What's new

Afghan general warns over delay in signing US pact

RescueRanger

PDF THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Joined
Sep 20, 2008
Messages
16,370
Reaction score
244
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
_71908025_020276484-1.jpg

The US military is preparing to pull out most of its troops next year

A top Afghan general has said his country may be dangerously exposed if a security pact with the US on its military withdrawal is not signed soon.

Washington insists on a 31 December deadline for President Hamid Karzai to sign the pact, which sets the terms for US troops to stay on past 2014.

Mr Karzai wants to wait until after he leaves office next year.

But the head of ground forces, Lt Gen Murad Ali Murad, told the BBC the army would struggle without US support.


Analysis
_52550869_52550868.jpg
Karen AllenBBC News, Kabul
Although this may appear to be a simple diplomatic spat, senior Afghan commanders clearly appreciate the military consequences of no deal and the prospect of an American withdrawal altogether.

While Mr Karzai's position is that he will not recognise deadlines imposed by the US, a growing number of voices inside the country are calling for the Bilateral Security Pact to be signed as soon as possible.

Mr Karzai may fear the legacy of becoming the president who invited foreigners into a country that has been trampled on in the past but the reverse may also be chilling. That is to say, being remembered as a leader who allowed foreign troops to withdraw, taking with them billions of dollars of aid to help build Afghanistan's own security forces.

Most Nato-led foreign combat forces in Afghanistan are due to leave next year, as combat operations are declared to be over.

However, the pact could see 15,000 foreign soldiers remaining, primarily as trainers and mentors for the Afghans, but also to conduct "counter-terror operations".

After months of negotiation, the pact, known officially as the Bilateral Security Agreement, was endorsed at a national gathering (Loya Jirga) of Afghan elders in Kabul last month.

Mr Karzai, who has served two terms as Afghanistan's first and only president since the Taliban were ousted from power in 2001, is obliged by law to stand down after elections in April.

'Negotiation is over'
"Without the foreign forces we will have challenges and problems when it comes to the equipping and training of the Afghan national army," Lt Gen Murad Ali Murad said.

"We don't share the view that Afghanistan will slip back into civil war but we need more support and resources so we can deal with the threat posed by the insurgents especially during elections. We need air support and transport."

Mr Karzai, who is believed to be seeking more assurances from the US in the face of continuing Taliban violence, has said he will not allow a continued foreign presence if it means "more bombs and killings" of civilians.

He resisted pressure in November from the Loya Jirga, an assembly of around 2,500 Afghan elders and notables, to sign the pact.

Security pact - main points
  • Jurisdiction: US forces remaining after 2014 reportedly to receive immunity from Afghan courts
  • Sovereignty: In October 2013 President Karzai appeared to have secured US agreement not to carry out attacks on Afghan soil without first consulting the Afghan authorities
  • Security: The US in October 2013 said that it would not protect Afghanistan from external attack because it could get mired in a war with Pakistan
Last month, he reacted to a US air strike which killed a small child and injured two women in Helmand province by saying "American forces have no respect for Afghan lives".

White House press secretary Jay Carney told BBC News in a statement: "We cannot, as has been suggested, wait for further developments in Afghanistan.

"This was negotiated in good faith; the negotiation is over. It can either be signed or not signed, and we believe the message is clear, emanating from Washington and from our representatives in Kabul, that it's time to sign this agreement."

The Nato-led international peacekeeping force (Isaf) handed security for the whole country over to Afghan forces earlier this year but some 97,000 soldiers remain, of whom some 68,000 are Americans.

Nato began separate talks with the Afghan government on Saturday about its presence after 2014 but it is also hamstrung by the delay over the pact.

_71908027_020422043-1.jpg
German Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen met troops in Mazar-e-Sharif on Sunday.
_71908029_020421849-1.jpg
Ms von der Leyen visited a memorial to dead German soldiers in Camp Marmal.
_71908031_020422677-2.jpg
She saw German Dingo armoured vehicles ready to be withdrawn from the country.
Nato Secretary General Andres Fogh Rasmussen welcomed the talks but stressed "that the Nato Status of Forces Agreement will not be concluded or signed until the signature of the Bilateral Security Agreement".

Germany's new Defence Minister, Ursula von der Leyen, who is visiting troops in the north Afghan city of Mazar-e-Sharif, echoed his concern.

"It's important to us that we have a secure legal framework," she said. "The Isaf mission is coming to an end but an enormous amount has been achieved here and we want to protect that."

BBC News - Afghan general warns over delay in signing US pact
 
It doesnt matter if US leaves , INDIA will be there to help its hindu brothers in afghanistan , super power india will provide afghanistan that which america could not
 
Afghanistan should Invite indian armed forces to Afghanistan and if possible iran aswell and this should be put as a condition for signing the BSA.
 
It doesnt matter if US leaves , INDIA will be there to help its hindu brothers in afghanistan , super power india will provide afghanistan that which america could not
I give it one season... :P

Afghanistan should Invite indian armed forces to Afghanistan and if possible iran aswell and this should be put as a condition for signing the BSA.
The Americans would kill Karzai bahi if such a proposal was made... They are not so foolish :P
 
But Don't you think it would be better for us?

We can play the anti India card by taliban's in kashmir?

It's not just about us, it's more about the International community and their long term objectives for Afg and that plan does not include Iran not even in the long term. Besides Karzai has expended what little good will he had remaining at Capitol Hill, Washington and at the Pentagon.
 
It's not just about us, it's more about the International community and their long term objectives for Afg and that plan does not include Iran not even in the long term. Besides Karzai has expended what little good will he had remaining at Capitol Hill, Washington and at the Pentagon.

The Problem is Afghanistan or its people are not getting that USA is not as much honest with them as much they think.

And on top of that they also hate Pakistan and Now they even hate Iran

Though i believe the BSA will be signed now or after 6 months.America is not willing to complete pull out by any condition.
They had given the right to Afghan govt/Jirga because they thought they will sign the agreement or surrender to whatever the NATO/America will dictate but they were wrong though they are not pulling out at any cost
 
The Problem is Afghanistan or its people are not getting that USA is not as much honest with them as much they think.

And on top of that they also hate Pakistan and Now they even hate Iran

Though i believe the BSA will be signed now or after 6 months.America is not willing to complete pull out by any condition.
They had given the right to Afghan govt/Jirga because they thought they will sign the agreement or surrender to whatever the NATO/America will dictate but they were wrong though they are not pulling out at any cost

The US has invested 638 Billion in Afghanistan and a further 130 billion is marked for 13-15 defence aid... OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO DICTATE TERMS.
 
The US has invested 638 Billion in Afghanistan and a further 130 billion is marked for 13-15 defence aid... OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO DICTATE TERMS.

Indeed,

So its better for the Afghan govt to sign it as soon as possible because america by any mean will want it to be signed.

Though the initial news like obama apologize to afghanistan related news were quiet funny.
 
Indeed,

So its better for the Afghan govt to sign it as soon as possible because america by any mean will want it to be signed.

Though the initial news like obama apologize to afghanistan related news were quiet funny.
The Americans will stay no matter what.

For some weeks ago, US officials including Obama said that if the deal was not signed 3 weeks after the Loya Jirga decision, they would leave Afghanistan after 2014 and take their aid with them.

Today, when 3 weeks has passed long ago, Obama went out for some time ago and said, that the US might wait to Karzais successor.

The American interest in Afghanistan is huge, and i don't somehow like it.
 

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom