A Quad-plus-6 Indo-Pacific strategy ( Quad+6 involves Vietnam, Indonesia, Taiwan, Singapore, France & the UK)

[CAPRICORN-88]

I am just wondering why is the Biden Administration appearing to be so desperate nowadays esp. after the meeting in Anchorage, Alaska?

Let's not forget ASEAN and EU biggest trade partner is China not USA.

British Naval HMS QE2 Aircraft Carrier is supposed to sail thru'your South China Sea and Strait of Taiwan has suddenly aborted its mission.

 

[Zarvan]

Vietnam for sure will join QUAD. Also will South Korea. China seriously needs to rethink its strategy in South China sea region.

 

[AViet]

Vietnam for sure will join QUAD. Also will South Korea. China seriously needs to rethink its strategy in South China sea region.

Never.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Yes. ASEAN will never joined the QUAD.

These nations are mentioned and used for the sake of US propaganda.

 

[khansaheeb]

Unlikely

The chinese usually stick to their word.

If sleepy pushes them too far he will trigger nuclear war.

Why go nuclear when both countries are doing good in the "economic and standard of living" sense for their people and destroy whatever they have achieved? In the world of the titans there is a lot of posturing and rarely blows as they know the consequences can be devastating. There is a stark difference between movies/TV and reality and it is easier to bark than bite. Other than war through proxies the USSR and the Western world never went to war directly as both were aware of the consequences. A long drawn out chess game was played out and that's all it was. However the US did deal with the Soviet poodles after the collapse of the Soviet Union: Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria Yugoslavia etc

 

[Jobless Jack]

Why go nuclear when both countries are doing good in the "economic and standard of living" sense for their people and destroy whatever they have achieved? Inn the world of the titans there is a lot of posturing and rarely blows as they know the consequences can be devastating. There is a stark difference between movies/TV and reality and it is easy to bark than bite. Other than war through proxies the USSR and the Western world never went to war directly as both were aware of the consequences. A long drawn out chess game was played out and that's all it was. However the US did deal with the Soviet poodles after the collapse of the Soviet Union: Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria Yugoslavia etc

Hey I hope you are correct

But the thing is that everyone is well aware of what happened to Iraq libya afganistan syria ..

So I dont think anyone is willing to give USA that chance.. And the USA is also aware what will happen if they lose..

 

[hualushui]

 

[Feng Leng]

Vietnam for sure will join QUAD. Also will South Korea. China seriously needs to rethink its strategy in South China sea region.

I have yet to come across one country that is willing to absorb a Chinese nuclear strike on behalf of the United States (or Taiwan).

Even Japan isn't that stupid: Japan troops won’t get involved if China invades Taiwan, PM Yoshihide Suga says.

 

[bshifter]

Why horny idiots here always get multiple orgasm from these Asian Nato fetish articles? What ever happened to the only almighty super power with global power projection? You know the one with 800 military bases having China and Russia completely surrounded. Why does it need to ask help from a vassal state like Japan? Why does it need to beg India for god sake to fight this Asian giant? Why tell UK, France, Germany to sail all the way to the other side for a meaningless exercise? Wasn't the US touted as the strongest power on Earth? Why did the US ask Vietnam, a country the US chemically poisoned, bombed, set the people on fire for 20 years, for permission for hosting US military base with a missile defense shield?

No country in Asia is going to fight China for the sake of Taiwan, remember Japan refused to fight during the Korean War and it will refuse to fight on behalf of Taiwan. Even Vietnam flat out rejected the silly American idea of hosting American defense shield, that would literally mean the death of the country. It's going to be China vs US and in the event of a war, the US bases in South Korea and Japan will be pulverized without any doubt. Right now India is too busy doing all it can to stop being exterminated by the virus. The last thing on Modi's desperate mind is the QUAD. US must be very disappointed in Modi, i mean look at India how poorly it performed in fist fighting the PLA and as if Lord Shiva wanted to curse the Indians karma struck India with different Covid mutations leaving the nation in a state of emergency while Modi's deceitful eyes trying to tell everybody that he is in the position to save the world by mass producing vaccines. Modi made too many promises which he could not fulfill, he promised Trump he can handle China, he promised his citizens of economic prosperity that can rival China, he promised its domestic audience India has the capability to create a vaccine and the capacity to have everybody vaccinated. You could say America wasn't expecting a very sick man in his dream team but it is now stuck with this useless poor bastard.

America is weak, so weak that all the simulated war games have given the American leaders enormous headaches after witnessing the devastating results. Welcome to the 21st Century, welcome to the new world order.

 

[aziqbal]

Not to mention that Japan working with Royal Navy on the F35 + Ski Jump

all ready and loaded with weapons the UKs flagship the Queen Elizabeth Carrier is ready for deployment

its the first time UK has massed a full strength Carrier Strike Group in over 30 years with over 5000+ sailors and marines

it will have the worlds most advanced air defence destroyer the Type 45 DDG along with a Tide Class tanker and a Hunter Killer nuclear submarine the state of the art Astute Class SSN

and its headed straight for the South China Sea to transit the Taiwan straits

thats like a double dare to your enemy, you are showing them your neck and saying take your best shot if you have the guts

this summer should be interesting and Japan is also sending its Maya Class monster cruiser + RAN is joining

 

[Viva_Viet]

The onlyone who will fight for taiwan is USA.

The rest of the members just make up the numbers..

No USA. No Quad.

So you better pray that USA stay strong.

In a 2021 joint statement, "The Spirit of the Quad," Quad members described "a shared vision for a Free and Open Indo-Pacific," and a "rules-based maritime order in the East and South China Seas," which Quad members state are needed to counter Chinese maritime claims. The Quad pledged to respond to COVID-19,[7] and held a first Quad Plus meeting that included representatives from New Zealand, South Korea and Vietnam to work on its response to it.[7][8][9] Widely viewed as intending to curb "China's growing power," the Quad's joint statement drew criticism from China's foreign ministry, which said the Quad "openly incites discord" among regional powers in Asia.[10]

Quadrilateral Security Dialogue - Wikipedia

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Quad has Nothing to do with TW issues.

 

[Beast]

Taiwan has a government voted by the people, they are a independent country, they aren't a dictatorship like China.

Votes can be brought. Nothing new.

Hitler was also voted by democracy and election.

Not to mention that Japan working with Royal Navy on the F35 + Ski Jump

all ready and loaded with weapons the UKs flagship the Queen Elizabeth Carrier is ready for deployment

its the first time UK has massed a full strength Carrier Strike Group in over 30 years with over 5000+ sailors and marines

it will have the worlds most advanced air defence destroyer the Type 45 DDG along with a Tide Class tanker and a Hunter Killer nuclear submarine the state of the art Astute Class SSN

and its headed straight for the South China Sea to transit the Taiwan straits

thats like a double dare to your enemy, you are showing them your neck and saying take your best shot if you have the guts

this summer should be interesting and Japan is also sending its Maya Class monster cruiser + RAN is joining

Type 45 is nothing sophisticated. No dual band AESA. Uncomparable to China 055 Type 346B dual band radar. Nott to mention 112 vls silo per ship.

F-35 are very short legged and limited payload. If will need to break it's stealth to have a higher load. Not very useful in my opinion.