Afzal Guru's cellmate - Interview, simply awesome

[peagle]

There is lots of first-hand information regarding Afzal's life in prison and his personal life.

Plus, facts about forced disappearances and police "encounters" in India,
how it is a common occurrence, but rarely reported.

@Baibars_1260 @jamahir
thought it might interest you if you haven't seen it already

 

[jamahir]

@Baibars_1260 @jamahir
thought it might interest you if you haven't seen it already

A very interesting interview. Watched half an hour of it now. Will watch the rest tomorrow.

@Goenitz, please do watch it.

 

[Goenitz]

A very interesting interview. Watched half an hour of it now. Will watch the rest tomorrow.

@Goenitz, please do watch it.

Sure man... I will watch it later...

 

[Goenitz]

A very interesting interview. Watched half an hour of it now. Will watch the rest tomorrow.

@Goenitz, please do watch it.

so sad to hear.. not only about Afzal but also about Kobad... who will give his 10 years back. His wife died.
I hope Umar Khalid is set free soon.
Afzal was a gentleman, a father who was snatched by Dehli for the "the collective conscience of the society"

Also, I thought naxals have perished? Surprised ! they have a 'robinhood' status...

 

[jamahir]

so sad to hear.. not only about Afzal but also about Kobad... who will give his 10 years back. His wife died.

Yeah, and Kobad has become even more enlightened in jail.

I hope Umar Khalid is set free soon.

Yes that will be wonderful for all the sensible people. And from this article as of two days ago :

As Khalid was being taken to the court by armed policemen, a journalist from a pro-government TV channel tried to question him, to which Khalid asked the reporter: “For how long will you do paid journalism?”

He's as questioning as ever. Long may he be.

Afzal was a gentleman, a father who was snatched by Dehli for the "the collective conscience of the society"

From this article :

Eight years ago, the Supreme Court condemned Muhammad Afzal Guru to be hanged for his role in the 2001 attack on Parliament House, saying, astonishingly, that “the collective conscience of the society will only be satisfied if the capital punishment is awarded to the offender.” Guru was walked to the gallows Saturday morning at the end of the macabre rite governments enact from time to time to propitiate that most angry of gods, a vengeful public. Through this grim, secret ceremony, however, India has been gravely diminished. The reasons for this are not just the obvious ones — among them, that Guru was a bit-actor in the attack on Parliament, and his trial marred by procedural and substantive errors. These arguments were examined by the highest court in the country and found wanting. There is one argument, though, that wasn't ever examined — which is precisely why Guru, like scores of other Indians, ended up on death row in the first place. The answer has a great deal to do with expedience, and nothing to do with justice.

Also, I thought naxals have perished? Surprised ! they have a 'robinhood' status...

They are few thousand I think, stretched along the jungles from the East to the Center to the South, along what is called the Red Corridor.

The Indian establishment and pro-government media uses the phrase "Naxal-infested" to describe the places where the Naxalites are active. "Infested" as if these are cockroaches.

This Wikipedia page describes how many government personnel and materiel are fighting the Naxals :

Initially in 2009, the government of India had decided to move 80,000 central paramilitary personnel to wage offensive against the Maoists, strengthened by a fleet of 10 armed helicopters from the Indian Air Force. On 3 January 2013, the government of India issued a statement that it is deploying 10,000 more central paramilitary personnel in Bastar, Odisha and some parts of Jharkhand. By May 2013, about 84,000 troops from the CRPF had been stationed in the Red corridor to beef up the offensive. Apart from the paramilitary personnel, the SAPF personnel deployed in operations against the Maoists are estimated to number around 200,000. In his analysis in March 2014, Gautam Navlakha has claimed that 286,200 CRPF personnel along with 100,000 personnel from other central paramilitary forces and the SAPF are now engaged in the offensive against the CPI (Maoist) in 10 states of India. On 8 June 2014, the Minister of Home Affairs officially approved the deployment of another 10,000 troops from the paramilitary forces to fight against the Maoists in Chhattisgarh.

If only the Indian establishment had deployed these personnel against the right-wing extremists who are the real danger to India...

For some reason known to him, the last Congress party Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, called the Naxalites as the biggest internal danger to India. He should have said this of the right-wingers and called for their ban.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

There is lots of first-hand information regarding Afzal's life in prison and his personal life.

Plus, facts about forced disappearances and police "encounters" in India,
how it is a common occurrence, but rarely reported.

@Baibars_1260 @jamahir
thought it might interest you if you haven't seen it already

How can you trust lying,fraud Indian media?

 

[peagle]

How can you trust lying,fraud Indian media?

Are you feeling OK?
Or are you proving the Indians have small brains theory.

First don't apply blanket judgements on everyone and everything, that's being empty headed.

Discuss the facts involved, not your fantasies.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Are you feeling OK?
Or are you proving the Indians have small brains theory.

First don't apply blanket judgements on everyone and everything, that's being empty headed.

Discuss the facts involved, not your fantasies.

Isn't that the refrain when anything comes from Indian media that is not congruent with the Pakistani narrative? that Indian media is not to be trusted at all?

as for small brains---Small Brained Japanese dominated over everyother east Asian nation in science and technology for the last 168 years

 

[Goenitz]

How can you trust lying,fraud Indian media?

That would be a hell of 10 years plan. Imprison a person for 10 years, then make him the beacon against modi India, so that Pakistanis can trust him, whatever he say.
@jamahir
I will read later..
however, was it a political stunt for 2014 election?
Did congress mention him in any of the election campaign.

 

[peagle]

Isn't that the refrain when anything comes from Indian media that is not congruent with the Pakistani narrative? that Indian media is not to be trusted at all?

as for small brains---Small Brained Japanese dominated over everyother east Asian nation in science and technology for the last 168 years

Again you are proving your ignorance and proving the theory to be correct.

If we use your logic, then all 1.3 billion Indians are rapist and murderers, if a section holds a certain view or performs an actions does not mean it can be applied to the whole.
If you start a discussion with an assumption, you are being empty headed because you have assumed a persons viewpoint before it was heard, that is stupid and arrogant.

As I said earlier, discuss facts not your fantasies.

The study made a claimed about Indians not Japanese, so is the accusation, which you seem to be proving admirably. That Indians do in-fact have small brains. I would personally change "Indians" to "most Indians" rather than all.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

That would be a hell of 10 years plan. Imprison a person for 10 years, then make him the beacon against modi India, so that Pakistanis can trust him, whatever he say.
@jamahir
I will read later..
however, was it a political stunt for 2014 election?
Did congress mention him in any of the election campaign.

yes this is controlled opposition to infiltrate Pakistani mindspace

Again you are proving your ignorance and proving the theory to be correct.

If we use your logic, then all 1.3 billion Indians are rapist and murderers, if a section holds a certain view or performs an actions does not mean it can be applied to the whole.
If you start a discussion with an assumption, you are being empty headed because you have assumed a persons viewpoint before it was heard, that is stupid and arrogant.

As I said earlier, discuss facts not your fantasies.

The study made a claimed about Indians not Japanese, so is the accusation, which you seem to be proving admirably. That Indians do in-fact have small brains. I would personally change "Indians" to "most Indians" rather than all.

well you guys DO PAINT all Indians as murderers and rapists...I am not talking about the facts on the ground...But Pakistani view of it

 

[peagle]

yes this is controlled opposition to infiltrate Pakistani mindspace



well you guys DO PAINT all Indians as murderers and rapists...I am not talking about the facts on the ground...But Pakistani view of it

Those who do are idiots, just like YOU.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Those who do are idiots, just like YOU.

On the point..The man was a Communist guerilla ...The state had legitimate grievances against him..and he was put behind bars during Congress regime and not BJP

 

[srshkmr]

The Indian establishment and pro-government media uses the phrase "Naxal-infested" to describe the places where the Naxalites are active. "Infested" as if these are cockroaches.

They are terrorists as simple as that, worse than cockroaches

 

[peagle]

On the point..The man was a Communist guerilla ...The state had legitimate grievances against him..and he was put behind bars during Congress regime and not BJP

I do not now anything about the man, and to be perfectly honest I don't really care unless it effects me, got enough to worry about in real life.
What I found interesting was the forced disappearances and police encounters, I already knew it happened on a large scale, but always good to hear new perspectives.
And, Afzal Guru's story.