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It seems like there is alot of manipulation and media campaigns going on these days. First there was the campaign to put Ashraf Ghani as the leading candidate in the up coming Afghan election. and it now it seems the target has turned to why Karzai is not signing the BSA. Is this the beginning of the second push by the donors to through Karzais on to the street and out of the presidential palace?
Following is some excerpts from an article by the US's government sponsored Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty.

Afghan Government Investigates TV Ads Supporting U.S. Security Deal



After a series of television ads urging the president to sign the agreement hit the airwaves, the presidential office on January 16 ordered the Attorney General's Office to launch an investigation.

Key to the investigation is determining who is funding the ads, which have been aired on more than a dozen private and state TV stations over the past month.

Karzai's refusal to ink the deal -- formally known as a Bilateral Security Agreement (BSA), which would set the terms for a continued U.S. troop presence in Afghanistan after 2014 -- has been met with anger and bewilderment both abroad and at home.



The head of the Afghan government’s Media and Information Center, Safatullah Safi, said the TV ads were misleading the public about the BSA. He did not reveal the names of the stations under investigation.

Safi said the president wants to know who is behind the ads -- be it TV station owners, political opposition groups, or foreign intelligence services -- because they were a threat to national security.

"We have ordered the Attorney General’s Office to investigate who is behind this propaganda, which is promoting a political agenda. This should be made clear," Safi said.

The TV ads have not been aired since the investigation was launched.

The president has also ordered the Culture Ministry to open its own investigation.

Jallal Noorani, an adviser to the Culture Ministry, said many private television stations and newspapers are owned, or at least influenced, by powerful figures in the country and by neighboring countries. He says it is therefore important to find out who is funding the TV ads.


Noorani also said the president had ordered the ministry to look into allegations that the TV stations that ran the ads did not have the necessary licenses to air political messages.

"The president has said these ads carry a political message and are misleading the public. We therefore take the president's concerns seriously and we will pursue this. If the stations did not have the proper documentation then they have broken the law," Noorani said.


The full article can be found here Afghan Government Investigates TV Ads Supporting U.S. Security Deal
 
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Sign BSA and move on.

Karazai better quit this dilly dallying.

And why on earth he would do that. It's his trump card you want him to throw it just like that. Why not milk them for all it's worth?
 
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And why on earth he would do that. It's his trump card you want him to throw it just like that. Why not milk them for all it's worth?

Not a trump card dear.

It is a card that will save him from the fate of Najibullah

protection from haning from a telephone pole in Kabul.
 
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Not a trump card dear.

It is a card that will save him from the fate of Najibullah

protection from haning from a telephone pole in Kabul.

There are major differences between Karzai and Najibullah.
Najibullah was head of KHAD before moving to the presidential palace, so he was personally involved in the conflict against the insurgency and was hated as such, he wouldn't leave Kabul when things started to fall apart. and thus paid a price for his stubbornness.
Karzai on the other hand has been a refuge before and I think would have no qualms about leaving Kabul as soon as things start to go belly up. He may even be trying to get a deal with the opposition and prolong his rule. But that has to be seen.
So the main point is two very different men, who have a very different approach.
 
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There are major differences between Karzai and Najibullah.
Najibullah was head of KHAD before moving to the presidential palace, so he was personally involved in the conflict against the insurgency and was hated as such, he wouldn't leave Kabul when things started to fall apart. and thus paid a price for his stubbornness.
Karzai on the other hand has been a refuge before and I think would have no qualms about leaving Kabul as soon as things start to go belly up. He may even be trying to get a deal with the opposition and prolong his rule. But that has to be seen.
So the main point is two very different men, who have a very different approach.

Look I want to wish long period of prosperity to AFghanistanis. I pray for their peace.

Khaled Hussaini's three novels are on my desk and I could not turn a page without wiping my eyes,

Afghanistanis have suffered so much for so long that it should be enough

The mantra should be "Peace at any cost"

That means no talk about trump cards

Because there are none.

AFghanistani masses have lost everything and their dignity for being under gora boots for so long that even the calendars have to be stretched beyond years and decades.


Please understand, Karazai should not play any tricks, Because we all can see them through and so do the Talibarbarian warlords in the region,


If Karazai is not hung like Najib

So what

All the Kabul ministries will be, if Gad forbid Tali-bitches get inside Kabul.


It is not about personalities

not about individuals

It is about Afghanistanis

yes Afghanistani women children old men and young boys

who will suffer and suffer immensely if Kabul ruling elite continues to play games,.
 
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Yes Afghanistan has suffered alot. And does need to have a better future. But that future should belong to Afghans, not an Afghanistan under the boot of foreigners.
And if some outside power wants to use Afghanistan for their own purposes they should be made to pay for it as well. So Karzai has every right to ask as many questions and ask for as much as is possible and more.

As far the Khaled Hosseini’s novels are concerned. Here's something for you to read.

Melodrama in the Service of Empire

“Smart Power” and the Afghanistan Novel

by PADMAJA CHALLAKERE

In the context of the much-talked about Afghan drawdown of 2013-14, it is relevant to consider the successful Afghanistan novel and the work it has done in waging the Afghanistan war. One could argue that the Afghanistan Novel is the ghost in this war machine. Novels like Khaled Hosseini’s The Kite-Runner (2003)and A Thousand Splendid Suns (2007)and the torrent of immensely popular “blue burqa” books like My Forbidden Face: Growing Up Under the Taliban (2002) and Behind the Burqa (2002) produce a televisual feeling for Afghanistan history which has influenced the form and content of literary novels like Nadeem Aslam’s A Wasted Vigil or Philip Hensher’s The Mulberry Empire.

But more fundamentally, the blockbuster Afghanistan novel has generated our support for and acquiescence to the long and bloody NATO war on Afghanistan. These novels provide the “narrative container” into which truth (figured as surplus) about Afghanistan’s war-torn history must be confined. The gestures that this container allows are, of course, predictably narrow in range: sensational narratives of violence (never ours), or a catastrophism which declares that Afghanistan is “the wall against which empires crash” or “the land where Empires go to die” (Philip Hensher’s The Mulberry Empire) or, the most sensational horrorism wherein the Afghan woman is brutally assaulted (Hosseini’s A Thousand Splendid Suns) or, narratives of self-exoneration or self-indemnity (Hosseini’s The Kite-Runner).

First and foremost, there is complete silence about the NATO war on Afghanistan in these novels and in memoirs like Asne Seierstad’s The Book-Seller of Kabul (2002) or, inthe now discredited Three Cups of Tea (2006) or, in Suraya Sadeed’s Forbidden Lessons in a Kabul Guesthoust (2011). The appeal of these texts and the positive reviews they garner lies in the way in which they produce affect by minimizing culpability and accountability. What is also missing in these books is the long history of US support for the most violent and reactionary Islamist mujahideen who now go under the banner of Northern Alliance, our current allies in the war against the Taliban.

Catastrophism is the aesthetic mode of these novels. It is not incidental that the recurring themes and preoccupations in the Afghanistan novel are fatedness and tragedy rather than responsibility or liability.”Tragedy” seems to encapsulate the very essence of Afghanistan. A quick Google search will reveal that no word appears in conjunction with Afghanistan more than the word “tragedy;” so, the shooting-rampage by Robert Bales which killed 17 Afghan civilians, 9 of whom were young children, is “tragic,” “the civilian casualties” from drone strikes is “tragic,” “the roadside bombs that kill 3 out of 4 American and British soldiers” is “tragic,” the abuse of foreign workers in military bases in Afghanistan is “tragic,” the “IED explosives causing brain injury to our soldiers is tragic,” the “44 year life-expectancy” and the millions exposed to hunger there is “tragic.” The events tagged “tragic” underscore the inevitability and hopelessness of our well-intentioned efforts suggesting that the catastrophic violence and destruction and death in Afghanistan is ‘tragic’ but not really ‘historically significant’.

The immense energy spent in transforming the “invasion of Afghanistan” into a narrative about “the Afghanistan tragedy” has its own political history, one which shows this war to be, to quote Chomsky, “the most doctrinal and the ideological war of our times.” This political history has to do not merely with differentiating between good violence (ours) and bad violence (theirs) but about producing new fictions of evil which offer a salve to those most deeply implicated in the violence in Afghanistan. The popular novels and memoirs have played a significant role not only in sensationalizing or selling violence but in licensing our aggression and recovering our innocence.

Two dominant features of this melodramatic genre can be most readily identified. The first is a Spielberg-like sensationalism as seen in the striking gratuitousness of the sexual violence to which Hassan is subjected in The Kite-Runner or in the physical and sexual violence to which Mariam and Laila are subjected in Hosseini’s A Thousand Splendid Suns. The second signature of this genre is, what Mark Seltzer in True Crime: Observations on Violence and Modernity, calls “traumatophilia” or “contemporary wound culture” narrated in the “neutral self observing the self” mode popularized by crime novels like The Talented Mr. Ripley. We see this dynamic between the narrator/protagonist Amir, of Khaled Hosseni’s novel The Kite-Runner and his victim/servant/friend: Hassan. Mark Seltzer in his analysis of popular media technology speaks of “a Ripley-like identification, and doubling to the point of taking the place of the other” which “entails an unremitting self-reflection bordering on what seems like self-violence.” But, as Seltzer observes, it is a mistake to understand this paradoxicality as self-examination, rather, it is its mode of operation:”

He [Hassan] had the blue kite in his hands; that was the first thing I saw. And I can’t lie now and say that my eyes didn’t scan it for any rips. His chapan had mud smudges down the front and his shirt was ripped just below the collar. He stopped. Swayed on his feet like he was going to collapse. Then he steadied himself. Handed me the kite . . . .Hassan dragged a sleeve across his face, wiped snot and tears. I waited for him to say something, but we just stood there in silence, in the fading light. I was grateful for the early-evening shadows that fell on Hassan’s gaze. Did he know I knew? And if he knew, then what would I see if I did look into his eyes? Blame? Indignation? Or, God forbid, what I feared most, guileless devotion? . . . . I thought he might burst into tears, but, to my relief, he didn’t, and I pretended I hadn’t seen or heard the crack in his voice. Just like I pretended I hadn’t seen the dark stain in the seat of his pants. Or those tiny drops that fell from between his legs and stained the snow black. (The Kite-Runner,78)

Here the narrator confesses that not only does he refuse to see Hassan’s condition but that he is selfish enough to check that the kite has no rips because that was the errand he had sent Hassan on. This looks like honesty, but this sleight of hand in “the neutral self observing the self mode” as Seltzer argues, is media technology long familiar to us from crime TV and Hollywood cinema—a trickery that has very little to do with self-distance and self-examination. This particular confession is, as they say, playing political hardball and winning! For all of our horror of what Amir does when he unprotestingly watches Hassan’s rape by his classmate Aseef, we (the readers) stand by Amir till the end. “Stand by Me” might have made a more honest title than Kite-Runner, as a friend suggested. The entire plot of this novel is carried out to sustain this one myth, that despite Amir’s silent collaboration with the rapists of Hassan, “he can be good again.” The myth of “reversibility”– or what the blurb on the cover of The Kite-Runner calls “redemption”– is at the heart of the novel’s appeal to its readers. The myth that our actions can be reversed and undone is not just the most conventional of norms, it is a myth that we are particularly addicted to in the neoliberal age.

The “new realism” of the middlebrow Afghanistan novel–its emotional logic and aesthetic form– bears examination not just as an insulting camouflage but because its silences and contortions have much to tell us about what Lauren Berlant in Cruel Optimismcalls “the affect of the political” or “the desire to skirt the political.” The bloated discourse about Taliban’s violence cloaks the violence of their predecessors, the Northern Alliance or the mujahideen warlords, who were armed to the teeth with truckloads of US weaponry and millions of dollars in the 1980s. These mujahedeen groups, the most reactionary and violent Islamic extremists, both anti-nationalist and dangerously anti-women, used religion as a form of brutal feudal authority and were responsible for the deadly civil war in Afghanistan between 1992 and 1996 in which 65,000 people died in Kabul alone. Oddly enough, the story of US collusion with reactionary Islamic forces is told in Hosseini’s A Thousand Splendid Suns, but it is placed in the mouth of a brutally violent man, and as in political TV, told in a way that reduces it to a caricature of itself.

The one exception is Malalai Joya’s memoir A Woman Among Warlords which reverses the truism about improving conditions of Afghan women as a result of the NATO war:

We are caught between two enemies: the Taliban on one side and US/NATO forces and their warlord hirelings on the other…. Obama’s military build-up will only bring more suffering and death to innocent civilians…. I hope that the lessons in this book will reach President Obama and his policymakers in Washington, and warn them that the people of Afghanistan reject their brutal occupation and their support of the warlords and drug-lords. (p. 5)

Where, she asks, is the much-touted “progress in the condition of the Afghan women” when it passes without notice among the US intelligentsia that the “U.S.-backed Afghan president Karzai signed a law which, among other horrors, allows men to deny food and housing to their wives if the husbands’ sexual demands are not met, and prohibits a woman from leaving her home without her husband’s permission.” And in plain speech, Joya’s memoir details the vast destruction brought on by the US invasion:

The people of Afghanistan are fed up with the occupation of their country and with the corrupt, Mafia-state of Hamid Karzai and the warlords and drug lords backed by NATO…. It is clear now that the real motive of the U.S. and its allies, hidden behind the so-called “war on terror,” was to convert Afghanistan into a military base in Central Asia . . . . But those who get their news from the corporate media may not realize that allied attacks on supposed al-Qaeda and Taliban targets are also killing, maiming, and terrorizing innocent Afghan civilians. We live everyday of our lives in the terror of an endless war. (196)

This is the kind of anchoring that is required in times like this when Suzanne Nossel, a former State Department Official (known for coining the term “Smart Power” which was adopted as Obama administration’s foreign-policy slogan) is now the Executive Director of PEN–the “world’s oldest literary and human rights organization.” Yes, “Smart power” has the right sound, both of homage and parody to absolute power, welded during the Obama administration through the expanded use of drones and of the CIA.

When Suzaane Nossel was at the helm of Amnesty International, this organization, known for opposing the Iraq War and the prison at Guantanamo Bay, was making common cause with the US government. Now that Nossel, hot on the heels of securing the passage of the Afghan Women and Girls Security Promotion Act of 2012, is getting ready to “promote literature and free expression,” we can surely expect a lot many more “redemptive” novels about the “Afghanistan tragedy.”

If Tarantino’s “Django Unchained” can be sold as “empowering for blacks” and as “healing the wounds of slavery,” by the same logic, the Afghanistan novel can make us feel good about the violence of our wars. For, supporting war today is not illiberal but rather most committedly liberal.

Padmaja Challakere lives in St. Paul, MN and teaches in the English Department at Metropolitan State University.

Look I want to wish long period of prosperity to AFghanistanis. I pray for their peace.

Khaled Hussaini's three novels are on my desk and I could not turn a page without wiping my eyes,

Afghanistanis have suffered so much for so long that it should be enough

The mantra should be "Peace at any cost"

That means no talk about trump cards

Because there are none.

AFghanistani masses have lost everything and their dignity for being under gora boots for so long that even the calendars have to be stretched beyond years and decades.


Please understand, Karazai should not play any tricks, Because we all can see them through and so do the Talibarbarian warlords in the region,


If Karazai is not hung like Najib

So what

All the Kabul ministries will be, if Gad forbid Tali-bitches get inside Kabul.


It is not about personalities

not about individuals

It is about Afghanistanis

yes Afghanistani women children old men and young boys

who will suffer and suffer immensely if Kabul ruling elite continues to play games,.
 
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#1------Yes Afghanistan has suffered alot. And does need to have a better future. But that future should belong to Afghans, not an Afghanistan under the boot of foreigners.



And if some outside power wants to use Afghanistan for their own purposes they should be made to pay for it as well. So Karzai has every right to ask as many questions and ask for as much as is possible and more.

#2---- As far the Khaled Hosseini’s novels are concerned. Here's something for you to read.

Melodrama in the Service of Empire

“Smart Power” and the Afghanistan Novel

by PADMAJA CHALLAKERE
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#1, many forget that Afghanistan is a sick child that will remain under the care of someone from outside for at least 20 years, This is the time to build its strengths and its insitutions. Until then "forign boots" is just a derogatory term used for an American "doctor" trying to rehabilitate the sick child.

Hope you don't consider this in a negative way. Because it is being said in fully sincerity.


#2 -- Don't care much about Padmaja. He/she is nitpicking on NATO. Anyone remotely studied about Afghanistan's sad history must realize that NATO is just part of a long list of foreign groups in Afghanistan and nothing new.

this is not the time about creating anti-foreign hysteria. Because this will only increase misery for Afghanistanis.
 
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#1, many forget that Afghanistan is a sick child that will remain under the care of someone from outside for at least 20 years, This is the time to build its strengths and its insitutions. Until then "forign boots" is just a derogatory term used for an American "doctor" trying to rehabilitate the sick child.

Hope you don't consider this in a negative way. Because it is being said in fully sincerity.

Some people tend to forget that it is because of this very doctor that the child is lying on the sick bed.
Are we supposed to forget about "this is our opportunity of giving USSR their Vietnam"?
Which made Afghanistan the sick child it is today.
 
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Some people tend to forget that it is because of this very doctor that the child is lying on the sick bed.
Are we supposed to forget about "this is our opportunity of giving USSR their Vietnam"?
Which made Afghanistan the sick child it is today.

You lay naked in the middle of street

Then someone is bound to come "check" you out.

Afghanistanis decided to invite Commies (not Pakistan or India or Sierra Leon)
Then
Other Afghanistanis decide to launch militancy against commies (not Pakistan or India or Sierra Leon)

Please learn a bit before showing your ignorance.

Thank you
 
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You lay naked in the middle of street

Then someone is bound to come "check" you out.

Afghanistanis decided to invite Commies (not Pakistan or India or Sierra Leon)
Then
Other Afghanistanis decide to launch militancy against commies (not Pakistan or India or Sierra Leon)

Please learn a bit before showing your ignorance.

Thank you
Right, so if I don't agree with you, I am ignorant. Nice logic mate.

I gave you a quote from an American, as you were trying to be their advocate for them.
Don't drag Pakistan, India and Sierra Leon in to it.
Thanks
 
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Right, so if I don't agree with you, I am ignorant. Nice logic mate.

I gave you a quote from an American, as you were trying to be their advocate for them.
Don't drag Pakistan, India and Sierra Leon in to it.
Thanks

Since when Americans have beome Afghanistanis?

Since when Americans invited Commies into Afghanistan?

you want to jump to the front of line with your odd quotations. Not going to work,
 
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Since when Americans have beome Afghanistanis?

Since when Americans invited Commies into Afghanistan?

you want to jump to the front of line with your odd quotations. Not going to work,
Right, I think your memory has gone rusty. Here's something to refresh it. Enjoy.


The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan

Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski,
President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser

Le Nouvel Observateur, Paris, 15-21 January 1998
Posted at globalresearch.ca 15 October 2001

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?


B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?


Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.
CRG -- The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan
 
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