What's new

Afghan Refugees - Should Pakistan expell them to India?

Should Pakistan expell post 9/11 Afghan refugees to India?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 58.6%
  • No

    Votes: 29 41.4%

  • Total voters
    70
Indian intelligence agencies should help Afghans establish a strong foothold every nook and corner of Pakistan. They will turn out to be great assets in the times of need.
Nothing kills better than a disease from inside which is not only hard to diagnose and but also difficult to control.
 
Last edited:
.
Believe me,i have yet to meet a anti Pakistan Afghan and we have more like 10%-20% of city population as afghan

Then why the perception of anti Pakistan Afghans have been built. Surely there is some truth to it, speaking from my own experience?
 
.
Afghan refugees are a huge burden on Pakistan. We have hosted them for decades but they still remain largely anti Pakistan to a point of ignorant hatred. It was Zia's 'ummah' decision to let them in droved when soviets were killing them like mosquitos. Pakistan's economy has been wrecked, AKs, drugs, kidnappings and crimes are a common thing for them and now in some areas they have been acquiring fake CNICs to buy or illegally occupy land and property.

The same afghan refugees were also trained in the KSA backed madarsas in nwfp and hordes were unleashed to back Mullah Omar during the 1994 onslaught on the Najibullah government.
In 2001 alone, according to several international sources, 28,000-30,000 Pakistani nationals, 14,000-15,000 Afghan Taliban and 2,000-3,000 Al-Qaeda militants were fighting against anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan as a roughly 45,000 strong military force

@Horus where was this hatred for afghans back then, when hordes of pakistan were rushing to the afghan gold rush?
Afghanistan resistance leader feared dead in blast - Telegraph
Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
.
The same afghan refugees were also trained in the KSA backed madarsas in nwfp and hordes were unleashed to back Mullah Omar during the 1994 onslaught on the Najibullah government.
In 2001 alone, according to several international sources, 28,000-30,000 Pakistani nationals, 14,000-15,000 Afghan Taliban and 2,000-3,000 Al-Qaeda militants were fighting against anti-Taliban forces in Afghanistan as a roughly 45,000 strong military force

@Horus where was this hatred for afghans back then, when hordes of pakistan were rushing to the afghan gold rush?
Afghanistan resistance leader feared dead in blast - Telegraph
Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fighting in that was worth it but it was a big mistake at the same time.
 
.
Didn't go through the whole article, just heading was enough to piss me off.
1-what has india got to do with afghan refugees?
2-provide more recruits for their proxy war against Pakistan?
3-How can you legally expel someone to a third country?



Afghan refugees are a huge burden on Pakistan. We have hosted them for decades but they still remain largely anti Pakistan to a point of ignorant hatred. It was Zia's 'ummah' decision to let them in droved when soviets were killing them like mosquitos. Pakistan's economy has been wrecked, AKs, drugs, kidnappings and crimes are a common thing for them and now in some areas they have been acquiring fake CNICs to buy or illegally occupy land and property.

Despite our best efforts to integrate them, they refuse to do so. Afghan refugees are a huge source of suicide attack manpower and for giving refuge to the insurgents who misuse Pashtunwali's laws about hospitality and protection.

Afghanistan is now stabilizing and we must demand the new govt to enter a gradual but complete repatriation of their refugees from our country. This however is unlikely because letting them live inside Pakistan illegally is the easiest solution for them.

Most Pakistani Pashtuns are against their precense as they are the worst hit community by Zia's 'Ummah migration' policy. Afghans refuse to sign an unwritten 'Misaq e Madina', remain anti Pakistan but pro India.

Integration policy has failed, Afghanistan won't take them back and international community won't do anything either. Since India is bent on containing Pakistan using the Chanakya doctrine, with sole objective of either destroying us or trying to establish hegemony.

If we can't find a solution to the Afghan refugee problem, we should use them as a foreign policy tool. We should relocate all Afghan refugees who came after 9/11 to the border areas of Pakistan, just a few kms away from India in well organized camps.

Since Bharat is their 'friend', and we are the sole evil preventing Afghanistan from becoming the land of milk and honey, it ought to be...we ought to put this 'friendship' to the test.

We know the undercurrent of the 'strategic alliance'.A Hindu India's only 'love affair'with its former Muslim master, Afghanistan is to destroy Pakistan, just like its only interest with Muktis was to break up Pakistan to create the vessel state of Bangladesh.

Just like China is testing the US , East Asian gang by harassing ships, moving rigs and claiming barren Islands with a sole objective of pushing the new alliance into a perpetual fatigue ; we should do the same by a mass displacement and relocation of post 9/11 Afghan refugees to Indian borders.

It it too fails to pacify Afghanistan, it at least will create a thorn in their 'love affair'of hating Pakistan when the Afghans will run to their 'strategic ally' across the border and BSF will do what it does to its Bengali 'allies'.

* Afghanistan will be pacified.
* Our own people will know that country takes their concerns seriously.

* Afg-Indian 'alliance' will be put to a perpetual test, strain and die a premature death.

* We still get to keep them in our lands and leverage them with Afghanistan.

* If India takes them in to save face, that may not be in our interest but isn't against our interest either. A few million more Muslims in Bharat can't be all that bad for us. They hate us any way so its works fine for us.

Thoughts?
 
.
Fighting in that was worth it but it was a big mistake at the same time.
Well.. then the afghan refugees is the price to pay.... blame your leaders for poor strategic analysis as always..
 
.
Horus said:
If we can't find a solution to the Afghan refugee problem, we should use them as a foreign policy tool. We should relocate all Afghan refugees who came after 9/11 to the border areas of Pakistan, just a few kms away from India in well organized camps.

Since Bharat is their 'friend', and we are the sole evil preventing Afghanistan from becoming the land of milk and honey, it ought to be...we ought to put this 'friendship' to the test.
You gotta be kidding me!
I'm sure the word "refugee" conjures up images of rows of tents, barefoot children and saddened faces in your mind but the reality is more complex.And as @Jungibaaz said many Afghan refugees have developed lives alongside Pakistani nationals marrying, working, loving and learning together.What would you do to 'em?
I've heard some Pakistanis say “They have taken all of our country’s resources”.How 3-4 million (approx) Afghans managed to do this to a population of over 180 million remains a mystery?
And isnt UNHCR’s voluntary repatriation programme helping the Afghans to return home from Pakistan and Iran??
AFAIK the UN agency also supports the sustainable reintegration of Afghans who decide to return to their country.And the silver lining is GoP receives $133 million a year from UNHCR for hosting Afghans on its side of the border.
133 million for hosting a population of 3 million...not a bad deal eh?


Special thanks to @JonAsad & @karan.1970 for the epic trolling in senior's cafe. :P
 
Last edited:
.
Pakistan should seriously consider strategically flooding india with Afghan refugees , once there are 6 to 7 million Afghan refugees in india then all Pakistan has to do is sit back and watch
 
. .
Since most of the Afghan leaders were once give shelter in Pakistan and later became arch-enemies of Pakistan. I am not a fan of the Afghan refugees. Nevertheless, I am a human being first & foremost and would always respect the dignity of the down trodden and displaced persons irrespective of them being anti-Pakistani Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and /or Afghan refugees and would never agree to simply gather them and drive them across like a herd of animals.

Only the heartless butchers such as Saddam Hussein would forcibly repatriate about 300,000 Feyli Kurds to Iran during the 1990s. Understand nearly 15,000 of these poor people perished during the process.

(https://www.refworld.org/docid/3ae6ac008.html ).

And now the same treatment is likely to be meted out to some of the unfortunate Muslims from Assam by another butcher Narendra Modi.

Pakistan should make all-out efforts to send all the Afghans refugees back, but I would not support any forced repatriation of these people.
 
.
Expel them to India, mars or caves of Afghanistan where they came from but no haram khor ungrateful refugee should live in Pakistan. Those minority peaceful Afghan who keep no hatred and grudges for Pakistan and Pakistani should live in there.
 
.
Expel them to India, mars or caves of Afghanistan where they came from but no haram khor ungrateful refugee should live in Pakistan. Those minority peaceful Afghan who keep no hatred and grudges for Pakistan and Pakistani should live in there.

whatta fascist !!

Blaming misery of 220 million citizens on less than a million refugees of war.
 
.
whatta fascist !!

Blaming misery of 220 million citizens on less than a million refugees of war.
Mr troll If few thousands play in hands of RAW and sponsor terrorist and criminal activities in Pakistan then its enough to bring misery for 220 millions..only person with no self respect and dignity would allow those people who hate his ethnic and national identity. You should not be living in a country which you hate so much. Hard to understand?
 
.
Mr troll If few thousands play in hands of RAW and sponsor terrorist and criminal activities in Pakistan then its enough to bring misery for 220 millions..only person with no self respect and dignity would allow those people who hate his ethnic and national identity. You should not be living in a country which you hate so much. Hard to understand?

I find it hard to believe a handful of miscreants running amok due to poor governance can lead to this much hate and prejudice towards entertaining refugees.

This overblown hype of immigration and refugees is a very European problem and better not be imposed on Pakistan.
 
.
I find it hard to believe a handful of miscreants running amok due to poor governance can lead to this much hate and prejudice towards entertaining refugees.

This overblown hype of immigration and refugees is a very European problem and better not be imposed on Pakistan.
Why you are so dumb and always talk irrelevant. My post was simple. If someone hate my country and my people then should we keep him in here? I said no such people are welcome here. What is your objection?
 
.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom