Alvi blames social media for gulf between Imran, ex-COAS Bajwa

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President Dr Arif Alvi has said that social media was one of the reasons for differences between former prime minister Imran Khan and ex-army chief General (retired) Qamar Javed Bajwa.

In an interview with BBC Urdu, the president said that misunderstandings were created by giving “undue importance to social media” and said that the country’s “decision-making powers” were unable to “handle” social media.

Alvi, who also offered to mediate between Imran and the current coalition government in the interview, said that problems arise when social media is given “too much importance”.

“YouTube was shut down in Pakistan for two years. The reason for this was that decision-makers were unable to handle it.”

He said that those “making decisions in the country” were unable to handle social media the correct way. “In my opinion, they should handle it in a better way.”

When asked about ties between Imran and the former army chief, he said that “all was available in the press” and he didn’t have any specific information in this regard.

“I think there were some misunderstandings, which are now coming out in public. I tried to end the misunderstandings […] As the president of Pakistan, it is my constitutional responsibility to keep the federation together.”

Alvi also advised the military establishment and the country’s political parties that “cooperation is better than disagreements”.

“This is important for Pakistan. This is the advice I give to everyone in public and in private.”

When the interviewer asked the president whether differences between Imran and the ex-army chief developed over the appointment of the country’s spymaster, the president said he would not talk about a specific person or incident.

However, without naming anyone, the president said that “all parties were demonstrating inflexibility” and his advice was not sought.

He further said that he advised those being inflexible to let bygones be bygones, adding that “it “would have been better” if his advice was heeded.

“If you look at the surveys from that time, the entire country was saying that talks should take place. I still don’t understand who was more reluctant. When I say let bygones be bygones, people are unable to do it.”

The BBC Urdu report noted that President Alvi did not state if he was talking about the PTI or the former army chief, but said that “everyone was taking revenge in the political arena”.

The president was also asked whether there was any truth to reports claiming that the PTI had tried to convince Bajwa to extend his tenure during the meetings he facilitated.

The president responded by saying that he was unaware of the offers that were made.

“But I said that misunderstandings should be resolved by sitting together. Be it any political party, the opposition or the establishment, I am ready to play the role of a mediator.”

Alvi blames social media for gulf between Imran, ex-COAS Bajwa

In interview with BBC Urdu, he says misunderstandings were created by giving “undue importance to social media”.

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[blain2]

The ONLY man that I have respect for and who remains a class act is the President sahib. He has consistently taken the middle of the road, calling for reconciliation and talks. Good man!

 

[VCheng]

The ONLY man that I have respect for and who remains a class act is the President sahib. He has consistently taken the middle of the road, calling for reconciliation and talks. Good man!

So it is more the media at fault for exaggerating the differences, and not as much IK for choosing to not understand the ground realities only after they did not suit him anymore?

 

[That Guy]

The funny thing is, despite the constant fighting and current political instability, the current government is probably the most politically diverse Pakistan has ever had, and by total accident as well.

President is PTI.

PM is PMLN

Cabinet is a mix of PPP, MQM and PMLN.

So all major parties are represented.

 

[blain2]

So it is more the media at fault for exaggerating the differences, and not as much IK for choosing to not understand the ground realities only after they did not suit him anymore?

It's all of the above and establishment's miscalculations, PDM's missteps etc. etc. "Who is not to blame for this mess" would be a better question to ask.

The funny thing is, despite the constant fighting and current political instability, the current government is probably the most politically diverse Pakistan has ever had, and by total accident as well.

President is PTI.

PM is PMLN

Cabinet is a mix of PPP, MQM and PMLN.

So all major parties are represented.

And as maligned as this government is, it will get Pakistan through the current mess if the social media army takes a break from critiquing everything under the sun. Limping, crawling, this too will pass.

 

[VCheng]

It's all of the above and establishment's miscalculations, PDM's missteps etc. etc. "Who is not to blame for this mess" would be a better question to ask.

I really would not go that far, and instead contend that everything will work out just fine according to the requirements of the system in place. Messy it is for sure, but nothing out of the ordinary. After all, Pakistan is Exhibit A for demonstrating S.N.A.F.U. for much of its history, by design.

 

[That Guy]

It's all of the above and establishment's miscalculations, PDM's missteps etc. etc. "Who is not to blame for this mess" would be a better question to ask.

And as maligned as this government is, it will get Pakistan through the current mess if the social media army takes a break from critiquing everything under the sun. Limping, crawling, this too will pass.

This government deserves to be critiqued to death.

The current mess was created by this government, they don't get to complain about getting yelled at by internet trolls when they're directly responsible for the current situation.

If getting criticized on the internet is making their jobs harder, then they don't deserve to be in government.

 

[blain2]

I really would not go that far, and instead contend that everything will work out just fine according to the requirements of the system in place. Messy it is for sure, but nothing out of the ordinary. After all, Pakistan is Exhibit A for demonstrating S.N.A.F.U. for much of its history, by design.

Good point. My exact sentiment. It will limp along as it has been (which is par for the course for us). Despite all this talk of "default", world crashing down on Pakistan, this, that and the other, we will manage even with Darnomics (as useless as he is).

 

[blain2]

This government deserves to be critiqued to death.

The current mess was created by this government, they don't get to complain about getting yelled at by internet trolls when they're directly responsible for the current situation.

If getting criticized on the internet is making their jobs harder, then they don't deserve to be in government.

Fair point, but an issue with the blind critique is that people criticize the very same things that were going on in PTI's tenure just for the sake of partisanship. In many cases, what the incumbents are doing for Pakistan is just the same as PTI.

 

[VCheng]

Fair point, but an issue with the blind critique is that people criticize the very same things that were going on in PTI's tenure just for the sake of partisanship. In many cases, what the incumbents are doing for Pakistan is just the same as PTI.

I will also go as far as to add this prediction: If and when PTI wins the next elections, they, as incumbents, will be doing the same things again, since there is no indication of anything being planned to be done any differently.

 

[PakFactor]

Good point. My exact sentiment. It will limp along as it has been (which is par for the course for us). Despite all this talk of "default", world crashing down on Pakistan, this, that and the other, we will manage even with Darnomics (as useless as he is).

So you would rather have polio and be crippled. Rather than develop a vaccine to make sure it doesn't strike again?

I said it once before and will repeat it, the Pakistani moto: doing the same thing with the same people and getting the same results.

The main grievance is you know who PDM is by character, and what they've done to this country that you'd choose to bring them back. On top, PDM shitshow just proved to every one man, women, child and sperm that PDM as a whole from beginning to end do not know anything in running the economy. There PhD Mifith from a US Ivy League was a failure and you except someone what a BA in Accounting to be any better?

From day one, they’ve been running around like a bunch of class clowns begging for funds, and none bats an eye.

Eventually, when you keep doing the same thing begging after the same mistake, others will get turned off and tune you out.

 

[blain2]

I will also go as far as to add this prediction: If and when PTI wins the next elections, they, as incumbents, will be doing the same things again, since there is no indication of anything being planned to be done any differently.

Thus the immature double-standards. Same deal, different names. That is all there is to it.

 

[PakFactor]

I will also go as far as to add this prediction: If and when PTI wins the next elections, they, as incumbents, will be doing the same things again, since there is no indication of anything being planned to be done any differently.

Of course, what could they do as the train was derailed? If PTI comes back the problems it’ll face will be much bigger than what was left behind.

 

[VCheng]

Thus the immature double-standards. Same deal, different names. That is all there is to it.

But people get very upset when I say IK is just another temporarily useful idiot in a long line of manufactured puppets. And he won't be the last, either.

Of course, what could they do as the train was derailed? If PTI comes back the problems it’ll face will be much bigger than what was left behind.

So blaming the past, as before? It will never achieve what they keep promising to deliver, will it? So it all boils down to a personal choice of what liar to follow?

 

[SecularNationalist]

The ONLY man that I have respect for and who remains a class act is the President sahib. He has consistently taken the middle of the road, calling for reconciliation and talks. Good man!

No actually he can't face the ISI torture room in this age. No one is strong like azam swati.