles have an IRST in the front that can do heat seeking as well as thermal imaging. Older heat seeking missiles IRST in the front can't do thermal imaging. Latest IRST on planes likewise can do thermal imaging whereas older IRST like the ones in Su-27 and MiG-29 can't do thermal imaging.

 

[Ultima Thule]

It's imaging infrared. Latest heat seeking missiles have an IRST in the front that can do heat seeking as well as thermal imaging. Older heat seeking missiles IRST in the front can't do thermal imaging. Latest IRST on planes likewise can do thermal imaging whereas older IRST like the ones in Su-27 and MiG-29 can't do thermal imaging.

, what are you talking about HEAT SEEKING MISSILE HAVE AN IRST AS A SEEKER @undertakerwwefan IRST is on the fighter jet you stupid, and thermal imaging and IR imaging is almost same thing @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Su-35 radar, one of the most powerful in the world. Can detect fighter plane at nearly 400 km.

, what are you talking about HEAT SEEKING MISSILE HAVE AN IRST AS A SEEKER @undertakerwwefan IRST is on the fighter jet you stupid, and thermal imaging and IR imaging is almost same thing @undertakerwwefan

All the newest IRST on missiles and planes have thermal imaging.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T

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Please. In English.