Ahiska Turks are denied turkish passports

[meral]

The Turkish Government only cares about Syria to be able to deal with the Kurds in Hassaka in a post Assad Era , by the way the Turkish government suggested offering citizenship to 150 thousand Assyrian christians living in " Hassaka province " this is the place kurds refer to as " western kurdistan " . Turkey is only building alliances with various minorities in Syria who have problems with kurds and the Assyrians and kurds are sworn Enemies.

One one point the Turkish government will start encouraging overseas Turkic people to move into Southern eastern Turkey , not now but it will happen at one point .

I do not how kurdish people think but they are hated in every country they live in .

There is already 1,5 million Turkish speaking people and 2 million who forgot their language but claiming to be Türkmens in Syria. Turkish government is the enemy of Türks, dont you read what Ahıska writes, they denied giving citizenship to 4500 and more Ahıska people who are originally Anatolian Turkish and did their best to serve the country.

In Turkey we hate pkk cause they are terrorists and for non-pkk Kürts they are mostly uneducated, marry only with their cousins and they rape their cousins and then whole family comes together to choose a under 18 years old boy to kill the rape victim, sometimes when their women want to divorce the father of the woman kills the woman, last time one of them buried alive his own daughter cause she had a bf. They sell their daughters for marriage to older guys, there are 11-12 year old kurdish mothers, there was a kurdish guy who had 50 children, there is a campaign for kurdish girls to convince their families to send them to schools, there was one guy on the news who had to move from his village cause he wanted to send her daughter to high school and the other villagers objected... these stuff goes on and on and still in 2013... This happens in all of the kurdish families? no but it ONLY happens in kurdish families, sorry but there is no reason for us to love and praise kurdish culture

 

[Ahiska]

There is already 1,5 million Turkish speaking people and 2 million who forgot their language but claiming to be Türkmens in Syria. Turkish government is the enemy of Türks, dont you read what Ahıska writes, they denied giving citizenship to 4500 and more Ahıska people who are originally Anatolian Turkish and did their best to serve the country.

In Turkey we hate pkk cause they are terrorists and for non-pkk Kürts they are mostly uneducated, marry only with their cousins and they rape their cousins and then whole family comes together to choose a under 18 years old boy to kill the rape victim, sometimes when their women want to divorce the father of the woman kills the woman, last time one of them buried alive his own daughter cause she had a bf. They sell their daughters for marriage to older guys, there are 11-12 year old kurdish mothers, there was a kurdish guy who had 50 children, there is a campaign for kurdish girls to convince their families to send them to schools, there was one guy on the news who had to move from his village cause he wanted to send her daughter to high school and the other villagers objected... these stuff goes on and on and still in 2013... This happens in all of the kurdish families? no but it ONLY happens in kurdish families, sorry but there is no reason for us to love and praise kurdish culture

You are so right thank you.

 

[olcayto]

So ahiska let's say Turkey will announce they grant citizenship to all turkish people in Russia.
What would be the percentage of applications from your experience and point of view?

 

[Ahiska]

From my point of view it would be 70-80 percent because for many they made their existence in khazakstan and russia so they dont want to leave it behind and i think from 500-600 thousand 500 thousand would go Turkey

 

[Type 052D]

Looks like yesterdays explosions in Hatay confirm's Ahiska's statement. The Turks could kick out trouble making Syrians and give space for their fellow Turkic counterpart.

 

[olcayto]

From my point of view it would be 70-80 percent because for many they made their existence in khazakstan and russia so they dont want to leave it behind and i think from 500-600 thousand 500 thousand would go Turkey

I see.

Do you have any experience about other turkic people like Tatars and their opinions.

 

[Ahiska]

There are people that want to go to Turkey but the other Turkic people have their own republic in Russia where they became the majority so i dont think too many would come because the Ahiska dont have a country they want to come to Turkey.

There are people that want to go to Turkey but the other Turkic people have their own republic in Russia where they became the majority so i dont think too many would come because the Ahiska dont have a country they want to come to Turkey.

 

[olcayto]

I sincerely hope that somethings would change bro.

 

[meral]

So ahiska let's say Turkey will announce they grant citizenship to all turkish people in Russia.
What would be the percentage of applications from your experience and point of view?

I am sure these people would like to come here without thinking

Marcel Theroux presented Death Of A Nation Ahiska in Krasnodar 2006 AHIS

 

[meral]

So ahiska let's say Turkey will announce they grant citizenship to all turkish people in Russia.
What would be the percentage of applications from your experience and point of view?

I am sure these people would like to come here without thinking

Marcel Theroux presented Death Of A Nation Ahiska in Krasnodar 2006 AHIS

 

[Ahiska]

Under Soviet Russia there were many Turkic people and in WW2 they were drafted (estimated over 150ooo) into the army and fought battles againt Nazi Germany. Ahıska Türks (in English Meskhetian Turks) from teenagers to men as old as 40s also took part in the conflict. They joined the ranks (estimated over 40ooo) of the Soviets without any resistance, in fact many of them were thinking they were defending their villages from a possible Nazi invasion. Some of them went as far as into to Germany, survivors recieved medals from Soviet army.

But after the war was over (well actually in 1944 July), sufferings of the Ahiska Türks started. Stalin decided to deport all of the Ahiska Türks to into the middle Asia. The Soviet army marched into villages, gave the people 2 hours to prepare for the journey. It was a suprise for the people. Soldiers kicked out the families who were resisted, they couldnt understand why, war veterans tried to reason with the soldiers, showed their medals of honour given by the same army who now trying to get rid of them.

People (estimated over 110ooo, not included people who are managed to escape into Türkiye) were stuffed on freight trains until there were no space left in the wagons. They travelled without food or water, save what they could have gathered/carried with them. Army only stopped the trains once a day to throw away the death ones (estimated over 30ooo). And when they arrived (took one and half month) the destitaion (Kazakistan, Özbekistan and Kırgızistan), they were left to fend for themself. The locals treated them with prejudice, Ahiska Türks had to prove their Turkishness.

Kara Aliyev who was 103 years old in 2003 says "...later we arrived to Kazakhstan, we were left alone there; no house, no food. For 3-4 years we couldnt recovered..." He was a war veteran who fought in Ukraine front.

Ensar Osmanoğlu who was 84 years old in 2003 says "...they gave me medals but then they took my family..." refering the deaths of his family. He was a war veteran who fought in German(?Berlin?) front.

Yirgat Yusubov who was 82 years old in 2003 says "...when I returned home from war, I found my village is habited by Armenians and Georgian so I went to Kazakhstan to find my family..." He was a war veteran who fought in German(?Berlin?) front.

Why communist regime did that? What was the official reason?
But anyway today some say Stalin feared from the succes of Turkish brigade during the war. Some say Stalin feared a possible influence from Türkiye. Some say this was a plan to spread the minorities along the country. Some say it is part of a greater plan to put minorities against each other, to let them eat each other up. Some say regime didnt want muslim communities on its borders.

Can this be labeled as death march? An ethnic cleanness? A genocide? Should or did Russia paid compensation to current survivors? Nevertheless it is a tragedy. What did Ahiska Turks do wrong?

Disclamier: This isnt copy/paste but either my own words or rough translations done by me.
What is you opinion about it?