AfD loose in Germany

[Georg]

Today published vote survey.
The AfD has lost 2% compared to last survey...

CDU 31% +1% (center)
SPD 16% -1% (center/left)
Grüne 15% -1% (environmental Protection)
AfD 14% -2% (right)
Linke 10% +2% (left)
FDP 9% +1% (liberal)

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten...rt-in-der-waehlergunst-die-linke-legt-zu.html

 

[xenon54 out]

They tried to establish themselves as an alternative but the more time passed the more their true face came to light, not surprised by the results, they might be forgotten in a couple years.

 

[Georg]

They tried to establish themselves as an alternative but the more time passed the more their true face came to light, not surprised by the results, they might be forgotten in a couple years.

their real problem is they have no program.... they are only against migrants

 

[Tshering22]

their real problem is they have no program.... they are only against migrants

That is exactly the problem with nationalist or culturist groups around the world. They only highlight the conflict part of it. They fail to highlight what they will do once they resolve that. And that is something people are equally concerned about. Economy, healthcare, jobs, education, public safety, infrastructure, wealth creation, foreign engagements, government processes etc.

AfD is facing a classic vacuum of developing a rational-yet-strong framework which can accommodate all of this, and also, their own objective of addressing their core votebank's concerns.

 

[OguzSenturk]

Germany needs secularism ASAP. What kind of sick mind puts religion names in political party names and then claims to be secular at the same time?

 

[Georg]

Germany needs secularism ASAP. What kind of sick mind puts religion names in political party names and then claims to be secular at the same time?

what party has the name of a religion in its name?

CDU Christlich Demokratische Union? Christiany are three different main religions not one... catholic, protestant and orthodox...

and btw u know nothing about Germany and german politic and how the state work...

in Germany religion and government are strictly seperatet, religion has no influence on politic...and politic has no influence on religion.

The CDU is open for members of all religions... christianity is only the ideal picture how human should behavoir and that what the party main goal is. 51% of the members are catholic, 33.3% are protestant and 17% are from a other religion.


Main solgan of the CDU...

Die CDU ist für jeden offen, der Würde, Freiheit und Gleichheit aller Menschen anerkennt!
The CDU is open to anyone who recognizes the dignity, freedom and equality of all people!

To choose the name Christlich in 1945 as the party was founded, was wisely choose to overcome the differents and seperation in Germany between chatolics (mainly worker in Rheinland) and protestants (aristocrats from Prussia).

You know that the CDU has muslim members with a "Türkischen Forum der CDU" lead by a muslim CDU member, Bülent Arslan. Born in Turkey raised in Germany, german citizen since he is 22yo.

His words...
"Und wenn man sich die Werte ansieht, die im CDU-Grundsatzprogramm enthalten sind, dann sind das alles Werte, die man als aufgeklärter Muslim auch im Islam wieder finden kann: Gerechtigkeit, Freiheit, die Bedeutung der Familie beispielsweise, und ich denke, dass ich da nicht zu einer Ausnahme in Deutschland gehöre."
"And if you look at the values that are included in the CDU program, then these are all values that can be found as an enlightened Muslim in Islam again: justice, freedom, the importance of the family, for example, and I think that I do not belong to an exception in Germany.

in 2009 the CDU had 2000 muslim members....

inform yourself befor spreading hate with FAKE news

 

[OguzSenturk]

You really cannot justify religious fascism here, What the heck is "Christian XYZ party"? lmao it's like they are from 15th century. Even in Turkey, if someone dare to open one "Islamic XYZ party", oh my god.. The backleash would be huuuuge.

Germany should immediately declare secularism and close these religious maniacs from politics, permanently. We are in 2018 for science's sake.