Afghani Taliban's view on Pakistan and Durand Line.

[Ahmad]

Please ignore the title of the youtube video.

 

[Spring Onion]

Ok thank You )))


it doesnt affect us at all and if so why should we leave our beloved province of our beloved country Pakistan for you lolzzz

 

[Ahmad]

Ok thank You )))


it doesnt affect us at all and if so why should we leave our beloved province of our beloved country Pakistan for you lolzzz

I didnt claim this dear Jana, this is what the taliban fighters say.

 

[DV RULES]

@Ahmed

thanks for the vid, it proves my point that ISI is responsible for creating and now running Taliban, also brainwashing young Pashtun boys is also a part of the ISI strategy to use as suicide bombers against india.

You need to go through threads and historical material over Afghan war and then do a favour in giving your comments after study. Even Afgans didn't know what foreign plans made and terminated by Pakistan to ruin Afghan sovereignty, why Pakistan struggled for them in Past.

Indian propaganda over ISI is well known history and some respectable citizens like you often fell into their magic.

In two paragraphs a whole history can't be describe but to discuss positively or effectively there must be topic study background. I hope you understand it.

 

[DV RULES]

Jana, do you know who's responsible for the present state of FATA? Do you know that this same TTP who the Pakistan army is doing a so called "Jihad" against (its become a jihad, wow) was once a part of the Afghan Taliban? The same Taliban who were once called "children" by the generals of Pakistan army?

In fact they wanted to use these groups against india in a future conflict, the ISI and Pak armed forces could care less how many Afghans die at the hands of these snakes that they so lovingly raised, but now that this snake is biting back they have been labeled "miscreants"?

You are missing so many realities, just go to thread " http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/91906-foreign-espionage-network-pakistan-2.html" Last post article(10 year old), what CIA did in Bosnia war and role of AQ there. What i want to say we don't want bloodshed in Afghanistan but we also don't want that people so easily forget who died for them in battle field. We have our own regional interests & strategies but not at cost of Muslim brother's blood.

Behind mask there could be any body speak against Pakistan in Pushtu & Persian and covey planned message.

 

[Ahmad]

The main point of this thread was to show the attitude of Taliban(apparantly seen as pakistani friendly movement by many in pakistan) to Pakistan and Durand Line(so called).

 

[Spring Onion]

The main point of this thread was to show the attitude of Taliban(apparantly seen as pakistani friendly movement by many in pakistan) to Pakistan and Durand Line(so called).

In international politics NObody is friend neither foe but only when it serves interests of both.

Taliban or anti-Taliban forces all are working for own interests.

All of current rivals in Afghanistan including Northern Alliance and all current factions of Pukhtuns in Afghanistan were once ONE party fighting under US and Pakistan against USSR.

Now since fall of USSR all of them were bickering for internal power in their country so all walked away to different groups for own interests.

So i see no difference between any of the group.

 

[Ahmad]

In international politics NObody is friend neither foe but only when it serves interests of both.

Taliban or anti-Taliban forces all are working for own interests.

All of current rivals in Afghanistan including Northern Alliance and all current factions of Pukhtuns in Afghanistan were once ONE party fighting under US and Pakistan against USSR.

Now since fall of USSR all of them were bickering for internal power in their country so all walked away to different groups for own interests.

So i see no difference between any of the group.

Thanks for a great reply. But sadly alot of other people are in a deep denial.

 

[Spring Onion]

Thanks for a great reply. But sadly alot of other people are in a deep denial.

well history is testimony to the fact .

many such strategic moves alliances broken and turned into rivals when the mutual interests are no more , many foes become friends.

and oh who can forget same Taliban were once partners with US in gas pipeline. now they are enemy so.

its a game of interests nobody is good or bad

 

[JonAsad]

The only thing i understand from the video is-
According to the talibs-

Talibs hate Pakistan because we are friends of non-muslims-
Musharraf has came from India and is the King of Pakistan- and a Punjabi-
Talibs think Musharraf have very bad thoughts about Afghanistan because Musharraf ordered arrest of some mujahdeens-
Talibs think Musharraf has meetings with non-muslims- thats why they hate Pakistan-

and about Durrand Line-
Talibs think Quetta and Peshawar are part of Afghanistan- because Pakistan is friends with non- muslims-

From the video
Almost all the talibs hate Pakistan because we are firends with non-muslims- huh....
What a useless propaganda journalism-

They hate us- no problem- we hate them back- but at least hate us for some genuine reason-
I seems like illiterate talibs majority does not know why they hate Pakistan- only reasons they have is "that we are friends with non-muslims- :facepalm:

 

[Ahmad]

The only thing i understand from the video is-
According to the talibs-

Talibs hate Pakistan because we are friends of non-muslims-
Musharraf has came from India and is the King of Pakistan- and a Punjabi-
Talibs think Musharraf have very bad thoughts about Afghanistan because Musharraf ordered arrest of some mujahdeens-
Talibs think Musharraf has meetings with non-muslims- thats why they hate Pakistan-

They havent won the fight against coalition forces yet. What will be their reaction to Pakistan once they think they are the winner(if it ever happens), that remains to be seen, but from this attitude, we all know what they would do.

and about Durrand Line-
Talibs think Quetta and Peshawar are part of Afghanistan- because Pakistan is friends with non- muslims-

No, that is not exactly what they mean. They put claim on NWFP and Quetta because they see them as their Pashton brothers. Otherwise why dont they have any claim on Islamabad.

From the video
Almost all the talibs hate Pakistan because we are firends with non-muslims- huh....
What a useless propaganda journalism-

This is not the only video indicating this, there have been many other reports that the Taliban fighters hate Paksitan. Mullah Abdul Salam Zaef once the Taliban ambasadar to Pakistan have clearly shown his hate to pakistan in his interviews and a book.

They hate us- no problem- we hate them back- but at least hate us for some genuine reason-
I seems like illiterate talibs majority does not know why they hate Pakistan- only reasons they have is "that we are friends with non-muslims- :facepalm:

It is not about friendship with the Kafir, they say that you have joined hands with them to punish the Taliban. The second reason is the durand line why Taliban are not keen on pakistan.

 

[KS]

Looks like the 'Good' Taliban are not so good afterall.

 

[Spring Onion]

They havent won the fight against coalition forces yet. What will be their reaction to Pakistan once they think they are the winner(if it ever happens), that remains to be seen, but from this attitude, we all know what they would do.



No, that is not exactly what they mean. They put claim on NWFP and Quetta because they see them as their Pashton brothers. Otherwise why dont they have any claim on Islamabad.



This is not the only video indicating this, there have been many other reports that the Taliban fighters hate Paksitan. Mullah Abdul Salam Zaef once the Taliban ambasadar to Pakistan have clearly shown his hate to pakistan in his interviews and a book.



It is not about friendship with the Kafir, they say that you have joined hands with them to punish the Taliban. The second reason is the durand line why Taliban are not keen on pakistan.

Ahmad all their rhetoric are based on their fear that without us they cant prove themselves against their rivals in Afghanistan or to say they need us to prove their majority against non-Pukhtuns in Afghanistan

otherwise there is zilch zero chance under international law for wielding this rhetoric

whereas we Pakistani Pukhtuns have no love for joining them.

 

[Spring Onion]

احمد ما نميخواهيم به طرف دیگر با طالبان برايمبارزه با تاجيک, هزاره و ازبک افغانها

 

[Rafi]

Ahmad all their rhetoric are based on their fear that without us they cant prove themselves against their rivals in Afghanistan or to say they need us to prove their majority against non-Pukhtuns in Afghanistan

otherwise there is zilch zero chance under international law for wielding this rhetoric

whereas we Pakistani Pukhtuns have no love for joining them.

We Pakistani Pukhtuns and Punjabis (as well as other ethnic's) are together forever Inshallah, no power on earth can break us apart, we live in each others provinces - we have inter married - and have family relations.