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ALERT 🚨 India conducts night trial of Prithvi II missile from Integrated Test Range off Odisha coast

Missile Engineers usually choose a test vehicle for experimenting with newer technologies based upon it sharing some common features in the arsenal. Biggest marker is the diameter of the stages.

For us, our test vehicle in recent times for MaRV, TVC, and exo-atmospheric maneuverability, has been long retired Shahab-3.
@Skull and Bones pointed to this too. It is highly possible, but on the other hand the OP bragged about it's accuracy and also explains the missile itself as a trustworthy platform. The solid fuel version is still being used by Indian Navy according to internet sources. So the missile is still active in the Indian missile arsenal.
 
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Trust me, @Joe Shearer is an honorable person. I know him off the forum too. :)Though he has promised that one of these days he will tell me his objections to Communism. :D
You are one of the bests of Indians here and if im not wrong you were born to Islam as your mother religion. To me, It is a huge loss to see that you have a tilt towards communism. Its true that there are good and bad aspects in every man made ideology and communism is no exception. Pick its good ideas, use them in your own favor and throw the rest into the trashcan. Our religion is the best and unmatched since its not man made.
 
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You are one of the bests of Indians here

Thanks, bhai. :)

and if im not wrong you were born to Islam as your mother religion. To me, It is a huge loss to see that you have a tilt towards communism. Its true that there are good and bad aspects in every man made ideology and communism is no exception. Pick its good ideas, use them in your own favor and throw the rest into the trashcan. Our religion is the best and unmatched since its not man made.

Yes Islam is my birth religion and it is really a compliment to me that you think you have lost someone like me to another ideology, thank you. :) But Islam is really the closest to modern Communism because what is Islam if not a progressive, justice-seeking and harmony-seeking philosophy and whose idea of divinity is simple and rational to a great extent ? By being a Communist I am being very close to true Islam. I will quote a section from a thread of mine from 2016 whose OP is by Pakistani journalist Nadeem Paracha and is about Communist and Socialist activism among Muslims since the early 1900s :
During the same period (1920s-30s), another (though lesser known) Islamic scholar in undivided India got smitten by the 1917 Russian revolution and Marxism.

Hafiz Rahman Sihwarwl saw Islam and Marxism sharing five elements in common: (1) prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes (2) organisation of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare (3) equality of opportunity for all human beings (4) priority of collective social interest over individual privilege and (5) prevention of the permanentising of class structure through social revolution.

The motivations for many of these themes he drew from the Qur’an, which he understood as seeking to create an economic order in which the rich pay excessive, though voluntary taxes (Zakat) to minimise differences in living standards.

In the areas that Sihwarwl saw Islam and communism diverge were Islam’s sanction of private ownership within certain limits, and in its refusal to recognise an absolutely classless basis of society.

He suggested that Islam, with its prohibition of the accumulation of wealth, is able to control the class structure through equality of opportunity.

Basically, both Sindhi and Sihwarwl had stumbled upon an Islamic concept of the social democratic welfare state.

Building upon the initial thoughts of Sindhi and Sihwarwl were perhaps South Asia’s two most ardent and articulate supporters and theoreticians of Islamic Socilaism: Ghulam Ahmed Parvez and Dr. Khalifa Abdul Hakim.

Parvez was a prominent ‘Quranist’, or an Islamic scholar who insisted that for the Muslims to make progress in the modern world, Islamic thought and laws should be entirely based on the modern interpretations of the Qu’ran and on the complete rejection of the hadith (sayings of the Prophet and his companions based on hearsay and compiled over a 100 years after the Prophet’s demise).

After studying traditional Muslim texts, as well as Sufism, Parvez claimed that almost all hadiths were fabrications by those who wanted Islam to seem like an intolerant faith and by ancient Muslim kings who used these hadiths to give divine legitimacy to their tyrannical rules.

Parvez also insisted that Muslims should spend more time studying the modern sciences instead of wasting their energies on fighting out ancient sectarian conflicts or ignoring the true egalitarian and enlightening spirit of the Qu’ran by indulging in multiple rituals handed down to them by ancient ulema, clerics and compilers of the hadith.

Understandably, Parvez was right away attacked by conservative Islamic scholars and political outfits.

But this didn’t stop famous Muslim philosopher and poet, Muhammad Iqbal, to befriend the young scholar and then introduce him to the future founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah.

Jinnah appointed Parvez to edit a magazine, Talu-e-Islam. It was set-up to propagate the creation of a separate Muslim country and to also answer the attacks that Jinnah’s All India Muslim League had begun to face from conservative Islamic parties and ulema who accused the League of being a pseudo-Muslim organisation and Jinnah for being too westernised and ‘lacking correct Islamic behavior.’

Apart from continuing to author books and commentaries on the Qu’ran, Parvez wrote a series of articles in Talu-e-Islam that propagated a more socialistic view of the holy book.

In a series of essays for the magazine he used verses from the Qu’ran, incidents from the faith’s history and insights from the writings of Muhammad Iqbal to claim:

The clergy and conservative ulema have hijacked Islam.

They are agents of the rich people and promoters of uncontrolled Capitalism.

Socialism best enforces Qur’anic dictums on property, justice and distribution of wealth.

Islam’s main mission was the eradication of all injustices and cruelties from society. It was a socio-economic movement, and the Prophet was a leader seeking to put an end to the capitalist exploitation of the Quraysh merchants and the corrupt bureaucracy of Byzantium and Persia.

According to the Qur’an, Muslims have three main responsibilities: seeing, hearing and sensing through the agency of the mind. Consequently, real knowledge is based on empirically verifiable observation, or through the role of science.

Poverty is the punishment of God and deserved by those who ignore science.

In Muslim/Islamic societies, science, as well as agrarian reform should play leading roles in developing an industrialised economy.

A socialist path is a correction of the medieval distortion of Islam through Shari’a.


Parvez joined the government after the creation of Pakistan in 1947, but after Jinnah’s death in 1948, he was sidelined until he resigned from his post in 1956.
And down this long post of mine I explain and quote about how Islam is superior and simpler than other religions. If Islam was nothing more than a ritualist religion I would have long rejected it but since I see the progressiveness and simplicity in True Islam I don't see why in the future there can't be a melding of Islam and Communism as both are among the progressive ideologies that came down human history including the concept called Demokratia devised in Greece 2500 years ago which was the first step in real democracy, not the unnecessarily complicated anti-democracy Anglo origin one we have operating in most of the world. Early Muslims were much inspired by Greek philosophy and that is why Muslim medicine is called Unani ( Greek ). And Gautama Buddha was also considered by early Muslim philosophers as one of the 124,000 prophets of Islam. These things are the same as your own statement about picking up the good ideas from other origins / ideologies. :)
 
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@Skull and Bones pointed to this too. It is highly possible, but on the other hand the OP bragged about it's accuracy and also explains the missile itself as a trustworthy platform. The solid fuel version is still being used by Indian Navy according to internet sources. So the missile is still active in the Indian missile arsenal.

Well if they showed RV hitting the target on pre-set camera position like how we show then it's all fine. They may be checking the re-entry vehicle or could be improved motor or many other possibilities exist.
 
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Well if they showed RV hitting the target on pre-set camera position like how we show then it's all fine. They may be checking the re-entry vehicle or could be improved motor or many other possibilities exist.
Btw, our testbed
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Versus theirs.
 
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There are no Vs here. Different Rocket institutions' R&D takes place in different ways.
There is ofcourse.

Look at the fins of Prithvi, aerodynamically it is a disaster at this time and age. I am not trying to undermine their achievements, but as the OP bragged about the missile, its still un use and the Indian strategic forces still count on this platform.

Those planar fins of type of flight control surfaces used in this missile are long expired. My little knowledge tells me that design is a disaster for a pro claimed missile power tgat launches satellite carriers. Unless all are imported technologies like other Indian systems with Russian/western origin
 
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There is ofcourse.

Look at the fins of Prithvi, aerodynamically it is a disaster at this time and age. I am not trying to undermine their achievements, but as the OP bragged about the missile, its still un use and the Indian strategic forces still count on this platform.

Those planar fins of type of flight control surfaces used in this missile are long expired. My little knowledge tells me that design is a disaster for a pro claimed missile power tgat launches satellite carriers. Unless all are imported technologies like other Indian systems with Russian/western origin
Okay man. Iran 10000000000 - India 0 (Happy?)
 
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There is ofcourse.

Look at the fins of Prithvi, aerodynamically it is a disaster at this time and age. I am not trying to undermine their achievements, but as the OP bragged about the missile, its still un use and the Indian strategic forces still count on this platform.

Those planar fins of type of flight control surfaces used in this missile are long expired. My little knowledge tells me that design is a disaster for a pro claimed missile power tgat launches satellite carriers. Unless all are imported technologies like other Indian systems with Russian/western origin


 
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Iranians do not need to brag about their missile capabilities. We have tested them on Americans against one of their well protected bases which hosted American defense ministers, presidents etc. Bother to read about Ain Al Assad airbase. After Iranian threats and also IRGC informing of Iraqi government about an imminent attack on American airbase, Americans evacuated most of their bases and left to Ain Al Assad base, considering it a safe heaven for their forces in the middle east.

I just shared my point of view about this missile mentioned in the OP. Unfortunately @Joe Shearer changed the course of discussion by playing the role of an smart a**.



Thanks for posting it, the Agni family is the proud of Indian strategic forces, no doubt about that. But i still hold my view on the missile mentioned in the OP. It has its own weaknesses. And it is completely capable of putting Indian achievements under question.

Not to mention that Iran has also unveiled its 2,000+ KM anti ship ballistic missile that landed near Nimitz AC in the Indian ocean.
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American damage controllers and online apologists said that this is not an indication of Iran's longer range anti ship capability, but who cares about American liars? The massage was delivered well.
 
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