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Afghanistan seeks larger army in a bad neighbourhood


WASHINGTON: Afghanistan’s envoy in Washington has urged the US to help raise a 400,000-strong army and police force to deal with terrorists and with a ‘very dangerous neighbourhood.’

In a joint appearance with the Pakistani envoy at a Washington think-tank, Ambassador Said Jawad said the Afghans had no problem with US and Nato troops based in their country.

‘They are there to protect us. We want them to stay as long as they can. They are welcome,’ said Mr Jawad.

He also urged the United States and its allies to increase their military presence and economic assistance to Afghanistan.

He said that Afghanistan needed more help for a major expansion of its security forces, from the 134,000 army troops and 82,000 police personnel foreseen in the Obama plan.

To counter the resurgent Taliban and because ‘we live in a very dangerous neighbourhood,’ the Afghan army should number at least 250,000 and the police 150,000, the envoy said.

‘Right now you are paying with your blood and treasure in Afghanistan by sending your sons to fight for us,’ he said.

The Afghan ambassador said that President Obama's new strategy marked a welcome reorganisation of US goals.

‘The most sustainable way (to defeat extremism) is to create this capacity in us,’ he said, insisting Afghan President Hamid Karzai's government was already tackling the endemic police corruption identified by foreign donors.

He also rejected media reports as unfounded that India was using Afghan territory to stir troubles in Pakistan.

‘There is no truth in such reports. The Indians in Afghanistan are involved in reconstruction and humanitarian works. They are not using Afghanistan for any other purpose,’ he said.
 
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Afghanistan seeks larger army in a bad neighbourhood

WASHINGTON: Afghanistan’s envoy in Washington has urged the US to help raise a 400,000-strong army and police force to deal with terrorists and with a ‘very dangerous neighbourhood.’

In a joint appearance with the Pakistani envoy at a Washington think-tank, Ambassador Said Jawad said the Afghans had no problem with US and Nato troops based in their country.

‘They are there to protect us. We want them to stay as long as they can. They are welcome,’ said Mr Jawad.

He also urged the United States and its allies to increase their military presence and economic assistance to Afghanistan.

He said that Afghanistan needed more help for a major expansion of its security forces, from the 134,000 army troops and 82,000 police personnel foreseen in the Obama plan.

To counter the resurgent Taliban and because ‘we live in a very dangerous neighbourhood,’ the Afghan army should number at least 250,000 and the police 150,000, the envoy said.

‘Right now you are paying with your blood and treasure in Afghanistan by sending your sons to fight for us,’ he said.

The Afghan ambassador said that President Obama's new strategy marked a welcome reorganisation of US goals.

‘The most sustainable way (to defeat extremism) is to create this capacity in us,’ he said, insisting Afghan President Hamid Karzai's government was already tackling the endemic police corruption identified by foreign donors.

He also rejected media reports as unfounded that India was using Afghan territory to stir troubles in Pakistan.

‘There is no truth in such reports. The Indians in Afghanistan are involved in reconstruction and humanitarian works. They are not using Afghanistan for any other purpose,’ he said.

What else shall he say? They are involved, too in such activities so why shall he say, that his partner is destabilizing PAK?
 
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They need to raise their own professional army ASAP. So that they flush out Taliban from whatever area they are controlling right now. Joint operation of US & Afghan soldiers will be very productive, with firepower of US & knowledge of local demography of Afghan soldiers.
 
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What else shall he say? They are involved, too in such activities so why shall he say, that his partner is destabilizing PAK?

Now you want to say that Afghanistan wants to destabilize Pakistan? What will they get from that!!!! Unstable Pakistan will be headache for India as well as Afghanistan.
 
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What else shall he say? They are involved, too in such activities so why shall he say, that his partner is destabilizing PAK?

Why do you think it's everybody's usual business to destabilize Pakistan? You are saying as if every country in the world wakes up one fine morning & says - oh c'mon, let's go & destabilize Pakistan.

Why do you think that Pakistan has something, that everybody wants? If yes, tell me what that 'something' is.
 
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Why do you think it's everybody's usual business to destabilize Pakistan? You are saying as if every country in the world wakes up one fine morning & says - oh c'mon, let's go & destabilize Pakistan.

Why do you think that Pakistan has something, that everybody wants? If yes, tell me what that 'something' is.

It is this 'something' which always scared you indians. It is this 'something' which made ur politicians not to go to war to PAK after Mumbai. It is this 'something' you want to get your hands on because it destroys your plannings.
 
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They need to raise their own professional army ASAP. So that they flush out Taliban from whatever area they are controlling right now. Joint operation of US & Afghan soldiers will be very productive, with firepower of US & knowledge of local demography of Afghan soldiers.

Flush out the Talibans, ya right!

The ISAF can't do it, the newly raised Afghani militia would definitely get the job done.

BTW, as for your wonderful suggestion of knowledge of local demography by th Afghan soldiers, what do you think ANA is doing there?

And it is not the demography that needs to understood, probably you were referring to the geography and the terrain.
 
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Read this, it will tell what they need the army for....

THE GENESIS OF INDO-AFGHAN RELATIONS AND ITS IMPLICATIONS ON PAKISTAN

Pak-Afghan Relations

Emergence of Pakistan
From the outset the relations between the two countries remain cold, Afghanistan opposed the creation of Pakistan and did not recognize its territorial integrity.

The question revision of the Durand Line and the demand of the so called Pakhtoonistan were the main reasons.

Occupation Era
In 1961 Pakistan and Afghanistan came close to war.

In the first week of December 1979, Afghan President Haifzullah Amin, contacted President Zia and offered Afghanistan’s acceptance of Durand Line as the international frontier. However, he was executed by the invading Soviet forces on December 26, 1979 after which the relations between the two countries deteriorated again.

Soviet Occupation
The Soveits invaded Afghanistan in 1979, but anti-government guerilla forces prevented them to take control of Afghanistan. The paramount objective of Pakistan’s policy makers in supporting the Afghan War was to block the revival of Afghanistan nationalism and persuade a friendly government in Kabul.

Post Soviet Era
By 1989 when the Soviet left, in 1992 Burhanuddin Rabbani became the interim President. Rabbani’s govt had the feelings that Pakistan had betrayed a former friendship based on military, financial and logistic support during the Afghan civil war. These sentiments were expressed by Rabbani’s representative to UN, thus to Northern Alliance, Pakistan was left with no credibility to broker peace for Afghansitan.

Taliban Era

Taliban came to power on 27 September 1996. Pakistan as matter of its foreign policy have to secure western borders, thus had to recognize Talibans (the Indian threat). This recognition had many serious implications for Pakistan.

Post Taliban Era
The famous U-turn…no more comments.

Relations with the Present Setup
Karzai sworn as Chairman of Afghan interim administration, whose cabinet was drawn from representatives of Northern Allaince, the Rome Group loyal to former Kind Zahir Shah and Peshawar exile groups (all the people with anti-Pakistan sentiments), so the results were obvious.


Indo-Afghan Relations


Historically Afghanistan have been part and parcel of the Indian psyche:

1. In 1960s, Afghanistan became one of the top recipients of Indian economic aid. India played a critical role in bringing together various factions of theh Afghan left movement in 1970.

2. When Afghanistan became the final battle ground of the Cold War, india tended to tail Soviet policy rather than develop its own independent profile. India’s Afghan policy during the period of the Soveit interventionary war was contradictory. Although New Delhi, vociferously decrided the involvement of external powers in the regions’ security affairs, it maintained a guarded silence over the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

3. India’s relations with most Afghan regimes remained cordial except the Taliban rule. However, it would be worth mentioning that unlike Afghan regimes, Indian governments in general did not extend support to the struggle of Afghan people against the Soviet forces.

Relation During Taliban Regime
During the Talibans rule in mid 90s, india was completely marginalized.

The Indian embassy in Kabul was closed down the day Taliban captured the city.

Indian Relations with the Present Setup
India had been playing a backdoor role at the Bonn deliberations, which brought the present government in existence. Thereafter, General Fahim the Afghani Defence Minster the brother of Ahmad Shah Masud also visited Indian. Points to be kept in mind are:

a. The current President Karzai did his postgarduation in political sciences from Shimla in the 80s. With this new set of government, india found in Afghanistan, a Muslim neighbor to counter Pakistan.

b. With four consulates in Jalabad, Kandhar, Heart and Mazar-e-Sharif, besides the embassy in Kabul, india’s diplomatic reach has never been as wide in Afghanistan as it is today. For the first time since partition, india poised to contribute significantly to the political and economic affairs of Afghanistan.

Indian Efforts to Win the Minds of Afghan People

India with the objective of isolation Pakistan is going all out to win the hearts and minds of Afghan people by helping them with the support required for reconstruction and development. Some of the areas of cooperation are:

a. Indian announced a financial assistance of US $ 100 million for Afghanistan

b. Assistance of 1 million ton of wheat.

c. Assistance provided in November 2001:

1. A team of 19 doctors and paramedics deputed at Kabul and Mazar-e-Sharif fo providing medical assistance.

2. Nearly 95 tone of medicines, medical instruments and equipment have been sent.

3. Winter clothing was sent to provide immediate humanitarian relief in December 2001.

4. A consignment of musical instrument was sent to Kabul as requested
by Afghan Radio and Television.

5. A 3 months training program for the Afgahan diplomats commenced at Foreign Institute Delhi.

6. Provided 50 buses for the public transport system. The second lot of 25 Tata buses was handed over in July 2003.

7. A LAN network with internet access via V Sat was established with supply of necessary equipment in the office of Foreign Minister.

8. 12 courses have been indentified ofr training of 250 Afghan police officers and cadets in india, 2 courses have been already completed and 7 are currently running at various police academies in inida (God they all would be so friendly to us)

9. A computer training center has been setup in Kabul for providing training to Afghan officials.

10. Deputation of experts to assist Central Bank of Afghanistan.

11. Approximately 19 ton of vegetable seeds have been supplied to the agriculture ministry.

12. Training of Afghan doctors and paramedics from “Indra Ghandhi Institute of Child Health” at All India Institute of Medical Sciences for 3 months started in 2002.

13. Three airbuses aircrafts gifted to Afghan Airlines (Gosh india is rich)

14. Made in India show was held under the auspices of the Confederation of Indian Industry.

It can be ascertained that india would continue to enhance its influence in Afghanistan in order to exacerbate Pakistan’s internal front and ensure substantial military commitment by Pakistan along with Pak-Afghan border by having best relations with the present Afghan leadership, possessing anti Pakistan sentiments.

Analysis of Indian Design


Strategic and Political Aim

Present Afghan govt is being used by india for the purpose of:

1. On the occasion of reopening ceremony of Indian embassy in Kabul Mr Jaswant Singh said, “I have the distinction of formally reopening the Indian mission in Kabul after a painful gap of long time. India by conviction is a great power, but it is nit flexing its muscles. We are simply telling that rest of the world that india is on the march, and it will not be stopped. It is much better that the rest of the world recognizes this fact.”

2. In the ongoing war in Afghanistan, india was so eager to be a party to GWOT. India wants to kill four birds in one go:

a. Gain its share of loaf in Afghanistan.

b. Fulfill its aim in Kashmir on the plea that ‘it is also against terrorism’

c. ‘Kashmiri terrorism’ means backed by Pakistan so the war against Pakistan should be supported by the world.

d. Anything involving Pakistan to Bin Laden is Muslim terrorism, so anti Muslim hype can be and is being whipped up in india.


Threats Emanating from Indian Designs
Afghanistan
India lost direct access to Afghanistan and became dependent on Pakistan for maintaining contacts including trade relation between the two countries. However, india is pursuing its desire of enhancing its global reach by having friendly relation with Afghanistan and Iran:

1. Excellent political relations with the Afghan leadership and foreseeable prospect for large scale economic cooperation have come to define india’s ‘forward policy’ in Afghanistan.

2. Afghanistan has approved more investment proposals in the last year than in previous 46 years.

3. India is expected to waive all duties on certain types of dry fuites and precious stones from Afghanistan. In return india will get duty free access for tea, medicine and other items.

Hostile Western Border
indian diplomatic corps is reportedly busy cultivating relations with importnat militray commanders operating close to Pakistani boders, moreover, india is busy in making all her efforts to create a gulf of misunderstanding between Pakistan and Afghanistan. Following will give more details.

Durand Line
Controversy concerning in Pak-Afghan border, the sources asserted that it was just a canard motived by vested interests demanding demarcation of international border.

Pakhtoonistan
It is one of the prime intrests of idia to keep the issue of so called Pakhtoonistan alive. indian has always been very supportive, and after 1965 war announced its open support to the so called 'Pakhtoonistan movement'

Law and Order
indian connections with former Afghan President Rabbani primarily dirceted towards creating problems for Pakistan.

Economic Threat
india is trying to bypass Pakistan by developing relations with the required infrastructure through Iran's Chahbahar port to have access to landlocked CARs and European countries.

india is basically desirous to divert the attention of international market and especially CARs away from Pakistan.

Tashkent's focus had shifted from Karachi to Mumbai for access to a global market.

Maligning Pakistan's Image

india has launched a strong media campaign, as evident from some of the following:
-' We are amused, disappointed but not surprised by refusal of Pakistan to cooperate with us to eradicate scourge of terrorism.

-'Together with Afghanistan, Pakistan became the epicenter of international terrorism. So long as this activity was promoted Pakistan's strategic interests were directed against india and it was ignored by the West'

-'While deep concerns are mounting about the nexus between fundamentalism, terrorism anmd weapons of mass destruction, the spot light is not on Pakistan, which has all the three ingredients of concern, plus the additional one of fears of it becoming a 'Failed State'.

We have seen how there is a remarkable lack of curiosity about Pakistan's nuclear connections with North Korea in exchange for missile technology, which poses grave challenges to indian security.

-'Pakistan is also deeply enmeshed in a narcotics problem that is complex, multifaceted and growing. Pakistan is a major producer of opium'.
 
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BHUSHAN...Any more baiting and mockery from you, and you're gonna be asking for a straight ban. Let this be your only WARNING.
 
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