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Abu Hamza silent on ISI role in Mumbai attacks

By Aditi Phadnis
Published: July 3, 2012


NEW DELHI:
The arrest of the mastermind behind the Mumbai attacks, Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Hamza alias Abu Jundal, has sparked tensions between India’s Intelligence Bureau (IB) and Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) over the question of who coordinates his arrest.

The electrician who went on to become one of the most wanted terrorists in India was arrested at the Indira Gandhi International Airport – according to senior officials, the entire operation to track down Hamza was coordinated by the IB. Officials also say that Hamza arrived on a commercial flight and not on a special flight arranged by RAW.

Meanwhile, the IB has gotten to work on extracting as much information from the terrorist as possible on his role in the Laskhar-e-Taiba (LeT) network and the alleged involvement of Pakistani state actors in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, in which 166 people were killed.

Investigators have elaborated that though Hamza has admitted that he had a role in the Mumbai attacks and acknowledged that he was constantly talking to terrorists during the attack, he has not volunteered information about the involvement of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

“We have matched his voice sample from the recorded conversation during the Mumbai attack. Although he is talking about his role in giving Hindi lessons to terrorists and also identifying places in Mumbai, he is not ready to give information about the involvement of ISI in the attack,” said a senior officer. Investigators are also finding it difficult to get information on LeT sleeper cells present in India.

Senior officials elaborated that Ansari was a hardened terrorist whose main job was to identify and indoctrinate recruits.

Ansari also told investigators that he was initially given the code name Abu Hamza and it was later changed to Abu Jundal in 2008, because his LeT handlers didn’t want him to be identified during the investigations into the Mumbai attacks.

During the course of interrogation, Hamza also identified the people whose voice was recorded by intelligence agencies during the attack. Hamza told the investigators that around 8-10 people were present in a safe house in Karachi, which acted like a control room during the attack.

The wanted terrorist has also confessed that not all the ‘handlers’ were present at the control room at the same time.

Investigators believe that the terrorist mastermind joined the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) at the behest of a school senior after the 2002 riots in Gujarat. After completing the initial process of indoctrination, Hamza was sent to Kashmir for training in small arms.

Intelligence agencies had first found Hamza to be involved in suspicious activities during the investigation into an attack on the Indian Institute of Science (IISC) in 2005. Even though Hamza managed to avoid getting arrested, his name came up again when Mumbai police recovered weapons from Aurangabad in 2006.

Senior officials said that Ansari has also confessed to helping LeT recruits plant seven bombs in Mumbai in July 2007, which was the first major coordination between LeT and the Indian Mujahideen (IM).

Even though Ansari was wanted by several police organisations, he has managed to enter India twice between 2006 and 2007 through Bangladesh and Nepal.

Ajmal Kasab, also accused in the Mumbai attacks, had identified Hamza’s voice earlier in recorded conversations for investigators. Kasab told the investigators that Hamza was closely involved in the training. Hamza also taught Hindi to the 10 Pakistani nationals involved in the Mumbai attacks. The two Hindi classes took place just days before the attack. Hamza is a resident of Beed, in Maharashtra state.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 3rd, 2012.

Abu Hamza silent on ISI role in Mumbai attacks – The Express Tribune

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So what happened to the earlier stories of 'Nailed ISI involvement in Mumbai Attacks'?

A whole bunch of lies by the Indian media?
 
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Yes, only there is one country, one media in this World which always speak true i.e. NA Pakistan :coffee:
 
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So what happened to the earlier stories of 'Nailed ISI involvement in Mumbai Attacks'?

A whole bunch of lies by the Indian media?

I have no Idea how u came up with the conclusion....but people all over have different scales of integrity towards there cause...and so do terrorists and there facilitators.

Abu hamza will sing, in due time...we have really great singing tutors here.


As for the involvement of ISI , Pakistanis is just in denial mode, but if u still don't see the amount of evil pent up inside ur establishments ,then no one can save u from yourself.
 
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I have no Idea how u came up with the conclusion....but people all over have different scales of integrity towards there cause...and so do terrorists and there facilitators.

Abu hamza will sing, in due time...we have really great singing tutors here.


As for the involvement of ISI , Pakistanis is just in denial mode, but if u still don't see the amount of evil pent up inside ur establishments ,then no one can save u from yourself.

Than start removing your assets from Afghanistan who are hurting Pakistan constantly.
 
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Yes, only there is one country, one media in this World which always speak true i.e. NA Pakistan :coffee:

I have no Idea how u came up with the conclusion....but people all over have different scales of integrity towards there cause...and so do terrorists and there facilitators.

Abu hamza will sing, in due time...we have really great singing tutors here.

As for the involvement of ISI , Pakistanis is just in denial mode, but if u still don't see the amount of evil pent up inside ur establishments ,then no one can save u from yourself.

Please see your own media's statements as well:

"Jundal, who was among those directing the attackers, including lone surviving terrorist Ajmal Kasab, told interrogators that though he could not identify the ISI officers by name and rank, their appearance and authoritative conduct clearly indicated that they were from the intelligence agency, sources told HT."

'2 men in control room looked like ISI officers' - Hindustan Times

See the highlighted part - basically there is nothing to suggest ISI involvement other than outlandish speculation, yet the Indian media and GoI are hysterically ranting and raving about having 'Proved ISI/Pakistani State involvement in the Mumbai attacks'.
 
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he could not identify because he needs more beating....

What will you say about Pakistani passport....
 
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What will you say about Pakistani passport....

There is nothing to say unless you somehow want to suggest that the Abu Hamza is the only individual to every obtain a forged Pakistani passport or a Pakistani passport based on falsified data.

The hysteria over the passport is nothing but more 'clutching at straws' by the GoI and Indian media.
 
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This man handed over to India because of American DEMAND .... to Saudi Govt.... to pressurize Pakistan Simple!
 
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This man handed over to India because of American DEMAND .... to Saudi Govt.... to pressurize Pakistan Simple!

The implication of above being. Abu Hamza's connections to Pakistan and the role he played in 26/11 attacks some how embarrasses Pakistan.
I mean the only reason the Pakistani govt would feel pressurized by handing of over Abu Hamza to Indian authorities, would be if his testimony would be implicating it in 26/11 attacks.
 
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There is nothing to say unless you somehow want to suggest that the Abu Hamza is the only individual to every obtain a forged Pakistani passport or a Pakistani passport based on falsified data.

The hysteria over the passport is nothing but more 'clutching at straws' by the GoI and Indian media.


A flawed argument.
There are two developments which took place in past few months, which when viewed together, preclude the above line of argument.


1) Abu Hamza has Pakistani passport.

2) Pakistan lobbying with Saudi intelligence agencies to stop Jundal being sent to India.
Pakistan wanted that Jundal should be handed over to them, claiming that he was a Pakistani national.

Pakistan tried to save Jundal | The Asian Age


Now if Abu Hamza had indeed forged a Pakistani passport and Pakistan govt did not have any information of the above , why did Pakistani govt try to sop his extradition to Indian by claiming, that he was a Pakistani citizen?
 
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Haha... There is no ISI involvement! Indians like to blame everything on ISI. Abu Hamza has seen what IA does in Kashmir, so he wanted to harm the Indian state the same way IA harms people in Kashmir!

Moral of the story : What you sow, shall you reap.
 
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Haha... There is no ISI involvement! Indians like to blame everything on ISI. Abu Hamza has seen what IA does in Kashmir, so he wanted to harm the Indian state the same way IA harms people in Kashmir!

Moral of the story : What you sow, shall you reap.

Judging from what you guys have been reaping for past 3-4 yrs, you guys must be doing some real 'sick $hit' to your people in the west...what say??
 
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so much of frustration Indianos............


Btw i didnt get one thing where the hell these orange media journaloosss are getting all this news from coz I see everyday Abu jundal said this ,abujundal said that........... damn its an investigation and they dont give information out of media like this.


I think all of this is just for indianos consumption it has nothing to do with the real investigation.

ps: Indians should open their eyes other than jumping on band wagon and pointing fingers toward Pakistan.There are other parties invovled in that attack. If u are serious abt the result they should get Mr Hardely back in indian investigation and i think u will know the truth............. Pakistan has nothing to do with any of this .Nor were we involve in all this mess........

Some third party (I guess we all know who) is trying to take advantage of our enmity.

If u indianooss want to keep ur eyes closed and want to believe what orange media tell u then be my guest keep making wild accusation it really doesnt matter..............
 
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