Afghan Soldier Kills Two US-led Soldiers Over Insulting Women

[nawazshahzad]

This isn't the first incident, at least third in few months. and if US can't even get along with Afghan troops, whatever will become of winning hearts and minds of ordinary folks.

A media report says that an Afghan soldier killed two US-led soldiers in a shoot-out when they tried to remove an Afghan woman's veil by force.

An exchange of fire between two Spanish soldiers and an Afghan police trainee left all three killed in northwestern Afghanistan's Badghis Province on Wednesday.

Informed sources told the Pashtun language Benava website on Thursday that the deadly incident took place after soldiers were disrespectful to the women and insulted Afghans' cultural and Islamic values.

Thousands of Afghan protesters subsequently staged a rally outside a Spanish base in the region.

The protesters also called on the Afghan government to send Spanish troops to their country.

Protesters set fire to parts of the base and were met by bullets from the foreign troops. US-led troops reportedly opened fire at demonstrators, killing dozens of people and wounding more than 20 other civilians.

More than 800 Spanish soldiers are stationed in Afghanistan within the framework of NATO forces.
Some 140,000 US-led troops are currently deployed in the war-ravaged country.

A further 10,000 are expected to be deployed to Afghanistan in the coming weeks.

Meanwhile, the security situation is believed to have been deteriorated in Afghanistan with US-led forces being killed by Taliban militants on a nearly daily basis. Published in Press TV

Source: Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz

 

[r4rehan]

This isn't the first incident, at least third in few months. and if US can't even get along with Afghan troops, whatever will become of winning hearts and minds of ordinary folks.

A media report says that an Afghan soldier killed two US-led soldiers in a shoot-out when they tried to remove an Afghan woman's veil by force.

An exchange of fire between two Spanish soldiers and an Afghan police trainee left all three killed in northwestern Afghanistan's Badghis Province on Wednesday.

Informed sources told the Pashtun language Benava website on Thursday that the deadly incident took place after soldiers were disrespectful to the women and insulted Afghans' cultural and Islamic values.

Thousands of Afghan protesters subsequently staged a rally outside a Spanish base in the region.

The protesters also called on the Afghan government to send Spanish troops to their country.

Protesters set fire to parts of the base and were met by bullets from the foreign troops. US-led troops reportedly opened fire at demonstrators, killing dozens of people and wounding more than 20 other civilians.

More than 800 Spanish soldiers are stationed in Afghanistan within the framework of NATO forces.
Some 140,000 US-led troops are currently deployed in the war-ravaged country.

A further 10,000 are expected to be deployed to Afghanistan in the coming weeks.

Meanwhile, the security situation is believed to have been deteriorated in Afghanistan with US-led forces being killed by Taliban militants on a nearly daily basis. Published in Press TV

Source: Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz

AFGHAN ARE AFGHAN,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[rameez ahmed]

that afghan soldier is really a true martyr. May Allah grant him Jannat. Amin

 

[GentlemanObserver]

I am going to take flak for saying this but that solider defended that woman's chastity, obviously i can only say this based on what i have read so far on the issue.

I was under the impression that foreign troops undergo "cultural sensitivity" training prior to deployment. Those Spanish soldiers were blatantly insensitive towards the woman.

A tragic loss of life that need not occur. Just station female searchers on sensitive check-posts. And train foreign troops better in the cultural values of the country they are operating in.

 

[dbc]

Here is the original Reuters story no mention of unveiling of women.

Three Spaniards killed in Afghan rogue attack | Reuters

Three Spaniards killed in Afghan "rogue" attack By Sharafuddin Sharafyar
HERAT, Afghanistan | Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:03pm EDT
(Reuters) - Two Spanish police and an interpreter were killed by an Afghan policeman they were training on Wednesday, an untimely attack as questions grow over the readiness of Afghan forces to take over from foreign troops.

The shootings at a remote Spanish-run base in Afghanistan's northwest appeared to be the latest in a string of recent attacks by "rogue" police and soldiers, underlining the pressure as NATO-led troops try to train Afghan forces rapidly to allow the handover of security responsibility to begin from next July.

It came a day after the top U.S. Marine, General James Conway, said President Barack Obama's timeline to begin withdrawing troops had given a morale boost to Taliban insurgents who believe they can wait out foreign forces.

With U.S. public opinion of the conflict souring as casualties rise, Conway's unusually blunt assessment will likely fan criticism of Obama's war strategy ahead of congressional elections in November and a strategy review a month later.

Wednesday's attack sparked a protest by hundreds of angry Afghans outside the base in Qalay-e Naw, the provincial capital of northwestern Badghis province.

"The incident took place during a police training course and two Spanish policemen and an interpreter of Spanish nationality lost their lives," Spain's Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba told Spanish radio.

"The security forces responded to the attack and shot and killed the assassin," he said.

Violence across Afghanistan is at its worst since the overthrow of the Taliban in 2001, despite the presence of almost 150,000 foreign troops.

The Taliban-led insurgency has spread out of traditional strongholds in the south and east into once peaceful areas in the north and west, forcing NATO-led troops to step up operations.

GUNSHOT WOUNDS

Badghis governor Dilbar Jan Arman said at least 1,000 protesters tried to storm the base, which lies near the border with Turkmenistan. Spanish officials disputed that number.

Mohammad Sadiq, a surgeon at a government hospital in Qalay-e Naw, said at least 18 demonstrators, many suffering bullet wounds, had been brought in for treatment.

He said several of the wounded were in critical condition. Television pictures showed one Afghan man bleeding from an apparent gunshot wound.

Protesters accused troops inside the base of firing on them.

"After the attack, a group of Afghan citizens approached the base and some attempted assaults on the base occurred, which were repelled by Afghan soldiers and policemen," Rubalcaba later told reporters.

The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said the reason for the initial shooting remained unclear. It confirmed there had been a protest outside the base.

Taliban spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf said the policeman had been a member of the Islamist group, although the Taliban often claim responsibility for incidents involving the deaths of foreign troops, who they want out of Afghanistan.

NATO-led forces are ramping up efforts to train the Afghan army and police to eventually take over, with Afghan President Hamid Karzai setting an ambitious target of 2014 for Afghan forces to take over security responsibility from foreign troops.

Tensions between Afghans and their foreign trainers have also increased, with Wednesday's attack the third such incident in the past month.

"STILL A THREAT"

Doubts also surfaced this week among U.S. commanders about Obama's timetable to begin withdrawals, as well as the likely readiness of Afghan forces.

"In some ways, we think right now it is probably giving our enemy sustenance," Conway told reporters in Washington on Tuesday, referring to Obama's July 2011 timeline.

Afghan officials agreed.

"There is still a threat which unfortunately has not been eliminated, and the withdrawal (deadline) will ... invigorate the terrorists," said Karzai's spokesman Siamak Herawi.

Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman Zahir Azimy said the withdrawal of foreign troops "should be based on the capability of the Afghan security forces."

Supporters of Obama's withdrawal plan, conditions permitting, say it conveys a much-needed sense of urgency to Kabul. Critics say the strategy has backfired, sending a signal to the Taliban that the United States was preparing to wind down the war.

With Obama's strategy review and the important congressional elections looming, an unnerving number of his military commanders have acknowledged the challenges that lay ahead.

Such comments appear to minimize the likelihood of any substantial change in the conflict by next July.

U.S. Lieutenant General William Caldwell, in charge of training Afghan forces, said big hurdles remained and that it will take until late October 2011 to build up Afghanistan's police and military before they can take over in more than just isolated pockets of the country.

(Additional reporting by Sayed Salahuddin, Hamid Shalizi, Andrew Hammond in Kabul, Phil Stewart and Sue Pleming in WASHINGTON and Raquel Castillo and Jonathan Gleave in MADRID; Writing by Paul Tait; Editing by Alex Richardson)

 

[mjnaushad]

Here is the original Reuters story no mention of unveiling of women.

Three Spaniards killed in Afghan rogue attack | Reuters

So the question is did unveiling thing never happend or they just didn't publish it?

 

[somebozo]

Was he a taliban too?? Come on stop blaming Afghan freedom fighter resistance on talibans. Afghan fighers = brave
taliban = coward terrorist.

 

[muse]

if US can't even get along with Afghan troops, whatever will become of winning hearts and minds of ordinary folks

American are victims of ideology - it has been explained to them, over and over again, that the social attitudes of most Afghans are not very different from those the Talib hold, particularly when it comes to women.

But the ideology, the narrative, of the US types and one that is carefully and regularly fed by their Afghan employees (see Wikileaks), is that the Afghan are in reality very European in their sensibilities - "women used to wear mini-skirts", the Afghan employees of the US seem never tire of offering, but women wearing min-skirts in one street in Kabul, is not something that can be applied to all Afghanistan.

Now, from the stand point of a US trooper or really any other trooper/Jawan, they know the talib uses Burqa to disquise himself, just imagine their predicament, their job is to save lives and yet...

Why wasn't a trained Afghan soldier with the US troopers, I mean with them, standing right next to them, helping them question and discussing how best to do this?

 

[gubbi]

Why wasn't a trained Afghan soldier with the US troopers, I mean with them, standing right next to them, helping them question and discussing how best to do this?

Spanish troops under NATO/ISAF command, not US troops.

@OP. The blog that this dude posts here is ridiculous. That blogger guy seems to be one of those wannabe journos or some sort of expert (along with another wannabe -Haq's musings!), but falls pathetically short with posting such drivel!

 

[r3alist]

this sounds like exactly the type of thing the taliban would do

in fact, had the taliban done this an indian would have started the thread


but people need to start realising that the taliban represent xenophobic afghan resistance more than they do islam, there are certain customs, beliefs and traditions which cannot be separated, whether you be taliban or ordinary afghan!!

 

[CardSharp]

Here is the original Reuters story no mention of unveiling of women.

Three Spaniards killed in Afghan rogue attack | Reuters

You see this as being proof that it didn't happen but I see it as a massive white-washing of responsibility from those Spaniards.

 

[muse]

US or ISAF -- same difference

an Afghan soldier killed two US-led soldiers in a shoot-out when they tried to remove an Afghan woman's veil by force

 

[KingOfGods]

Afghan fighers = brave
taliban = coward terrorist.

I support you on that

 

[KingOfGods]

So the question is did unveiling thing never happend or they just didn't publish it?

Yup

 

[Spring Onion]

Spanish troops under NATO/ISAF command, not US troops.

@OP. The blog that this dude posts here is ridiculous. That blogger guy seems to be one of those wannabe journos or some sort of expert (along with another wannabe -Haq's musings!), but falls pathetically short with posting such drivel!

It said US-LED means some other NATO/ISAF led by US .



As Death by Chocolate said there was no mention of women in the news we have already read yesterday BUT what the Western media was portraying without giving reasons that entire village was angry over killing of local Afghan policemen by NATO soldiers after one policeman killed two foreign soldiers.


Now its unfolding why the outrage. There is some truth in this news about insulting women by these foreign invaders otherwise US/NATO kills a local policeman or a local policeman kills these soldiers, villagers hardly show such anger.

See the pictures they are throwing big stones on these soldiers