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Rahmatullah Nabil, the NDS chief, refused to sign the memorandum of understanding with Pakistan’s ISI.


An unprecedented attempt to improve cooperation between Afghan and Pakistani spies has caused uproar in Afghanistan, where politicians and the media accused the government of selling out to a mortal enemy.

Pakistan’s army confirmed the two countries’ security agencies signed a memorandum of understanding last week in which Pakistan will help train and equip Afghan intelligence officers, take part in the interrogation of terror suspects and conduct joint operations.

It is an astonishing step for Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security (NDS), which has long accused its opposite numbers at the Pakistani military’s Inter-Services Intelligence directorate (ISI) of practically directing the Taliban insurgency.

It is also the most dramatic gesture yet by Ashraf Ghani, the Afghan president who came to power last year determined to win Islamabad’s help in brokering peace talks with the Taliban by offering concessions that would have been unthinkable under his predecessor, Hamid Karzai.

Ghani has upset hawks by sending Afghan cadets for training at Pakistan’s officer academy and diverting scarce military resources to fight Pakistani militants hiding in Afghanistan. Even his November 2014 visit to the office of Pakistan’s army chief in the garrison city of Rawalpindi was seen by some as an affront to national pride.There are signs Ghani’s strategy is paying off, with Taliban and Afghan representatives meeting for informal talks in Qatar this month. Last week, Pakistan’s prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, travelled to Kabul to deliver an unprecedented public rebuke to the Taliban, which is engaged in a brutal summer campaign of violence.

But with the number of attacks soaring, the diplomatic achievements have not been enough to appease Ghani’s critics. On Monday, a senior member of the Afghan parliament ordered the international relations committee to summon NDS officials for a grilling over the intelligence-sharing deal.The immediate backlash highlights the difficult balance Ghani has to strike between pushing for peace and sustaining public support for his government. “We all know these daily attacks, the suicide bombers, the terrorists are coming from Pakistan,” said Haroun Mir, a Kabul analyst. “Suddenly we want to share something we don’t share with very close allies with a government we blame for every single attack.”

Highlighting its extreme sensitivity, the Afghan government did not formally announce the intelligence-sharing deal and denied that Pakistan will train and equip Afghan officers. Leaks to the Afghan media said that the NDS chief, Rahmatullah Nabil, was against the move.

The memorandum of understanding was signed by a deputy NDS director general after Nabil refused to sign, said Davood Moradian, a Kabul-based analyst and ex-aide to Afghanistan’s former national security adviser.

“This was an initiative proposed by the British but the NDS chief refused to sign it despite enormous pressure,” Moradian said. “It has not only heavily damaged morale within NDS but further damaged the credibility of Ghani and the national unity government.”

Following the uproar, Ajmal Obaid Abidy, spokesman for Ghani, attempted to play down its significance, saying other memorandums had been signed with the ISI in the past, but he did not say what areas they covered.

Opponents of Ghani’s strategy say Nabil and other top intelligence officials have been sidelined by the president and Hanif Atmar, his national security adviser.

One former Karzai-era official said many in Kabul were shocked to learn that Nabil was excluded from at least one key meeting between Ghani and the ISI chief, Rizwan Akhtar in the last year.Pakistan has long-pushed for Nabil to be sacked after it emerged the NDS under his watch attempted to recruit Latif Mehsud, then the second most important commander in the Pakistani Taliban, as an intelligence source.

Nabil later said the operation to cultivate Mehsud was a bid “to send a message to Pakistan that if they can do this, we also can do it.”

Pakistan insists it is trying to push the Taliban – a movement it helped to power in the mid-1990s and continued to support after 2001 – towards a peaceful resolution of the conflict.

“Unfortunately there is a group [in the NDS] who do not want us to move forward,” said a Pakistani intelligence official. “They have benefited from all the money that has come to this region and they are not interested in peace.”

Amrullah Saleh, the NDS director general from 2004 to 2010, said he would have been ashamed to sign such an agreement and predicted staunch opposition to it.

“I think a lot of us consider this a betrayal and a dishonouring of the sacrifices of our defence forces,” he said. “I never negotiated from a position of weakness. I always asked Pakistan to first stop terror, then ask Afghanistan to cooperate.”


Afghan backlash over security deal with Pakistan | World news | The Guardian
 
That guy Nabil actually cares and loves his country. Funny how Pakistan demanded his removal. The one guy ready and willing to give Pakistan a does of its own medicine. Further, take a closer f-king look at the BRITISH here:



“This was an initiative proposed by the British but the NDS chief refused to sign it despite enormous pressure,” Moradian said. “It has not only heavily damaged morale within NDS but further damaged the credibility of Ghani and the national unity government.”



The British have never left these lands alone. They still continue to meddle in the affairs of sovereign nations. Nehru was a stool pigeon for the British. Look at how and why Netaji was killed.

The British supporting Pakistan and the Taliban is clearly against Indian interests. So why the f-k do we stil continue to pretend we are best friends. Clueless Indian brothers wake up...



 
Seriously man Ghani taking his country to a new low . Poor soldiers they must feel down now . The very force they are fighting will influence them directly and indirectly . No one will rise amid Taliban fear
 
Seriously man Ghani taking his country to a new low . Poor soldiers they must feel down now . The very force they are fighting will influence them directly and indirectly . No one will rise amid Taliban fear




Ghani was approved by the West. His daughter lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. What does the US gain from having placing him at the helm?


Seems the West is completely centered on f-king up Iran. They know Iran is the only serious contender that can thwart their efforts in the Middle East. Every other muslim country is in their pocket.
 
A stable and prosperous Afghanistan is in Pakistans interest !

It's time we both (Pak and Afghan) to burry the hatchets and embrace eachother as brothers... Fuk the bad blood and help eachother wipe scum from our lands!
 
A stable and prosperous Afghanistan is in Pakistans interest !

It's time we both (Pak and Afghan) to burry the hatchets and embrace eachother as brothers... Fuk the bad blood and help eachother wipe scum from our lands!
Its soilder in the end who decide liked NDS cheif reacted.
 
This NDS man can go to Delhi and rent a villa on Akbar road or Prithviraj road.
 
Fool nds cheif is cheif of the intelligence of Afghanistan he refused it and he is not india

You should show your afghan friends that you are their real ally and not just looking for ways to needle Pakistan by using them , help them out in Kunduz rather than blowing farts about an intelligence co-operation deal between Pakistan and Afghanistan
 
You should show your afghan friends that you are their real ally and not just looking for ways to needle Pakistan by using them , help them out in Kunduz rather than blowing farts about an intelligence co-operation deal between Pakistan and Afghanistan
it will do no impact at all, everybody know CIA is real king in Afghanistan even raw have to take order's from them we work on their intel even we are not real player in Afghanistan like you always make noise about it,and you know this.
 
Karzai and his clan are a bunch of propped up crooks. Anyone siding with them can't possibly be a friend of Afghanistan.
 
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Good for them ! I would respect the outcome ..:)




Why are you getting so butthurt ?:lol:

No one is Butthurt

Pakistan has long-pushed for Nabil to be sacked after it emerged the NDS under his watch attempted to recruit Latif Mehsud, then the second most important commander in the Pakistani Taliban, as an intelligence source.

We are amazed with the fighting spirit of Pakistan against Bad terrorists

Karzai and his clan are a bunch of propped up crooks. Anyone siding with them can't possibly be a friend of Afghanistan.

Ya may be everyone should side with Ghani who is hell bent in Selling his country to another country which is hell bentto destroy his own .


This was an initiative proposed by the British but the NDS chief refused to sign it despite enormous pressure,” Moradian said. “It has not only heavily damaged morale within NDS but further damaged the credibility of Ghani and the national unity government.”
 
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Rahmatullah Nabil, the NDS chief, refused to sign the memorandum of understanding with Pakistan’s ISI.


An unprecedented attempt to improve cooperation between Afghan and Pakistani spies has caused uproar in Afghanistan, where politicians and the media accused the government of selling out to a mortal enemy.

Pakistan’s army confirmed the two countries’ security agencies signed a memorandum of understanding last week in which Pakistan will help train and equip Afghan intelligence officers, take part in the interrogation of terror suspects and conduct joint operations.

It is an astonishing step for Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security (NDS), which has long accused its opposite numbers at the Pakistani military’s Inter-Services Intelligence directorate (ISI) of practically directing the Taliban insurgency.

It is also the most dramatic gesture yet by Ashraf Ghani, the Afghan president who came to power last year determined to win Islamabad’s help in brokering peace talks with the Taliban by offering concessions that would have been unthinkable under his predecessor, Hamid Karzai.

Ghani has upset hawks by sending Afghan cadets for training at Pakistan’s officer academy and diverting scarce military resources to fight Pakistani militants hiding in Afghanistan. Even his November 2014 visit to the office of Pakistan’s army chief in the garrison city of Rawalpindi was seen by some as an affront to national pride.There are signs Ghani’s strategy is paying off, with Taliban and Afghan representatives meeting for informal talks in Qatar this month. Last week, Pakistan’s prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, travelled to Kabul to deliver an unprecedented public rebuke to the Taliban, which is engaged in a brutal summer campaign of violence.

But with the number of attacks soaring, the diplomatic achievements have not been enough to appease Ghani’s critics. On Monday, a senior member of the Afghan parliament ordered the international relations committee to summon NDS officials for a grilling over the intelligence-sharing deal.The immediate backlash highlights the difficult balance Ghani has to strike between pushing for peace and sustaining public support for his government. “We all know these daily attacks, the suicide bombers, the terrorists are coming from Pakistan,” said Haroun Mir, a Kabul analyst. “Suddenly we want to share something we don’t share with very close allies with a government we blame for every single attack.”

Highlighting its extreme sensitivity, the Afghan government did not formally announce the intelligence-sharing deal and denied that Pakistan will train and equip Afghan officers. Leaks to the Afghan media said that the NDS chief, Rahmatullah Nabil, was against the move.

The memorandum of understanding was signed by a deputy NDS director general after Nabil refused to sign, said Davood Moradian, a Kabul-based analyst and ex-aide to Afghanistan’s former national security adviser.

“This was an initiative proposed by the British but the NDS chief refused to sign it despite enormous pressure,” Moradian said. “It has not only heavily damaged morale within NDS but further damaged the credibility of Ghani and the national unity government.”

Following the uproar, Ajmal Obaid Abidy, spokesman for Ghani, attempted to play down its significance, saying other memorandums had been signed with the ISI in the past, but he did not say what areas they covered.

Opponents of Ghani’s strategy say Nabil and other top intelligence officials have been sidelined by the president and Hanif Atmar, his national security adviser.

One former Karzai-era official said many in Kabul were shocked to learn that Nabil was excluded from at least one key meeting between Ghani and the ISI chief, Rizwan Akhtar in the last year.Pakistan has long-pushed for Nabil to be sacked after it emerged the NDS under his watch attempted to recruit Latif Mehsud, then the second most important commander in the Pakistani Taliban, as an intelligence source.

Nabil later said the operation to cultivate Mehsud was a bid “to send a message to Pakistan that if they can do this, we also can do it.”

Pakistan insists it is trying to push the Taliban – a movement it helped to power in the mid-1990s and continued to support after 2001 – towards a peaceful resolution of the conflict.

“Unfortunately there is a group [in the NDS] who do not want us to move forward,” said a Pakistani intelligence official. “They have benefited from all the money that has come to this region and they are not interested in peace.”

Amrullah Saleh, the NDS director general from 2004 to 2010, said he would have been ashamed to sign such an agreement and predicted staunch opposition to it.

“I think a lot of us consider this a betrayal and a dishonouring of the sacrifices of our defence forces,” he said. “I never negotiated from a position of weakness. I always asked Pakistan to first stop terror, then ask Afghanistan to cooperate.”


Afghan backlash over security deal with Pakistan | World news | The Guardian
Enemies of Pakistan are butthurt on Pakistan victories both on military as well as diplomatic fronts. They can cry as much as they want, but Pakistan will rise and win.
 
No one is Butthurt

Pakistan has long-pushed for Nabil to be sacked after it emerged the NDS under his watch attempted to recruit Latif Mehsud, then the second most important commander in the Pakistani Taliban, as an intelligence source.

We are amazed with the fighting spirit of Pakistan against Bad terrorists



Ya may be everyone should side with Ghani who is hell bent in Selling his country to another country which is hell bentto destroy his own .


This was an initiative proposed by the British but the NDS chief refused to sign it despite enormous pressure,” Moradian said. “It has not only heavily damaged morale within NDS but further damaged the credibility of Ghani and the national unity government.”

Dayum ! We must have some real awesome influence in this country that we are literally tellin them to fire their own "elite"...:lol:

Arsses on fire! :lol:
 

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